[quote]ZeusNathan wrote:
gsp has never really been in a close fight, besides his fight with bj…
we all know bj. he used to not care… but now he does? we will see.
so excited like a lil girl 
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Jon Fitch was a tougher fight imo.
But yea i completely forgot about lesnar/couture. I’m all amped up for BJ/GSP…like a little girl LOL, its ok I’m wearing pigtails too i’m giddy as fuck. First time i heard the fight was on I actually went “OMG OMG OMG…” then caught myself before anyone saw me.
[quote]Xen Nova wrote:
I think the round ends, BJ couldn’t finish GSP
GSP goes to the corner and asks greg jackson for advice… he looks at him dead in the eye and says
“Riddum. to. 11.”
Steve Mazzagatti looks at both fighters asks if they’re ready… GSP gives a nod, BJ gives a nod… Dana says “fuck lets fucking get to fuckin fightin the fuck all fuckin ready!”
before they walk to touch gloves time slows as gsp reaches the finger and thumb tips of both hands to his mouth, he exposes his tongue and wets them.
he reaches slowly to his nipples…
RIDDUM
TO
ELEVEN
!!!
Time catches up with his nearly invisible motion and it is on like motherfuckin donkey kong in a sarong smokin with cheech & chong.
BJ lazily moves forward, and throws a jab, GSP pats the jab down and superman punches with amazing speed he follows with a left inside leg kick and flying right knee that connects to the jaw of BJ crumpling him
cut to split screen of alves and huges
Hughes- “Heh smirk”
Alves- “aw shit…”
GSP takes advantage of the staggering BJ and goes for the suplex, he slips but is able to secure a takedown anyway. And goes for BJ’s back…securing not one, but both hooks… and my god he gets a body triangle.
announcers in background
Joe rogan: body triangle is the most secure way to lock an opponent down its like an anaconda and totally sucks the life right out of you
Goldie: Joe you say that everyfucking time
Joe: dude do u wanna hit this or not?
GSP is going for the REAR NAKED CHOKE!!!
Hughes: “I should show him how to defend that”
somewhere frank trigg’s ears are burning, and he raises a middle finger to the sky while mouthing the words “Fucking matt”
BJ no stranger to the RNC tucks his chin and pulls the infamous “home alone” strategy by putting both hands on his cheeks and preventing gsp from wrapping his arm around his throat.
BJ attempts to spin into GSP but ends up on his knees with GSP on his back still.
BJ tries to shake him off and oh my goodness
he’s successful
or is he
GSP transitions to the SWIM MOVE!
Joe rogan drops bong, it breaks and stands yelling “10th planet Motherfuckers!!” at the top of his lungs
GSP by Armbar, round 3, 1min 45sec.
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credit where it’s due… that shit was hilarious
i got bored trying to watch that whole BJ vid…
but here’s my .02
BJ got robbed in his fight with GSP. i honestly thought he should’ve got the decision…i think that had a lot to do with setting GSP with the title.
i’ve seen a lot of UFC fighters do more bodybuilding type workouts…Sherk and Franklin come to mind. obviously it’s not all they do, but part of their regimen.
Sherk is on those Brazilian injectvable vitamins though 
wait wait wait, aside from some random hammer curls (still can’t figure out why he does those) sherk’s training is like the antithesis of bodybuilding
[quote]FutureGL wrote:
wait wait wait, aside from some random hammer curls (still can’t figure out why he does those) sherk’s training is like the antithesis of bodybuilding[/quote]
Dont think that the little show sherk put on for all access is all he does in the weight room.
This like every one says is a slice of what goes on.
Sherk does or has done plenty of body building style workouts.
[quote]FutureGL wrote:
wait wait wait, aside from some random hammer curls (still can’t figure out why he does those) sherk’s training is like the antithesis of bodybuilding[/quote]
sherk says in his interviews
“i basically lift like a bodybuilder”
[quote]Xen Nova wrote:
ZeusNathan wrote:
gsp has never really been in a close fight, besides his fight with bj…
we all know bj. he used to not care… but now he does? we will see.
so excited like a lil girl
Jon Fitch was a tougher fight imo.
But yea i completely forgot about lesnar/couture. I’m all amped up for BJ/GSP…like a little girl LOL, its ok I’m wearing pigtails too i’m giddy as fuck. First time i heard the fight was on I actually went “OMG OMG OMG…” then caught myself before anyone saw me.[/quote]
puahahahaha
GO BJ!!!
…LESNAR!!!
Very much agree. The gym/weight room should be used to build strength, size (if you’re after that), power, speed, etc. The octagon/ring/field is where you teach your body to use those new attributes and apply them to your current skillset.
For example, you have a solid guard… you increase your squat, lunge, and Romanian deadlift numbers… you use time on the mat learning how to transfer that strength into an even better guard.
[quote]ZeusNathan wrote:
FutureGL wrote:
wait wait wait, aside from some random hammer curls (still can’t figure out why he does those) sherk’s training is like the antithesis of bodybuilding
sherk says in his interviews
“i basically lift like a bodybuilder”
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Last year, Sherk was profiled in Flex magazine.
http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding_strength/sean_sherk_in_aprils_flex_magazine
Consider the source (it may have been Flex-ified), but he said his schedule at the time was:
Monday and Thursday: Arms
Tuesday and Friday: Back and shoulders
Wednesday: Chest
Saturday: Legs
The thing about those training videos, is that you’re only seeing an uber-brief snapshot of a few exercises, a few reps at a time. In the last video Calilaw posted, with BJ’s 135 squat, maybe we were seeing reps 30-35 of an endurance set. Maybe he just did 50 burpees as a warm-up. It’s just too hard to accurately diagnose the “flaws” in someone’s training from such a relatively-out-of-context snippet.
Take the training videos as entertainment, possibly inspiration, but not necessarily a how-to, unless you’re seeing a 75-minute uninterrupted shot of a complete workout. And even then, it’s not in the full context of the training cycle, but it’s a bit more accurate.
[quote]kmcnyc wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Good analysis, Xen.
Everyone I’ve heard from who’s seen GSP in person says he’s hyoooge.
He used to train at Renzo Gracie’s and I have seen him in person here in NYC he is fucking hyuge.
I Love me some Baby Jesus Penn But GSP has just looked incredible
hoping that the fight lives up to the hype.
kmc[/quote]
The most impressive thing I ever saw GSP do was that trip he did of Hughes during their last fight. After I saw that, I thought, “Whoa.” Of course, he dominated in all the other areas too, but he out-wrestled the wrestler.
WELL! I know when I’m wrong! ahahaha. I guess I got a little taken with the whole caveman and rope pull training thing.
[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
kmcnyc wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Good analysis, Xen.
Everyone I’ve heard from who’s seen GSP in person says he’s hyoooge.
He used to train at Renzo Gracie’s and I have seen him in person here in NYC he is fucking hyuge.
I Love me some Baby Jesus Penn But GSP has just looked incredible
hoping that the fight lives up to the hype.
kmc
The most impressive thing I ever saw GSP do was that trip he did of Hughes during their last fight. After I saw that, I thought, “Whoa.” Of course, he dominated in all the other areas too, but he out-wrestled the wrestler. [/quote]
i guess you havent seen gsp against karo or koscheck
made those elite grapplers into amateurs
Penn’s S and C coaches should promptly be fired. If you compare penn’s strength training to gsp’s it’s pathetically obvious who is doing the right kind of training.
Everyone will be shocked when GSP becomes the first guy to dominate Penn.Honestly, I don’t think this fight should even be happening right now. Penn should be fighting the numerous contenders at 155 and GSP should be fighting Alves (who I think has the best shot out of anyone at beating him).
[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:
i got bored trying to watch that whole BJ vid…
but here’s my .02
BJ got robbed in his fight with GSP. i honestly thought he should’ve got the decision…i think that had a lot to do with setting GSP with the title.
i’ve seen a lot of UFC fighters do more bodybuilding type workouts…Sherk and Franklin come to mind. obviously it’s not all they do, but part of their regimen.[/quote]
It was a close fight, but GSP won. Penn won round one, and gsp won the next two rounds.
[quote]mmafan wrote:
Penn’s S and C coaches should promptly be fired. If you compare penn’s strength training to gsp’s it’s pathetically obvious who is doing the right kind of training.
Everyone will be shocked when GSP becomes the first guy to dominate Penn.Honestly, I don’t think this fight should even be happening right now. Penn should be fighting the numerous contenders at 155 and GSP should be fighting Alves (who I think has the best shot out of anyone at beating him).
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The problem is, Alves didn’t make weight against Hughes. They can’t just give Alves a title shot like that.
[quote]mmafan wrote:
Penn’s S and C coaches should promptly be fired. If you compare penn’s strength training to gsp’s it’s pathetically obvious who is doing the right kind of training.
Everyone will be shocked when GSP becomes the first guy to dominate Penn.Honestly, I don’t think this fight should even be happening right now. Penn should be fighting the numerous contenders at 155 and GSP should be fighting Alves (who I think has the best shot out of anyone at beating him).
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i concur that bj’s coaches are idiots… but how can u judge someones readiness by just that? millions of fighters train, ‘the right way’ but they still suck. many elite fighters, bj penn for example, train like that, and still rule the world.
be a fan, not a critic
How do you know?
What if Penn doesn’t have the joints for heavy lifting?
What if Penn hurt his back or tore his knee doing heavy lifting? If you train heavy, injuries are inevitable. Show me anyone who has “go heavy” for years and who hasn’t been sidelined with an injury. You can’t.
You do know that many training injuries that sideline fighters happen in the weight room, right?
And, of course, Sean Sherk got his ass handed to him by Penn.
According to your logic, Sherk should have won. Some “logic.”
If Penn loses, it will be because he should not have jumped into a higher weight class. Penn is not a natural welterweight. He’s a natural light weight. That will be the biggest difference in this fight.
What makes you qualified to make that statement?
Have you trained BJ Penn? Do you know his training history? His injury history? Do you know how heavy lifting affects his ability to train other areas of his game?
How many UFC champions have you trained?
How many UFC champions have your favorite S&C “gurus” trained?
Why do you think you know so much more than BJ Penn’s coaches?
CaliforniaLaw: How does machine shoulder presses in any way improve your fighting skill level? No mobility, just straight pushing. Do you ever replicate that movement in a match? Why not to military presses, pushpresses etc instead?
Thats the first thing that came to mind watching my video and i automatically judged his coach as a total idiot.
Why do you think a fighter lifts weights to improve his “fight skill level”? Fighting isn’t like Dungeons and Dragons, where you need to up your strength attribute.
Many lift simply to strengthen bones and ligaments. Some do it as a way to get a workout in when they are otherwise not up to a skills-training session. There are many reasons.
Fact is, BJ Penn is a champ and has hung with the best. The presumption should be that we have something to learn from him.
Answer me this: Why did Sherk lose to BJ Penn?