[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
Joe DeFranco practicing what he preaches by completing 22 reps with 105lb. dumbbells on the stability ball bench press. [/quote]
Wow. Thats very impresive. I find it to be, at least.
[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
Joe DeFranco practicing what he preaches by completing 22 reps with 105lb. dumbbells on the stability ball bench press. [/quote]
Thankyou for that.
[quote]CHEKonIT wrote:
And I bet he has very healthy shoulders, too![/quote]
I think I read somewhere that he had a shoulder op a couple of years back.
Probably unrelated but you might like to know that, before everyone jumps on your back about that comment.
[quote]kheaslim wrote:
Wow. Thats very impresive. I find it to be, at least.[/quote]
Yep, very impressive. I wonder how many of those “it can’t be done” posters will write back with the same or choose to ignore it…
[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
Joe DeFranco practicing what he preaches by completing 22 reps with 105lb. dumbbells on the stability ball bench press. [/quote]
Ah, to think that he did 22 reps on 47kgs and Prof X didn’t believe me that Rugby guys were doing 60kg in Australia.
Maybe he doesn’t know everything about the Iron Game.
[quote]CHEKonIT wrote:
Yep, very impressive. I wonder how many of those “it can’t be done” posters will write back with the same or choose to ignore it…[/quote]
Of course they’ll ignore it. They close their minds to anything outside the bodybuilding square.
They are long gone. Perhaps we should put that picture in the physique and performance photos section.
Rumour has it though, Kratos was seen trying out a Swiss ball press at his local gym the other evening. Similar to Shooter McGavin trying Happy Gilmore’s swing out in the woods hoping nobody would see.
Here are DeFranco’s thoughts on the swiss ball:
JD: Yes, I like the Swiss ball for certain exercises during certain times of the year. The problem with the Swiss ball is most trainers overuse it. It becomes counterproductive when it?s overused because you can actually get weaker! This is because even though your stabilizers are activated, your prime movers are never overloaded due to the decreased loads you must use in Swiss ball exercises.
I like using the Swiss ball for high-rep dumbbell work, implemented in two to four week mini-cycles in a program. This is a great way to add muscle mass, address muscular imbalances, strengthen weaker stabilizing muscles, and it acts as restoration. After a few weeks I’d move on to more traditional exercises. I also like performing ab work on the Swiss ball due to the pre-stretch it provides during the eccentric contraction.
See that? It can make you WEAKER.
And 22 reps with 105 is impressive, but it’s still more dangerous than flat or inclined presses. 105 obviously isn’t that heavy for Joe. They would be for me. I can only do about 12 reps with them, on a flat bench. I think I’ll take DeFranco’s word over Chek’s, any day of the week. And HE still bench presses.
[quote]Kratos wrote:
Here are DeFranco’s thoughts on the swiss ball:
JD: Yes, I like the Swiss ball for certain exercises during certain times of the year. The problem with the Swiss ball is most trainers overuse it. It becomes counterproductive when it?s overused because you can actually get weaker! This is because even though your stabilizers are activated, your prime movers are never overloaded due to the decreased loads you must use in Swiss ball exercises.
I like using the Swiss ball for high-rep dumbbell work, implemented in two to four week mini-cycles in a program. This is a great way to add muscle mass, address muscular imbalances, strengthen weaker stabilizing muscles, and it acts as restoration. After a few weeks I’d move on to more traditional exercises. I also like performing ab work on the Swiss ball due to the pre-stretch it provides during the eccentric contraction.
See that? It can make you WEAKER.
And 22 reps with 105 is impressive, but it’s still more dangerous than flat or inclined presses. 105 obviously isn’t that heavy for Joe. They would be for me. I can only do about 12 reps with them, on a flat bench. I think I’ll take DeFranco’s word over Chek’s, any day of the week. And HE still bench presses.[/quote]
Interesting.
[quote]CHEKonIT wrote:
Nominal Prospect wrote:
Joe DeFranco practicing what he preaches by completing 22 reps with 105lb. dumbbells on the stability ball bench press.
Thanks, Prospect.
And I bet he has very healthy shoulders, too![/quote]
Nope. He has terrible shoulders.
He also has his athletes DB and BB press from the bench.
As all the regulars have said many times the swissball DB press has a place but it is not a replacement for the DB or BB bench.
Waiting for the trolls to insult me again.
[quote]De sleeplijn wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Still no pics from the trolls yet?
Hey Zapper. Have you ever posted a pic?
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No need. I am banged up old rugby player not a physique athlete.
[quote]
I told you before that I have to photoshop these suckers![/quote]
At least you admit it.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
De sleeplijn wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Still no pics from the trolls yet?
Hey Zapper. Have you ever posted a pic?
No need. I am banged up old rugby player not a physique athlete.
I told you before that I have to photoshop these suckers!
At least you admit it.
[/quote]
That’s funny.
You’re also not making bullshit-assed claims about how big you are and stirring up shit. Be careful, though! He knows you’re my troll alias, or I am your alias. Right. WE are the trolls. This from the guy who joined the DAY AFTER CHEKonIT. Who’s the alias here?
[quote]Kratos wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
De sleeplijn wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Still no pics from the trolls yet?
Hey Zapper. Have you ever posted a pic?
No need. I am banged up old rugby player not a physique athlete.
I told you before that I have to photoshop these suckers!
At least you admit it.
That’s funny.
You’re also not making bullshit-assed claims about how big you are and stirring up shit. Be careful, though! He knows you’re my troll alias, or I am your alias. Right. WE are the trolls. This from the guy who joined the DAY AFTER CHEKonIT. Who’s the alias here?
[/quote]
Hey! I’m a troll here too!
(actually, I really was in this thread, but I figured it was long gone a while ago so I justified my own trolling)
[quote]Kratos wrote:
Here are DeFranco’s thoughts on the swiss ball:
JD: Yes, I like the Swiss ball for certain exercises during certain times of the year. The problem with the Swiss ball is most trainers overuse it. It becomes counterproductive when it?s overused because you can actually get weaker! This is because even though your stabilizers are activated, your prime movers are never overloaded due to the decreased loads you must use in Swiss ball exercises.
I like using the Swiss ball for high-rep dumbbell work, implemented in two to four week mini-cycles in a program. This is a great way to add muscle mass, address muscular imbalances, strengthen weaker stabilizing muscles, and it acts as restoration. After a few weeks I’d move on to more traditional exercises. I also like performing ab work on the Swiss ball due to the pre-stretch it provides during the eccentric contraction.
See that? It can make you WEAKER.
And 22 reps with 105 is impressive, but it’s still more dangerous than flat or inclined presses. 105 obviously isn’t that heavy for Joe. They would be for me. I can only do about 12 reps with them, on a flat bench. I think I’ll take DeFranco’s word over Chek’s, any day of the week. And HE still bench presses.[/quote]
Over use of any exercise can make you go backwards.
I would take DeFranco’s word over Cheks anyday. And I will take Chek’s word over your’s anyday too.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
De sleeplijn wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Still no pics from the trolls yet?
Hey Zapper. Have you ever posted a pic?
No need. I am banged up old rugby player not a physique athlete.
[/quote]
And I’ve said since day one that I am an ex soldier and bodybuilder. I train for performance now as I have seen the light.
You might know, how do I stick my head on Dorian Yates’ body with photoshop.
[quote]SWR-1240 wrote:
Kratos wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
De sleeplijn wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Still no pics from the trolls yet?
Hey Zapper. Have you ever posted a pic?
No need. I am banged up old rugby player not a physique athlete.
I told you before that I have to photoshop these suckers!
At least you admit it.
That’s funny.
You’re also not making bullshit-assed claims about how big you are and stirring up shit. Be careful, though! He knows you’re my troll alias, or I am your alias. Right. WE are the trolls. This from the guy who joined the DAY AFTER CHEKonIT. Who’s the alias here?
Hey! I’m a troll here too!
(actually, I really was in this thread, but I figured it was long gone a while ago so I justified my own trolling)[/quote]
The trolls are unifying.
[quote]De sleeplijn wrote:
The trolls are unifying.[/quote]
You mean you’re finally going to go by just one user name now?
[quote]Kratos wrote:
That’s funny.
You’re also not making bullshit-assed claims about how big you are and stirring up shit. Be careful, though! He knows you’re my troll alias, or I am your alias. Right. WE are the trolls. This from the guy who joined the DAY AFTER CHEKonIT. Who’s the alias here?
[/quote]
CHEKonIT and I are 2 different people. You’ve really done your research on me though. I’m flattered, maybe a little curios but no thanks.
By the way, stirring up shit. What? I have posted opinions merely the opposite to what you believe.
Okay, you’re not a troll. But you’re an idiot. The fact that you have an average sized, lean, muscular physique doesn’t mean shit. I see 50 fuckers like you a day at my gym. It doesn’t make you a guru on training and never will until you post something worthwhile.
[quote]SWR-1240 wrote:
De sleeplijn wrote:
The trolls are unifying.
You mean you’re finally going to go by just one user name now?[/quote]
Hahaha. I like that one. I’ll keep you on my friends list.
CHEKonIT starts work at 11am Australian Eastern Standard time so he will be here in 40 minutes.
Nah, I was talking about you, Zap and Spartacus.
This thread is getting out of hand. Da sleepjin of whatever your name is, please post a pic as youre profile sounds like you have an excellent physique.
[quote]keaster wrote:
This thread is getting out of hand. Da sleepjin of whatever your name is, please post a pic as youre profile sounds like you have an excellent physique.
[/quote]
Not gonna happen, as he’s full of shit. His profile will likely be different next week. First he was from Cali, then Florida, now Hawaii. If you want to know his next location I suggest taking a look at his favorite publication, the Spartacus Travel Guide.