Big Bench = Bad Shoulders

[quote]Kratos wrote:
You got that dead-on with that last remark, Zap. Sense seems to make the troll’s head hurt.[/quote]

There’s a man on Aussie TV that goes by the name of Jim Brayshaw. He’s the only person on the football commentary team who isn’t a former footballer.

Every sentence that comes out of his mouth is attached to the name of a fellow caller.

“woah, Brian, he’s put up the dukes”
“He’s kept him goal-less, Danny. Can you believe it”

He’s too insecure to make calls and stand alone in his statements, so in an attempt to add some credibility to his words, he ropes in someone that the public do respect.

You, Sparticus, are one of T-Nation’s many Brayshaws. It’s very easy to suck up to Prof X and co, but it’s much harder to put up an unpopular point of view.

Grow some balls, make some proper intelligtent arguments and stop posting schoolyard insults.

[quote]CHEKonIT wrote:

There’s a man on Aussie TV that goes by the name of Jim Brayshaw. He’s the only person on the football commentary team who isn’t a former footballer.

Every sentence that comes out of his mouth is attached to the name of a fellow caller.

“woah, Brian, he’s put up the dukes”
“He’s kept him goal-less, Danny. Can you believe it”

He’s too insecure to make calls and stand alone in his statements, so in an attempt to add some credibility to his words, he ropes in someone that the public do respect.
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Okay CHEKonIT. I’ve sat here and watched the stuff you have typed and I have taken in both sides of the story.

But you can’t go dissin’ my man JB or it will be on. He is a champ and he is holding the Footy Show together. His calls aren’t the best but he is exactly what CH9 needed.

That is your final warning.

[quote]keaster wrote:
This thread is sooooo gay. Although the poems are nicely done
[/quote]

I’ll give you gay.

[quote]CHEKonIT wrote:
You, Sparticus, are one of T-Nation’s many Brayshaws.
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That is hitting way below the belt, but I guess it is not as much of an insult as if you were to call him a Chek!

[quote]G.O.A.T wrote:
But you can’t go dissin’ my man JB or it will be on. He is a champ and he is holding the Footy Show together. His calls aren’t the best but he is exactly what CH9 needed.
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I hate to admit it, but I agree with Chek on this one. I am not a big fan of AFL, but JB just makes me like it even less.

I would be able to muster up some respect for him if he called cricket. At least he has played the game at a decent level.

[quote]Kratos wrote:
You got that dead-on with that last remark, Zap. Sense seems to make the troll’s head hurt. Sleepytroll’s replies never make any sense. He always backpedals or comes back with some BS that’s totally inane and child-like. [/quote]

Hey Dipshit,

My remarks have been completely for the Swiss Ball Press. And I will follow Paul Chek’s advice before I follow some punk PT or whatever you claim to be.

I have said that from the start and I am still wondering why someone with sub par pec development is not willing to try an exercise that may actually enhance his pecs. The BB Bench and DB Bench are obviously favourites for you but they don’t seem to be working.

It makes no sense to me whatsoever.

[quote]G.O.A.T wrote:
Okay CHEKonIT. I’ve sat here and watched the stuff you have typed and I have taken in both sides of the story.

But you can’t go dissin’ my man JB or it will be on. He is a champ and he is holding the Footy Show together. His calls aren’t the best but he is exactly what CH9 needed.

That is your final warning.

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You’re kidding me, right?

Brayshaw is a wannabe and useless on The Footy Show. Go back to modelling golfing clothes.

And just what are you warning me with?

[quote]helga wrote:
I hate to admit it, but I agree with Chek on this one. I am not a big fan of AFL, but JB just makes me like it even less.

I would be able to muster up some respect for him if he called cricket. At least he has played the game at a decent level.[/quote]

Did anyone watch Any Given Sunday when JB, Newman and Lyon were at the helm? It was the best show on TV and shat all over the current one with Mick Molloy and Nicole Stevenson. How could anyone think that was funny?

[quote]CHEKonIT wrote:
You’re kidding me, right?
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No. Very serious.

And McGuire was more?

A keyboard whipping.

[quote]Spartacus69 wrote:
keaster wrote:
This thread is sooooo gay. Although the poems are nicely done

I’ll give you gay.[/quote]

ha. I can actually see the similarities between the guys old Avatar.

Sorry Kratos!

I wish the mods would start locking threads like these when they get to this point.

This has nothing to do with squelching anyone’s opinion and has everything to do with the fact that the argument is just repeating itself over and over, with nothing new being added. I think both sides can agree to that, if nothing else.

The line is drawn in the sand and both sides are ready to fight to the death, regardless of what the conflict was originally about. In fact, I’ve seen several people on both sides actually agree about a lot of the main points of this thread, yet they continue to hurl insults.

Lock this damn thing already. If there was anything to be learned from this thread, it would have happened in the first ten pages.

arn’t swiss balls for pussies. i’d rather have some fucked up shoulders and be a man that uses the bench press than be some pansy on a swiss ball.

What was the purpose of this thread. Are you selling swiss balls?

[quote]De sleeplijn wrote:

I like to suck Paul Chek’s Dick

State your position or fuck off.[/quote]

My position is that this is the most retarded thread by far. I think we all have lost brain cells reading it.

And why the fuck are you defending the OP. Is he sending you naughty pictures that get you all hot and bothered.

[quote]G.O.A.T wrote:
Did anyone watch Any Given Sunday when JB, Newman and Lyon were at the helm? It was the best show on TV and shat all over the current one with Mick Molloy and Nicole Stevenson. How could anyone think that was funny?[/quote]

It was much better with Lyon and Newman for sure.

The only reason Brayshaw got any laughs was when they were laughing AT him.

[quote]G.O.A.T wrote:

A keyboard whipping.
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Give me a break, goat. I’m sure it’d be hard to whip anyone with your lips super-glued to Jim Brayshaw’s ass.

I hate how he has to call everybody by the full versions of their names.

I don’t think Gareth or Samuel thought it was funny either.

[quote]Go heavy fool wrote:
arn’t swiss balls for pussies. i’d rather have some fucked up shoulders and be a man that uses the bench press than be some pansy on a swiss ball.

What was the purpose of this thread. Are you selling swiss balls?[/quote]

Does your mum know you’re using the home computer during school hours?

It’s people like you that give males a bad reputation.

Next time, wait till you see a pussy before you try and compare it to something.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I want to see someone press 150lbs dumbbells on a swiss ball.
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I’ve seen 120s. DB’s didn’t go any higher.

[quote]CHEKonIT wrote:
G.O.A.T wrote:

A keyboard whipping.

Give me a break, goat. I’m sure it’d be hard to whip anyone with your lips super-glued to Jim Brayshaw’s ass.

I hate how he has to call everybody by the full versions of their names.

I don’t think Gareth or Samuel thought it was funny either.[/quote]

Actually. If you just heard him on the radio, you would be surprised when you saw him. He is a skinny little fucker and I think most would expect a decent sized sports guy.

He is more your private school pussy. But I find him funny.

Sam has reached another level this year. He is really enjoying Eddie not being there.

[quote]Go heavy fool wrote:
What was the purpose of this thread. Are you selling swiss balls?[/quote]

This thread has been ridiulously stupid at some points.

But what is the point of any thread? It was a good read and I enjoyed watching both sides go back and forth.

It is about to hit 400 replies soon. So it obviously hit a nerve with some people.

I’m disturbed to see that this tread has gotten so much attention. It’s a stupid debate, really.

Five years ago (at 17) I was a CHEK drone just like this guy. And he is obviously a drone since his whole identity revolved around being a Chek desciple. Anyway, I thought all the same things and cavorted around the internet spewing all the same crap about the bench press and everything else. I am enormously embarrassed to admit this- I’ll never be able to consider myself an intelligent person because of it.

Most of what Paul Chek says is sheer bullshit, and this bench press thing falls squarely under that umbrella. I know hundreds of athletes who bench press and few or none who have the shoulder injuries Chek promises.

Benching on a swiss ball does nothing other than train you to bench on a swiss ball. And that “standing cable push” exercise that Paul uses is bordering on worthless since you can’t use enough resistance to produce an appreciable strength gain.

The bench press has no less “functional carryover” than anything else. The correct strategy for athletes, therefore, is to use the bench press to develop the musculature, and then incorporate that strength into the relevant movements through practice.

The swiss ball press and the cable push are poor exercises. So use the bench press or be small and weak like Paul Chek, all his CHEK practitioners (have yet to see one with admirable strength, physique, or athletic ability), and all of their clients.

Paul Chek is nothing more than an evangelistic pseudo-guru and an aggressive marketer. He is a joke and a fraud and all of his “students” are unsophisticated drones who think they’re critical thinkers just because they take a position that goes against the conventional wisdom.

WOW, you can blindly repeat everything Paul says. Forgive me for being unimpressed.