That isn’t necessary for your post to be dumb. The debate is about fat gain and health yes.
You separated weather a diet was “good” or “bad” from food quantity. You called a diet “good” when the primary debate point contends that the diet would increase the risk of heart disease. When in context surplus, fat gain, and heart disease risk would certainly need to be included in evaluating how “good” a diet was. [/quote]
Gaining body fat in itself has NOT been shown to increase the risk of heart disease.
We just went through that in this thread.
If you are claiming otherwise, you are making up “bro science” that is unsupported.
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Show some studies that support that gaining body fat does not increase the risk of disease. Pretty please[/quote]
We just had plenty in this thread NOT showing this. Read it again.
It would seem most posters here do seem to understand what was written.
You on the other hand seem to just be arguing because it is me.[/quote]
No there were no studies that showed gaining body fat does not in crease the risk for disease. In fact the opposite was shown. So I ask again please post studies supporting your hypothesis.
No there were no studies that showed gaining body fat does not in crease the risk for disease. In fact the opposite was shown. So I ask again please post studies supporting your hypothesis.
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It would actually be on you to provide proof that any fat gain at all increase the risk of heart disease.
After several posted studies…and I do believe I went through most of them posted in this thread, not one shows a direct relationship between heart disease and gains of any body fat at all.
There is a link between heart disease and OBESITY.
Gaining any body fat at all and OBESITY are not the same.
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
What we have learned so far:
Gaining fat makes you healthier
Fat gain doesn’t effect the risks of CVD
Gaining fat has NOTHING to do with a poor diet and insufficient exercise.
Everything that contradicts this isn’t even science.[/quote]
No offense, guy…but you look desperate lately in your postings here.
It isn’t a good look. It exposes how much you don’t really understand.
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
What we have learned so far:
Gaining fat makes you healthier
Fat gain doesn’t effect the risks of CVD
Gaining fat has NOTHING to do with a poor diet and insufficient exercise.
Everything that contradicts this isn’t even science.[/quote]
No offense, guy…but you look desperate lately in your postings here.
It isn’t a good look. It exposes how much you don’t really understand.[/quote]
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
What we have learned so far:
Gaining fat makes you healthier
Fat gain doesn’t effect the risks of CVD
Gaining fat has NOTHING to do with a poor diet and insufficient exercise.
Everything that contradicts this isn’t even science.[/quote]
No offense, guy…but you look desperate lately in your postings here.
It isn’t a good look. It exposes how much you don’t really understand.[/quote]
Do IT!
Smite him with your magic horn.
Make them understand the awesome power of glitter and sparkle.
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
What we have learned so far:
Gaining fat makes you healthier
Fat gain doesn’t effect the risks of CVD
Gaining fat has NOTHING to do with a poor diet and insufficient exercise.
Everything that contradicts this isn’t even science.[/quote]
No offense, guy…but you look desperate lately in your postings here.
It isn’t a good look. It exposes how much you don’t really understand.[/quote]
Why even address him here? You’ve been ignoring his request for a response to post he’s had to re-post probably a dozen times now?
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
What we have learned so far:
Gaining fat makes you healthier
Fat gain doesn’t effect the risks of CVD
Gaining fat has NOTHING to do with a poor diet and insufficient exercise.
Everything that contradicts this isn’t even science.[/quote]
No offense, guy…but you look desperate lately in your postings here.
It isn’t a good look. It exposes how much you don’t really understand.[/quote]
Looking desperate by posting things your lying ass has said in this thread?
You know what isn’t a good look?
You lying blatantly, making up a fake quotes and trying to use them to belittle people and then just ignoring it when called on it.
That’s not a good look.
Neither is 20+% bodyfat.
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
What we have learned so far:
Gaining fat makes you healthier
Fat gain doesn’t effect the risks of CVD
Gaining fat has NOTHING to do with a poor diet and insufficient exercise.
Everything that contradicts this isn’t even science.[/quote]
No offense, guy…but you look desperate lately in your postings here.
It isn’t a good look. It exposes how much you don’t really understand.[/quote]
Do IT!
Smite him with your magic horn.
Make them understand the awesome power of glitter and sparkle.
Gaining any body fat at all and OBESITY are not the same.[/quote]
Right. [/quote]
Certainly
Yet much confusion ensued insisting tiny changes in bf ‘must’ make a difference to cvd risk
Gaining any body fat at all and OBESITY are not the same.[/quote]
Right. [/quote]
Certainly
Yet much confusion ensued insisting tiny changes in bf ‘must’ make a difference to cvd risk
Gaining any body fat at all and OBESITY are not the same.[/quote]
Right. [/quote]
Certainly
Yet much confusion ensued insisting tiny changes in bf ‘must’ make a difference to cvd risk
[/quote]
Exactly.
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And forgetting that risk doesnt mean ‘certainty’ of onset.
Gaining any body fat at all and OBESITY are not the same.[/quote]
Right. [/quote]
Certainly
Yet much confusion ensued insisting tiny changes in bf ‘must’ make a difference to cvd risk
[/quote]
Exactly.
[/quote]
And forgetting that risk doesnt mean ‘certainty’ of onset. [/quote]
He’s a doctor of course he knows. But everyone’s else should remeber this as well. Seems obvious but hey ppl l Ike to justify being fat
Gaining any body fat at all and OBESITY are not the same.[/quote]
Right. [/quote]
Certainly
Yet much confusion ensued insisting tiny changes in bf ‘must’ make a difference to cvd risk
[/quote]
Yeah, of course tiny changes don’t do much. That’s not what we were speaking of. We were speaking of the condition of OVERWEIGHT, not tiny changes.
Gaining any body fat at all and OBESITY are not the same.[/quote]
Right. [/quote]
Certainly
Yet much confusion ensued insisting tiny changes in bf ‘must’ make a difference to cvd risk
[/quote]
Exactly.
[/quote]
And forgetting that risk doesnt mean ‘certainty’ of onset. [/quote]
He’s a doctor of course he knows. But everyone’s else should remeber this as well. Seems obvious but hey ppl l Ike to justify being fat
[/quote]
And he’s a genetic beast lobster.
Gaining any body fat at all and OBESITY are not the same.[/quote]
Right. [/quote]
Certainly
Yet much confusion ensued insisting tiny changes in bf ‘must’ make a difference to cvd risk
[/quote]
Yeah, of course tiny changes don’t do much. That’s not what we were speaking of. We were speaking of the condition of OVERWEIGHT, not tiny changes. [/quote]
Earlier in the thread there were assertions that losing a few % bf when already comfortably below obesity would lower cvd risk. That requires evidence but what evidence exists doesn’t support it, however much we may want to believe it
Now being overweight sure, and at one point we even discussed being muscular ‘overweight’ too for the possible extra load on the cv system
Gaining any body fat at all and OBESITY are not the same.[/quote]
Right. [/quote]
Certainly
Yet much confusion ensued insisting tiny changes in bf ‘must’ make a difference to cvd risk
[/quote]
Yeah, of course tiny changes don’t do much. That’s not what we were speaking of. We were speaking of the condition of OVERWEIGHT, not tiny changes. [/quote]
Earlier in the thread there were assertions that losing a few % bf when already comfortably below obesity would lower cvd risk. That requires evidence but what evidence exists doesn’t support it, however much we may want to believe it
Now being overweight sure, and at one point we even discussed being muscular ‘overweight’ too for the possible extra load on the cv system[/quote]
I highly doubt drug free induced muscle mass poses a health risk. But then again I don’t know everything.
Until I spoke with X on here, I never met a healthcare professional defending overweight or saying it poses no risk. But hey, I don’t know everything.
Gaining any body fat at all and OBESITY are not the same.[/quote]
Right. [/quote]
Certainly
Yet much confusion ensued insisting tiny changes in bf ‘must’ make a difference to cvd risk
[/quote]
Yeah, of course tiny changes don’t do much. That’s not what we were speaking of. We were speaking of the condition of OVERWEIGHT, not tiny changes. [/quote]
Earlier in the thread there were assertions that losing a few % bf when already comfortably below obesity would lower cvd risk. That requires evidence but what evidence exists doesn’t support it, however much we may want to believe it
Now being overweight sure, and at one point we even discussed being muscular ‘overweight’ too for the possible extra load on the cv system[/quote]
I highly doubt drug free induced muscle mass poses a health risk. But then again I don’t know everything.
Until I spoke with X on here, I never met a healthcare professional defending overweight or saying it poses no risk. But hey, I don’t know everything. [/quote]
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Dear Professor,
I have asked you kindly at least 10 times to show me where you got that quote from Brick.
You “quoted” him and used that to be a condescending dickhead to me in order to prove your point.
I have asked close to a dozen times where you got that quote from.
Are we to take your lack of a response to mean that you did in fact make that quote up?
Does this mean that you were blatantly lying in rest to further your argument and now that you were called on it your true colors of cowardice show?
No response, no ownership of your lying bullshit, nothing.
Is this the conclusion that we are left with?
With how many times you have shouted “your reading comprehension sucks”, “stop lying”, “address what was actually written” and all that I’m surprised that you didn’t take one bit of your own advice.
I am still waiting for a response but I won’t hold my breath.[/quote]