Bob is in serious need of a bulk.
This is way too skinny! Someone please feed him!
He obviously is more concerned about fat loss than muscle gain.
Bob is in serious need of a bulk.
[quote]Christine wrote:
Bob is in serious need of a bulk.
This is way too skinny! Someone please feed him!
He obviously is more concerned about fat loss than muscle gain.[/quote]
That’s what I was thinking. He looks more and more like a greyhound with every season. Maybe the contestants are stealing his lunch.
[quote]RWElder0 wrote:
I think it is awesome that these people want to change. Be careful what you wish for. One of the extreme home makeover families in Georgia recently went into foreclosure on the ‘Charity House’ the network built for them.
Turns out the furniture was free but the mortgage and taxes were not. They helped (I am not saying caused) a family to go bankrupt.
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That family later took out a mortgage on the house to finance a new business. They then defaulted on this mortgage. There was no original mortgage. It really was a gift from the show, all they originally had to pay was the taxes.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
They are also experiencing huge losses in LBM, at the same time.
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How do we know this? And even if they did lose it slowly, how much lbm would they still be losing? Again, maintaining lbm is very low on these people’s priority list. They are not trying to come out of it with 200 lbs of solid muscle. The goal is too simply get to a healthy weight.
Why not? You think losing 2-4 lbs a week when you weigh 400 plus pounds is going to give much of a final result for these people. Just to lose 200 lbs would take almost 2 years. Are they more likely to stick with it if they do an extreme diet that yields fast results, or with a moderate diet that takes years?
The healthiest thing they can do is get back to a respectable weight, and I think whatever gives them the highest probability to get there, within reason, is indeed the healthiest way to permanently change their lifestyle.
There is no gaurantee either way that the weight is going to stay off, but the quick results will be very motivating to get there. Once they get down to a respectable weight they can easily transition into a lifelong diet plan, should they be motivated enough to do it.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
This show does a good job of showing people that busting ass in the gym and in the kitchen can lead to incredible results. But it fails to show a REALISTIC approach to their goals, and what is maintainable.
Who can tolerate 4-6 hrs of training in a gym for the rest of their lives? People work, have lives, and families, and not showing them how to maintain a doable exercise program just sets up for rebound fat gain.[/quote]
For those of you who didn’t watch the premier, they sent one person home from each couple except for two (the team with immunity and the team that won the weigh in). They get to rejoin their partner after 30 days if their partner hasn’t gotten voted off of the show by then.
I think this is an attempt by the producers (or whomever it may be) to show people that they can see results at home…I just wonder if these people will be able to deliver.
I watch the show with my family and it will be interesting to see what the returning partners look like after 30 days not on the show, compared to their partner.
Also, on the bf% issue, what about a DEXA scan? Although I’m not sure they would fit on the scanning table and under the scanning arm. I’ve had one done, but I don’t think these people would fit. Huge piles of redundant protoplasm…
I didn’t get to see the end so I was wondering what was gonna happen with the ones getting sent home. I couldn’t imagine they were truly elimnating that many people in the first show. That would make for a pretty short season.
http://www.freep.com/article/20090108/ENT03/901080369
It looks like one of the contestants who was sent home was arrested.
Mug shot above.
[quote]Christine wrote:
http://www.freep.com/article/20090108/ENT03/901080369
It looks like one of the contestants who was sent home was arrested.
Mug shot above.[/quote]
HAHA that is some funny shit
[quote]crimson_lily wrote:
MaximusB wrote:
This show does a good job of showing people that busting ass in the gym and in the kitchen can lead to incredible results. But it fails to show a REALISTIC approach to their goals, and what is maintainable.
Who can tolerate 4-6 hrs of training in a gym for the rest of their lives? People work, have lives, and families, and not showing them how to maintain a doable exercise program just sets up for rebound fat gain.
For those of you who didn’t watch the premier, they sent one person home from each couple except for two (the team with immunity and the team that won the weigh in). They get to rejoin their partner after 30 days if their partner hasn’t gotten voted off of the show by then.
I think this is an attempt by the producers (or whomever it may be) to show people that they can see results at home…I just wonder if these people will be able to deliver.
I watch the show with my family and it will be interesting to see what the returning partners look like after 30 days not on the show, compared to their partner.
Also, on the bf% issue, what about a DEXA scan? Although I’m not sure they would fit on the scanning table and under the scanning arm. I’ve had one done, but I don’t think these people would fit. Huge piles of redundant protoplasm…
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Sending them home right away was stupid, because they have only been there for 1 week and haven’t learned shit. 1 week is nowhere near long enough to break the bad habits they have developed over the years. It wouldn’t surprise me if some of them come back even bigger than when they first arrived.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
sdjohn67 wrote:
i find it inspirational but i also watch a show about obese people (500 lbs +) at a special hospital to lose weight or die. i think it’s just to scare myself as a kind of this-can-happen-if-you-don’t-watch-out motivation. the people this season of BL are that large; scary like someone may explode or something horrible like that.
Dude, if “this can happen to you”, you need to seriously take a closer look at how you eat. I don’t have any fear at all of somehow accidentally weighing 500+lbs.
Have you been heavier like that? If not, why the fear?[/quote]
okay. the avatar is from ghost in the shell, the second release. i liked the relationship the guy had with his dog. i’m a girl. i’m 5’3 so i don’t have leeway with weight. i am slim according to everyone i know. i just feel the weight if it is more than ten pounds extra. have always freaked whenever i gained more than ten pounds thinking i was slipping down that slope because so many people in my family have a weight issue.
they think it’s natural to be large after life starts to happen. family and friends have always treated me like i was a kook for maintaining and gasp working out – with weights! eek! in high school my mom tentatively approached me about a possible eating disorder.
i was in weight training and yoga. crazy, i know. i have heard everything…girls are supposed to be soft! are you crazy? oh my god you’re disappearing! about a week ago. i am not. what happened to your ass? you lost your ass. that was true a few years ago.
another story. luckily, over the past year i have learned how to keep my ass while losing fat and gaining more muscle all over. my sister was born large and still is. my mom never got the whole mind body cause and effect connection…it still feels like a personal mania to me even though i know they’re wrong.
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
Christine wrote:
Bob is in serious need of a bulk.
This is way too skinny! Someone please feed him!
He obviously is more concerned about fat loss than muscle gain.
That’s what I was thinking. He looks more and more like a greyhound with every season. Maybe the contestants are stealing his lunch.[/quote]
his attitude is more and more feral too. he growls snaps and snarls at them in the weight room. sadist. LOL
[quote]sdjohn67 wrote:
luckily, over the past year i have learned how to keep my ass while losing fat and gaining more muscle all over.
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Pics ?? Please?
I noticed last season that Jillian spent a lot of time hammering her people with questions. Last night I caught her asking Laura “Why are you fat?” over and over until the girl burst into tears. My suspicion is that Jillian uses a sort of tough love mental therapy on them while pushing them past their physical limits in order to break them down. It’s similar to what the military does.
I agree that Bob is too thin, but I think Jillian looks fine. She is fit and seems to have plenty of body mass for her frame. If you look close you can see she has a very small bone structure.
I feel like Jillian is much tougher on the contestants than Bob is. She’s always yelling at them and crap, while Bob’s off taking them on nature walks and doing yoga. All the people that can’t deal with Jillian yelling at them choose Bob if they have the opportunity. The ones who really want to get pushed to their limit choose Jillian.
On Larry King tonight they have the winners and the trainers for the Biggest Loser. The one winner, Eric, has put on more than half of the 214lbs he lost. The two women have it off but they just won.
I don’t know it just seems crazy for me that a person loses 214lbs and gains it back. He must just feel terrible.
[quote]chrisarmes wrote:
don’t forget too. for some of those people on that show, the only workout they’ve had in years is the KFC Curl. you get them actually moving around, with proper nutrition, and there initial loss could be pretty spectacular. Also, at 400+ lbs, 20lbs lost isn’t as much as it is for a normal sized person [/quote]
Yep. Also most of the f*ckers on that show are so horrendously obese that they burn a massive amount of calories just at rest, let alone walking on the treadmill. Then you have Gillian screaming at them twice a day doing death circuits, plus their diet is sorted out for them.
It does piss me off sometimes though that some guy might get cut because he only lost 7 pounds in a week…someone else might lose 8, but the first guy may have built more muscle.
I just went to their homepage for a look. A 450 pound 19 year old? How is that possible? A 380 pound WOMAN? That’s bigger than the Fridge was, as big as some of the top sumo wrestlers. I heard some of these fatties eat 20-30 000 calories a day.
[quote]deanosumo wrote:
I just went to their homepage for a look. A 450 pound 19 year old? How is that possible? A 380 pound WOMAN? That’s bigger than the Fridge was, as big as some of the top sumo wrestlers. I heard some of these fatties eat 20-30 000 calories a day.[/quote]
…which takes a shit load of effort so I have little tolerance for the pity parties that get thrown because someone is so fat they can’t walk. No one accidentally eats 20,000cals a day. It isn’t like you start watching a movie with a bucket of…whoppers…and then after the movie is over discover that all 18 of them disappeared during the action sequences.
I hate the mentality these land whales have. Recently I was carrying some boxes in an apartment complex and was waiting for the elevator to arrive at my floor.
A land whale arrives at the same elevator with a cart that the building provides as a courtesy for moving and such. As we wait, the whale tells me she is done with the cart and that I can use it. I say thank you but no. She insists, and says why make it any harder than it needs to be. Her mantra was, make it as easy as possible.
I thought, fuck no, because I like the hard, and the hard makes it great. Because when its easy, you look like a land whale. She shook her head in disbelief as I carried these boxes to the downstairs parking garage, saying its not healthy to over-exert myself. I nearly choked at that point.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
deanosumo wrote:
I just went to their homepage for a look. A 450 pound 19 year old? How is that possible? A 380 pound WOMAN? That’s bigger than the Fridge was, as big as some of the top sumo wrestlers. I heard some of these fatties eat 20-30 000 calories a day.
…which takes a shit load of effort so I have little tolerance for the pity parties that get thrown because someone is so fat they can’t walk. No one accidentally eats 20,000cals a day. It isn’t like you start watching a movie with a bucket of…whoppers…and then after the movie is over discover that all 18 of them disappeared during the action sequences.[/quote]
That was funny!!!
jpb