Best Style for Self Defense?

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There was a huge split within IKMF and as always a lot of controversy surrounding it. Simply put, Eyal Yanilov left the IKMF and founded Krav Maga Global. I was originally an IKMF student but when the split occured, myself and most of us here in Aus moved to KMG to follow Eyal, reason being that Eyal was Imi’s closest student and has been actively advancing Krav Maga over his lifetime.

And yes, I’ve been scortched many a time for saying “but that is how I was taught”, mainly because higher ranking students and Instructors are expected with a high degree of free thinking and problem solving skills. [/quote]

Ooh, I’d heard Eyal had left, but nothing else. Thanks. :slight_smile:

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A little bit of wrestling, pankration and boxing training would probably serve you well in a self-defense scenerio. But it would depend entirely upon personal qualities like aggression, speed, how calm the person as, a lot of personal attributes and factors come into play with self-defense.

Boxing is one of the better ones for self-defense because it is super practical. from the start a boxer is taught how to defend while simultaneously striking, to always get their hands in a defensive position, to weave ad bob, most of boxing, from the very start, is super practical, the blocks and punches are straight-forward and effective in a way that other martial arts usually aren’t.

It’s a very practical real world fighting system, at least large aspects of it. You wouldn’t fight a guy in real life like it was a boxing match, but the skills would be of a lot of use.

But you would want some good grappling skills, if a strong big guy like Alexander Kraelin managed to grab you in pretty much anyway in real life, the best striking skills probably wouldn’t prevent you from finding yourself being tossed around like a rag-doll, so I would say some ability to grapple/wrestle would be pretty crucial if you find yourself in that horrible position.

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As I personaly know many professional criminals,its amazing they never practice self-defence,althlough they live the life of danger.Food for thought,eh?

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[quote]SKELAC wrote:
As I personaly know many professional criminals,its amazing they never practice self-defence,althlough they live the life of danger.Food for thought,eh?[/quote]

hahah so true. Most of the time they spend their time drinkin and doin blow and waitin for the next opportunity to come up.

Why the fuck would they want to spend time learning to fight when they can grab a pistol or a knife and make it that much easier?

As a boxer i once knew said, when referencing his shady past and acting like he was pointing a gun at someone - “Yea, I could fight you and knock you out, but this is way easier.”

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
Yoitspmart, if you are really serious about self defense, check out the Dynamic Combat Institute in Pheonix. That is one of my instructors (Dynamic Combat Founder and iCAT Martial Arts Co-Founder) Richard Ryan’s school. You aren’t going to get any better training in self defense than Rich is going to teach you. You will learn striking (Rich has world class striking skills and a very easy to learn approach to teaching striking) along with some of the best training out there in terms of confrontational management training, situational self defense, fantastic weapon training (IMO Rich has the best edged weapons defense system out there bar none), grappling and anti grappling skills, and pretty much everything else self defense related.

You’ll also quite possibly at some point get to train with my Primary instructor Walt Lysak Jr and his Brother Charlie Lysak as well as Martial Arts legend and one of the most knowledgeable striking coaches in the world Joe Lewis.

Here is Rich’s website:

Seriously, you are in a rare position being that close to some truly world class Reality Martial Arts instruction, at least go check it out and see for yourself.[/quote]

You know I finally looked into Joe Lewis after all of your ranting and raving about him.

I found some old videos online and everything, gotta say, dude knows his stuff. He made me laugh when he said that regardless of all the arts he knows, he still thinks that a good wrestler beats all of them.

Good dude.[/quote]

Nice.

The crazy thing about Coach Lewis is that he only continues to get better and more cutting edge the older he gets. So, depending on how old the videos you saw were, Joe is likely teaching and doing more effective stuff now, even though he knew what he was doing back then.

I just had the chance to train with him this past Saturday again, and even going on 69 years of age and only 6 months post major brain surgery, the guy is still lightning fast, hits like he’s got dynamite in his fists, and his movement skills are superb. He is also a walking encyclopedia of all things combative and can teach the little details that very few others can.

Truly a living legend.

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well this weekend it happend again we were walking to the car from the bars and some dumb ass started talking shit to my friend and so on and i was there and started laughing at the kid so he got in my face and started going at it but what was weird was while he was talking shit it was like a reaction that i saw a huge opening and that he dropped his guard and was about to throw a cross and definitely could have knocked this dumb ass out but then this thread and all the legal problems popped in my head and i realized it wasnt worth it but needless to say it was surprising to me that i could see the opening and almost reaction like throw a few punches

Other then that iv been doing boxing classes hitting the heavy bag, doing pad work and working on footwork and i will start using the double end bag some time next week

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Nice job, OP.

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Best self defense= destruction of the threat

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[quote]SKELAC wrote:
Best self defense= destruction of the threat[/quote]

Best self defense = avoidance of the threat.

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[quote]batman730 wrote:

[quote]SKELAC wrote:
Best self defense= destruction of the threat[/quote]

Best self defense = avoidance of the threat.[/quote]

if you are not attacked,theres no defence.

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the best style of self defense is being able to use a weapon, IMO. situation awareness helps a ton also.

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[quote]talon2nr7588 wrote:
the best style of self defense is being able to use a weapon, IMO. situation awareness helps a ton also.[/quote]

I agree.

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[quote]SKELAC wrote:

[quote]batman730 wrote:

[quote]SKELAC wrote:
Best self defense= destruction of the threat[/quote]

Best self defense = avoidance of the threat.[/quote]

if you are not attacked,theres no defence.[/quote]

Wrong, prevention is the best cure.

And, wouldn’t avoiding the situation be eliminating that threat?

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[quote]talon2nr7588 wrote:
the best style of self defense is being able to use a weapon, IMO. situation awareness helps a ton also.[/quote]

Weaponry skills are great, but they have to be legally and morally justified, otherwise you may win the battle but lose the war so to speak (end up in jail for assault with a deadly weapon or even murder).

Totally agree with the situational awareness.

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Self Defense Training System (SDTS) With Damien Ross is what you need.
I have been on a Google quest for almost two years sifting through crap to find an effective style of self protection because there are scum bags out there that kill, rape, and take from people and it’s always an unfair fight and often there’s a weapon involved.

Forget sports and cultural based martial arts they look pretty and require skill, fitness, youthfulness, but they take time to learn, have a lot of politics and BS and are not reality based. Boxing is good but crack your knuckle on a forehead or elbow and you’ve lost your primary weapon. Under times of great stress your fine motor skills go out the door and only gross motor skills work well. There is no submitting an opponent in SDTS. It’s ugly, mean and survival at all costs. Would also recommend an Australian by the name of Luke Holloway at ‘Raw Combat International’ if you like it a bit more technical but without all the BS of martial arts.

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[quote]chadx wrote:
Self Defense Training System (SDTS) With Damien Ross is what you need.
I have been on a Google quest for almost two years sifting through crap to find an effective style of self protection because there are scum bags out there that kill, rape, and take from people and it’s always an unfair fight and often there’s a weapon involved.
Forget sports and cultural based martial arts they look pretty and require skill, fitness, youthfulness, but they take time to learn, have a lot of politics and BS and are not reality based. Boxing is good but crack your knuckle on a forehead or elbow and you’ve lost your primary weapon. Under times of great stress your fine motor skills go out the door and only gross motor skills work well. There is no submitting an opponent in SDTS. It’s ugly, mean and survival at all costs. Would also recommend an Australian by the name of Luke Holloway at ‘Raw Combat International’ if you like it a bit more technical but without all the BS of martial arts.[/quote]

Wrong. Do not go near Damien Ross, Captain X, or any of the other fucking conmen that ruin the self-defense business.

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wing chun.

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[quote]Sentoguy wrote:

[quote]SKELAC wrote:

[quote]batman730 wrote:

[quote]SKELAC wrote:
Best self defense= destruction of the threat[/quote]

Best self defense = avoidance of the threat.[/quote]

if you are not attacked,theres no defence.[/quote]

Wrong, prevention is the best cure.

And, wouldn’t avoiding the situation be eliminating that threat?[/quote]

Lets me use example to explain,coz you are kind of slow.

Youre walking to your car with your girlfriend.The parking lot is dark.You notice a thug aproaching carrying a bat.His body language is aggressive.
Now,time to react is now.
You cannot run and leave your girlfriend alone.

I know what I would do.Instead of standing there like a sitting duck and waiting to be hit,I would rather take the fight to the attacker and make him react.

And let me tell you once I take that bat away from him,he would regret being born and wouldnt be able to attack anyone ever.

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[quote]Sentoguy wrote:

[quote]talon2nr7588 wrote:
the best style of self defense is being able to use a weapon, IMO. situation awareness helps a ton also.[/quote]

Weaponry skills are great, but they have to be legally and morally justified, otherwise you may win the battle but lose the war so to speak (end up in jail for assault with a deadly weapon or even murder).

Totally agree with the situational awareness.[/quote]

I guess your prefer your own wonderful funeral over an ugly criminal trial :))

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]chadx wrote:
Self Defense Training System (SDTS) With Damien Ross is what you need.
I have been on a Google quest for almost two years sifting through crap to find an effective style of self protection because there are scum bags out there that kill, rape, and take from people and it’s always an unfair fight and often there’s a weapon involved.
Forget sports and cultural based martial arts they look pretty and require skill, fitness, youthfulness, but they take time to learn, have a lot of politics and BS and are not reality based. Boxing is good but crack your knuckle on a forehead or elbow and you’ve lost your primary weapon. Under times of great stress your fine motor skills go out the door and only gross motor skills work well. There is no submitting an opponent in SDTS. It’s ugly, mean and survival at all costs. Would also recommend an Australian by the name of Luke Holloway at ‘Raw Combat International’ if you like it a bit more technical but without all the BS of martial arts.[/quote]

Wrong. Do not go near Damien Ross, Captain X, or any of the other fucking conmen that ruin the self-defense business.[/quote]

Self-defence bussiness is exactly that=Bussiness.

People who go there are already vulnerable.They have mentality of a victim.And thats the last place you want to be.
Next time that 250-lb. thug comes around,remind him to fuck off unless he want to see his family house in flames.
Let me tell you,99 % of these tough assholes are nothing but posers and bringing little evil on them would make them shit their pants.