Big Guys- What Do Your Diets Look Like?

Diet and Nutrition
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[quote]mazilla wrote:
pja wrote:
El_Animal wrote:
You don’t have to give a sample day (unless you want to) but what are your macros and calories like if you weigh over say, 240?

Don’t take this the wrong way but from what I see from your posts is someone who is making things more difficult than they should be for a 140lb 17 year old. In all honesty at your age websites like this are probably more harmful than they are helpful. Just my opinion…take it for what it’s worth…oh and I hope you are eating when you are reading this…and studying…calculus.

i disagree. the only part of this site that would pose any potential threat to this young mans health would be the parts pertaining to “gear”. other than that what does he have to fear? proper nutrition, workout habits, supplement info?

on the other hand it is never too early to learn how to properly maintain your body. you have got to start some time. at 27 he could be a ten year vet. that would put him ahead of most. use this time to absorb info. don’t f with the anabolics, stay natural unyil you are ready(if ever). my 2 cents.
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By harmful I meant harmful to his bodybuilding future…hell the kid has been posting a food log where he claims to be eating 3500 hundred calories a day yet he’s put on about 2 lbs in 3 months…something isn’t right

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[quote]mazilla wrote:
pja wrote:
El_Animal wrote:
You don’t have to give a sample day (unless you want to) but what are your macros and calories like if you weigh over say, 240?

Don’t take this the wrong way but from what I see from your posts is someone who is making things more difficult than they should be for a 140lb 17 year old. In all honesty at your age websites like this are probably more harmful than they are helpful. Just my opinion…take it for what it’s worth…oh and I hope you are eating when you are reading this…and studying…calculus.

i disagree. the only part of this site that would pose any potential threat to this young mans health would be the parts pertaining to “gear”. other than that what does he have to fear? proper nutrition, workout habits, supplement info?

on the other hand it is never too early to learn how to properly maintain your body. you have got to start some time. at 27 he could be a ten year vet. that would put him ahead of most. use this time to absorb info. don’t f with the anabolics, stay natural unyil you are ready(if ever). my 2 cents.
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I think pja is just saying that Animal is putting way too much thought into things. Nothing wrong with learning the right way to eat / lift / etc., but there comes to a point where it’s overkill and you’re putting more effort into thinking / planning about eating / lifting than you are actually eating / lifting.

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Currently 5’8 @ 210 … decent bodyfat %

Breakfast : 400 grams muesli, 5 scoops of protein powder, skim milk
(it was just very recently that I weighed my muesli and came to the conclusion that this breakfast should round up to 260 grams of carbs … odd)

150 grams turkey breast, hand and a half of mixed nuts, vegetables

Omelet … 4 eggs, 150 grams of ham, 1 slice of cheese, mixed vegetables

Some type of fish … mixed with Steak&Grill Barbecue sauce and olive oil, and a can of legumes
Some fruit

Training

Gatorade
Protein shake

Package of rice, 300 grams turkey breast, can of sugared fruit mix

Perhaps some beef, or otherwise something with eggs and cheese, maybe another omelet

This is “mostly” how I eat … it may vary, when I’m on the road or in class I eat more turkey breast and mixed nuts, and during weekends I eat a lot of crap like pizza, cookies and ice cream.

I do note though, that I have an extremely fast metabolism, on the condition that I do any type of exercise. When I sit on my ass all day doing nothing, I get puffy eating like usual.(who doesn’t ?)
If I train, I can get away with a lot.

I also note, while to some this may seem like a lot, these are actually not very calorie-dense foods, and it’s mostly food volume.

When I’m trying to gain more muscle(currently I’m maintaining due to exams and injuries), I eat more carbs during the day, and more pasta.

I also like to eat coconut meat during the day, for personal preferences.

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My diet seems to be very comparable to what a lot of these bigger guys are eating and I’m only 180lbs, 11% BF.

My looks a bit like this

Pro 260g = 1040 cals (40%)
Carbs 210g = 840 cals (32%)
Fat 80g = 720 cals (28%)

Give, or take here and there obviously. Protein on most days is probably quite a bit higher.

A basic day of eating looks like this:

Breakfast: (7am)
4 whole eggs
2 pieces toast
Slice of ham
1 glass OJ
Tribulus

Snack: (10am)
Protein shake 25g
small bag of trail mix (peanuts, raisens, dried fruit)
Plum
Multi Vitamin, extra E, C, B’s, Salmon Oil

Lunch: (12pm)
Chicken, steak, or pork chop (Whatever I cooked extra of for dinner the night before)
Vegies
Glass of milk

Snack: (2pm)
Protein shake

Home from school snack: (4pm)
1 Oatmeal

Preworkout: (5pm)
Protein shake
Ephedra
Cafffeine
Kre-alkalyn

During workout:
Branched chain aminos

Postworkout: (6:30pm)
Protein shake
Glutamine
Taurine
Berry Splash

30mins later: (7pm)
Sphegettii with ground beef
2 peices of whole wheat bread
1 glass of milk

1hr later: (8pm)
Protein Shake
Multi vitamin
Salmon Oil

Dinner: (9:30pm)
Chicken, steak, or pork chops
vegies
1 galss of milk

Snack: (10pm)
Green Tea
Fiber Cookies

Before bed: (11pm)
Cottage cheese, or casein shake w/ milk

I have a list of allowable snacks if something comes up. Things like:

Egg salad sandwiches
Flavoured tuna
Chilli (canned)

I guess I just have a fast metabolism!

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When I hit 222.5 I was eating 5 meals a day, 900 calories each. Every meal had 30-40 grams of protein or more.

My normal meals would be 10-20% fat, the rest carbs.

A typical meal would be two packages of brown rice from trader joe’s (600 calories), protein from chicken or tuna or eggs totaling around 200 calories, then another 100 calories from nuts (almonds or walnuts normally).

I ate a lot of rice, bread and oatmeal.

Post workout I’d have some simple sugars and keep the meal low in fat.

Sample post-workout meal:
quart of non-fat milk
3 bananas
2 granola bars, 900 calories

I started at 5 x 600 calorie meals. When the food was not enough (I was craving food, had to eat more to quiet my stomach) I upped it to 5 x 700, then 5 x 800, then 3 x 800 and 2 x 900, finally 5 x 900.

Pretty simple.

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[quote]pja wrote:

Don’t take this the wrong way but from what I see from your posts is someone who is making things more difficult than they should be for a 140lb 17 year old. In all honesty at your age websites like this are probably more harmful than they are helpful. Just my opinion…take it for what it’s worth…oh and I hope you are eating when you are reading this…and studying…calculus.[/quote]

???

How am I making things more complicated than they need to be? I was just looking for a little entertainment. I always ee these cutting diets. I wanted to see a full on bulk diet. What’s wrong with that? It’s not like I’m going to start eating like a 240lb guy and get fat…

And I’m 159lbs now :slight_smile:

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[quote]pja wrote:
By harmful I meant harmful to his bodybuilding future…hell the kid has been posting a food log where he claims to be eating 3500 hundred calories a day yet he’s put on about 2 lbs in 3 months…something isn’t right[/quote]

Wow you really did research my posts. Yes, I am having a hard time putting on weight. It’s mostly due to the fact that I can’t seem to stay out of the gym. When I learned that you couldn’t recover from lifting 6 times a week I was bummed. I loved being in the gym. Then I thought (stupidly) “Hey, I can do cardio on the off days and stay lean while getting HEEEYOOGE” (OK maybe it wasn’t like that but you get the idea).

So, that’s what I did it it competely killed my gains. I’ve been cutting down and it’s been helping but I’m startng to think I need to do ZERO cardio to gain anything.

I’m done trying to explain myself.

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If your having trouble gaining weight, counting calories may be part of the problem. I started my bulking cycle 20yrs ago. I was 15yo, 150# at 6’4". I’m now at 6’6" and 270#.

I’d like to give you my diet, but I don’t know what it is. I bring my lunch in a grocery bag. I eat 6 times a day, drink lots of water, avoid simple sugars (no pop, chips, doughnuts…), but otherwise eat everything I can find. I should probably start counting calories now (I can’t see my abs, but they’re close to the surface.)

If I had been counting calories when I was younger, I’d probably still be 5% bf and skinny & weak!

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[quote]jgold wrote:
If your having trouble gaining weight, counting calories may be part of the problem. I started my bulking cycle 20yrs ago. I was 15yo, 150# at 6’4". I’m now at 6’6" and 270#.

I’d like to give you my diet, but I don’t know what it is. I bring my lunch in a grocery bag. I eat 6 times a day, drink lots of water, avoid simple sugars (no pop, chips, doughnuts…), but otherwise eat everything I can find. I should probably start counting calories now (I can’t see my abs, but they’re close to the surface.)

If I had been counting calories when I was younger, I’d probably still be 5% bf and skinny & weak![/quote]

I know what you mean. i didn’t use to count calories. But ever since I ahve I’ve actually learned a lot. I personally don’t think that’s what’s holding me back. I do understand where your coming from though.

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[quote]El_Animal wrote:
pja wrote:
By harmful I meant harmful to his bodybuilding future…hell the kid has been posting a food log where he claims to be eating 3500 hundred calories a day yet he’s put on about 2 lbs in 3 months…something isn’t right

Wow you really did research my posts. Yes, I am having a hard time putting on weight. It’s mostly due to the fact that I can’t seem to stay out of the gym.

When I learned that you couldn’t recover from lifting 6 times a week I was bummed. I loved being in the gym. Then I thought (stupidly) “Hey, I can do cardio on the off days and stay lean while getting HEEEYOOGE” (OK maybe it wasn’t like that but you get the idea).

So, that’s what I did it it competely killed my gains. I’ve been cutting down and it’s been helping but I’m startng to think I need to do ZERO cardio to gain anything.

I’m done trying to explain myself.
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Remember your goal is to gain muscle right?

Ditch the cardio and any other things (playing basketball or whatever) and focus on gaining muscle if that’s your goal.

I was surfing and training jiu-jitsu 2-3 days a week each before I started bulking, went from 205-222.5 in a few months. I did no cardio, and went to bjj or surfed once a week or less.

Before that I was 195 and cutting down on running (3 days a week on top of my bjj and surfing) helped with the weight gain.

And before that I was 185 and cutting down on surfing (6 days a week at that time), eating more and lifting heavy helped me get to 195.

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6 FEET 4 249 POUNDS

Breakfast

3 mini Bread rolls with butter
1 glass Cordial,OJ

morning tea
Hot chicken and gravy roll

Lunch
1 sandwich with meat of some sort

Afternoon tea
2 muesli bars

WORKOUT
heavy 2 bodyparts a day 6-8 sets each

dinner
Taco’s,steak,chicken,fish,Fast food of some description

Before bed
cordial with liquid zinc and phissilum husk

Now i know u will look at this and flame the shit out of me but im happy with this and i look and feel happy.People see me eating and say how the fuck are u soo big wen my little sister eats more than u.All this and i have a fast metabolism :confused:

Peace

HHH

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[quote]El_Animal wrote:

???

How am I making things more complicated than they need to be? I was just looking for a little entertainment. I always ee these cutting diets. I wanted to see a full on bulk diet. What’s wrong with that? It’s not like I’m going to start eating like a 240lb guy and get fat…

And I’m 159lbs now :slight_smile:
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If you are looking for some bulking entertainment allow me to share my Massive Eating experience:

4 years ago I finished my senior year of football at 198 lbs (I started it at 215 but separated my shoulder midway through the season. I played through the pain but stopped lifting). I was being recruited by a few D-1aa and D-2 programs to play DE and almost all said I needed to weigh about 230-240 before the season started.

Using Ian King and Coach Davies workouts and following Massive Eating I got up to 235 in just over four months. I was eating a little over 5,000 clean calories with little problems. There was fat gain but I like to think the majority was muscle (with most of the weight was in my legs).

Unfortunately by the end of March it was clear that I wasn?t getting the amount of scholarship money I wanted so I switched my focus to D-1aa state school that was cheaper in tuition. Ironically this was the only school that recruited me as an o-lineman, they asked me to report to camp at 270.

After gaining a good 25-30 pounds of bulking they wanted me to gain another 25-30 pounds, this was a devastating thing to hear.

At this point I upped the calories even more with Massive Eating, approaching a peak of 6,500 of relatively clean calories. It SUCKED! I was force feeding myself over 1,000 calories in every meal.

The bulk of my calories came from eating eggs, rolled oats, mixed nuts, mozzarella cheese, fat free yogurt, but mostly pasta. Twice a day every day I would force myself to eat 12-14 oz of pasta (could never reach the 16 oz mark without feeling like I was dying), with 1 cup of chucky sauce, and 2 serving of grilled chicken, I think there was 1,500 calories in this meal with over 350 carbs. What a horrible experience it was eating this meal.

I reported to football camp 265, fat and out of shape. Truthfully I was in shape (well considering I was an O-lineman) since I was following Davies? programs at this time, but I definitely fat. I peaked out at a weight of 275 lbs during the winter of my freshman year gaining about 70 pounds in a little over a year.

After being out of breath from climbing stairs and sweating from peeling an orange I decided enough was enough. The next three years of football I maintained a weight of 245-255 as an offensive tackle, I held my own for the most part starting my last two season and only giving up two sacks my senior year. I did however take a lot of insults for being an ?anorexic? offensive lineman from my coaches and teammates.

The Take Home Lessons: 1) Massive Eating works however to prevent getting fat don?t be overly aggressive with it and give yourself an adequate time frame to gain the weight (70 pounds in 1 year is the dumbest thing I have ever done to my body, and I have the stretch marks to remind me to be more conservative.).

  1. If you want to gain weight fast, training legs twice a week (via Hip and Quad dominant days) is quickest way.

I know someone will point out that we clearly have different metabolisms, since I am able to gain weight fairly easy however it does not take away from the effectiveness of Massive Eating and the potential for weight gain by training the posterior chain.

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Holy crap. Now that is some hardcore eating my friend.

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http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=851149&pageNo=0#851196

A sample diet for getting big (and fat).

By Dr. JB

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[quote]victor lustig wrote:
http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=851149&pageNo=0#851196

A sample diet for getting big (and fat).

By Dr. JB[/quote]

Holy shit! I’d never thought I’d see a diet like that from JB! Insane!

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He seemed to think I was gonna try it, cos he quipped some stuff about praying for my guts at the end. I would do, but I don’t like bagels and peanut butter.

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[quote]victor lustig wrote:
I would do, but I don’t like bagels and peanut butter.[/quote]

And I don’t like oatmeal, but I eat the shit every morning.

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[quote]BigPaul wrote:
victor lustig wrote:
I would do, but I don’t like bagels and peanut butter.

And I don’t like oatmeal, but I eat the shit every morning.[/quote]

Yeah really victor, be a man and get fat already.

I was eating a bagel with peanut butter in the morning with my omelet. Then I realised I was retarded.

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[quote]BigPaul wrote:
victor lustig wrote:
I would do, but I don’t like bagels and peanut butter.

And I don’t like oatmeal, but I eat the shit every morning.[/quote]

Man oatmeal is a pleasure to eat with a big ole scoop of Grow!.

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I fucking love oatmeal.