OK, so quick story, and then I’ll hopefully be out for the day.
I used to attend Alcoholics Anonymous. I did this for about 2 years in my early 20’s. Had a real problem with drugs and alcohol, something I’ve discussed from time to time on these forums. In AA, members recite the serenity prayer at every meeting. The serenity prayer goes like this (and it’s slightly modified from the original version for AA purposes):
God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
and the Wisdom to know the difference
This is something that I took to heart in those 2 years. Probably the most important lesson I learned during my time with AA. You, sir, need to come to terms with the first line of the prayer. If you can do that, and it turns out this IS a thing you can change (I still assure you it is), then your problem can be solved as soon as you are ready for it to be. That’s the best advice I can give you.
There reason for the circle is that some people say yeah ofc you can “fix” it no problem and there are people who say nah you won’t be able to change that.
[quote=“marcane, post:124, topic:224740”]
Would love to see relavant pictures if you have, might convince me[/quote]
Back in December, Kd posted a pic of where he started with a bony physique. In January, Flip posted a pic of where he started with a bony physique. Back in December, I posted a pic of a bodybuilder who started with a bony physique. Nothing is going to convince you.
I’m pretty sure the 20 or so people who’ve replied here have basically been saying the same thing for the last 2 months. You got the advice, you just refuse to accept or believe the advice.
Okay, now this bullshit makes you sound like a troll. Not stupid, not stubborn, just a lameass troll. Like, you cannot be serious.
Really, if I could’ve locked this thread after Flip’s last reply, I would’ve. Oh, wait…
I even posted the picture in THIS THREAD!!! lol. My guess is the angle kept him from seeing if my clavicles resembled his… I guess it’s up for debate as to whether or not our clavicles are similar. But what you CAN clearly see is that the size of my delts changed tremendously, and that my overall structure appears substantially different from my starting point.
If your delts reach this level of development, I can guarantee you will not have a clavicle problem. I still maintain that you need to prioritize getting your head right, but I think this is proof enough. Can you actually picture developing your delts to this point and still having this issue? If I had bony clavicles prior, I think it’s pretty clear that my muscle mass would currently cover that up.
At the risk of legitimizing the OP’s concerns, I’ll say this…
I can see how it would be hard to internalize the idea of looking like an entirely different person in 5-10 years from weightlifting. And it’s easy to fixate on really ridiculous things. I remember when I was in my first couple years of lifitng, I had concerns about things like developing my outer bicep head/brachialis, and I was doing exercises that I thought promoted the ‘horseshoe tricep’ look. I was 140-150 lbs. I had no business thinking along those lines, but that’s what we do. ‘Just get bigger everywhere’ is how we should think, but often don’t. It’s amazing how much I continue to simplify my programming. None of those things are concerns anymore, because over time, I’ve seen that what REALLY works is just packing on as much muscle as I can across all the major muscle groups, and things work themselves out. Symmetry just tends to happen. Flaws disappear. Those ‘structural problems’ that we all think we have become vague memories.
Those are barely bony physiques, nothing compared to mine.Kd’s picture is somewhat similar in the left shoulder which gives me hope. People have been saying that yes but what have they used to it back up? People don’t understand how it feels when it doesn’t affect themselves.
This is a bony physique similar to mine but a little further:
A small clavicle protrution near the sc joint is not a bony phyisque, I don’t think you have understood where the problems lies. How no one can see my concern why I feel this way is still a mystery to me which is also why I question the legitimacy of your answers. Who do you trust the most, a person who has gone through the same thing as you or someone claiming to be an expert at something they have never experienced? I thought I could reach out to a forum like this as there had to be someone who had experienced the same concerns and eventually found a way. You are clearly not one of them.
My bones are fucked up and Its clearly making me very sad. How some of you can laugh like I am some kind of psycho is just beyond me. I guess it brings light to people’s depressing lives.
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I thought I could reach out to a forum like this as there had to be someone who had experienced the same concerns and eventually found a way. You are clearly not one of them.[/quote]
That’s cute. I’ve said a few times over the years here that I was 6’2" and a skinny 170 in high school, and started lifting when three different people called me “lanky” in a two week timespan. But, sure, keep thinking you’re the boniest boner who ever needed deboning.
Quick question: In the 5 and a half weeks since you started this thread, what have your workouts looked like - the exercises, sets, and reps - and how much bodyweight have you gained?
A Carrie-like climax with a cameo from John Travolta along with split screens and Italian giallo flick lighting where he massacres the entire cinema with his killer clavicles.
A prologue to a serial killer film where the cinema is closed after he massacres the entire audience with his killer clavicles, disappears and becomes an urban legend. Several years later, a couple of dumb teens decide to sneak in, find the projector working and get offed by Mr Clavicles(who never left the cinema) in pairs while making out with My Bloody Valentine playing on the screen.
An origin story where the shock of his lover’s death by clavicle unleashes some kind of dormant super clavicular powers that only a comic book nerd can come up with and he becomes the next Super Villain and spends the rest of the movie looking for Bruce Wills.
