well there are more good ones than can be named here:
U.K. Subs
L.E.S. Stitches
Stiff Little Fingers
Choking Victim
Leftover Crack
Swinging Utters
Black Flag
NOFX
The Casualties
A Global Threat
Anti-Heroes
Minor Threat
G.B.H.
The Exploited
Pennywise
Live Nudes
and then there are a sampling of bands that used to be good but now blow gonads:
Dropkick Murphys
Rancid
AFI
Greenday
[quote]iamthewolf wrote:
and then there are a sampling of bands that used to be good but now blow gonads:
Dropkick Murphys
[/quote]
You have explaining to do
I saw them live in 04 as well as 07
They kicked ass, both times
[quote]HangerBaby wrote:
iamthewolf wrote:
and then there are a sampling of bands that used to be good but now blow gonads:
Dropkick Murphys
You have explaining to do
I saw them live in 04 as well as 07
They kicked ass, both times[/quote]
allow me to elaborate then. in the past 10 years i’ve probably gone to see them play a dozen times (though it’s easy when you live in boston since they play here damn near constantly). the first time i saw them was at a bar in NJ right after “the gang’s all here” came out, and i will wholeheartedly say that may have been the best show i’ve ever been to in my life.
the reason being that they played off “the gang” and “do or die” for the whole show (the fact that niblick henbane was one of the openers helped too since they kick ass).
though as time passed and they continued to release albums with only a couple of the original people still in the band (namely ken casey and matt kelly) their music went down hill and fast. “sing loud sing proud” was only a halfway decent album, “the single’s collection” was just that, a collection already existing songs. nothing really new to report with the exception of some unreleased live stuff. “live on st. patrick’s day” was ok (mostly since i was at that show) but again, nothing new.
which brings me to “blackout,” the most god awful album i’ve heard since rancid released “indestructible.” and don’t even get me started on “the warrior’s code.”
to sum up, DKM used to be a hardcore street punk band with a predominantly skinhead following. they have now regressed into a “celtic infused pseudo-punk” band (like a bad version of flogging molly) especially with the introduction of spicy mchagis) with a following comprised mostly of high school girls.
in short, they used to be great, but now they blow gonads.
[quote]iamthewolf wrote:
HangerBaby wrote:
iamthewolf wrote:
and then there are a sampling of bands that used to be good but now blow gonads:
Dropkick Murphys
You have explaining to do
I saw them live in 04 as well as 07
They kicked ass, both times
allow me to elaborate then. in the past 10 years i’ve probably gone to see them play a dozen times (though it’s easy when you live in boston since they play here damn near constantly). the first time i saw them was at a bar in NJ right after “the gang’s all here” came out, and i will wholeheartedly say that may have been the best show i’ve ever been to in my life.
the reason being that they played off “the gang” and “do or die” for the whole show (the fact that niblick henbane was one of the openers helped too since they kick ass).
though as time passed and they continued to release albums with only a couple of the original people still in the band (namely ken casey and matt kelly) their music went down hill and fast. “sing loud sing proud” was only a halfway decent album, “the single’s collection” was just that, a collection already existing songs. nothing really new to report with the exception of some unreleased live stuff. “live on st. patrick’s day” was ok (mostly since i was at that show) but again, nothing new.
which brings me to “blackout,” the most god awful album i’ve heard since rancid released “indestructible.” and don’t even get me started on “the warrior’s code.”
to sum up, DKM used to be a hardcore street punk band with a predominantly skinhead following. they have now regressed into a “celtic infused pseudo-punk” band (like a bad version of flogging molly) especially with the introduction of spicy mchagis) with a following comprised mostly of high school girls.
in short, they used to be great, but now they blow gonads.[/quote]
I see that POV but to say they suck is a bit extreme. They still play the gangs all here and do or die, both times i’ve seen them. The Warrior’s code is a good song but the rest of them on that album are mediocre if not less than, and the meanest of times is practically the same. They’re still awesome individuals.
I saw them with Gang Grene and Lost City Angels in 04, it was so ridiculously hard to stay up in the moshpit, skinheads everywhere. If you want hardcore you can go see Agnostic Front, The 21st Impact, or Raised Fist… or municipal waste 
[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
Punk rockers are just as bad as metal heads. They get so upset when someone calls a band “punk” that isn’t “punk”. To me it’s just a stupid label to slap on a band. [/quote]
That’s because it’s insulting to the original movement. Calling a band like Green Day punk is fucking travesty. Johnny Lydon would laugh his ass off, and probably does.
I really like this DK clip. It’s an epic piece:
The Misfits are pretty much my favorite band.
Regardless of the “sold-out” label many would put on them and while the newer stuff strays from some of the punk styles it would be hard to argue that the old stuff isn’t pretty badass.
Some of my fav’s
Last Caress:
Hybrid Moments:
[quote]HangerBaby wrote:
iamthewolf wrote:
HangerBaby wrote:
iamthewolf wrote:
I saw them with Gang Grene and Lost City Angels in 04, it was so ridiculously hard to stay up in the moshpit, skinheads everywhere. If you want hardcore you can go see Agnostic Front, The 21st Impact, or Raised Fist… or municipal waste
[/quote]
i saw Agnostic Front with TSOL and someone else at the Middle East in Cambridge…that was a fucking awesome show.
You are not “punk” if you sit around arguing about what the word means or describes.
I know what is punk and what isn’t just when I see it.
[quote]Vicomte wrote:
strungoutboy21 wrote:
Punk rockers are just as bad as metal heads. They get so upset when someone calls a band “punk” that isn’t “punk”. To me it’s just a stupid label to slap on a band.
That’s because it’s insulting to the original movement. Calling a band like Green Day punk is fucking travesty. Johnny Lydon would laugh his ass off, and probably does.
[/quote]
Basically i wouldn’t consider anything “punk” nowadays.
[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
strungoutboy21 wrote:
Punk rockers are just as bad as metal heads. They get so upset when someone calls a band “punk” that isn’t “punk”. To me it’s just a stupid label to slap on a band.
That’s because it’s insulting to the original movement. Calling a band like Green Day punk is fucking travesty. Johnny Lydon would laugh his ass off, and probably does.
Basically i wouldn’t consider anything “punk” nowadays. [/quote]
Exackley.
i would slap Johnny Lydon in the face.
like i said, call the label what you want. i could say the sky isnt blue, its green and it doesnt make a damn difference about what it is.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
i would slap Johnny Lydon in the face.
like i said, call the label what you want. i could say the sky isnt blue, its green and it doesnt make a damn difference about what it is.[/quote]
Then I’ll label you a moron.
yeah, pennywise and blink 182. Also me first and the gimmie gimmies
[quote]Vicomte wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
i would slap Johnny Lydon in the face.
like i said, call the label what you want. i could say the sky isnt blue, its green and it doesnt make a damn difference about what it is.
Then I’ll label you a moron.[/quote]
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[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
i would slap Johnny Lydon in the face.
like i said, call the label what you want. i could say the sky isnt blue, its green and it doesnt make a damn difference about what it is.
Then I’ll label you a moron.
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo[/quote]
Yeah, take that, sucka!
I always thought punk was born out of a reaction against mainstream, rigid definitions of 1970’s rock and roll, a sort of big “fuck you” to established authority and moral standards. I didn’t think it was about a very specific sound, coming out of a specific place, at a specific time, and that it couldn’t evolve and change and grow. Doesn’t that make punk even more rigid and “moralistic” than the shit it was meant to counter? Doesn’t that kind of reverse the whole, for lack of a better term, “punk ethic?”
Bands like Bad Religion, Descendents, X, Black Flag, Social Distortion, and The Vandals were all formed in the late 70’s/early 80’s, right on the heels of “original” punk, and they were directly inspired by bands like the Sex Pistols. They may represent the second generation of punk, but to say they aren’t punk is just silly. IMHO anyways…
I can’t really agree that the British punk sound came first or that it originated in Britain. The term is used several times to describe American bands specifically and the music scene of the US, Britain and Australia (I am pretty sure) in bit of a less specific way.
One of the first uses was to describe a compilation album of garage music called Nuggets (which I thought had some UK bands on it but it seems like it doesn’t after I looked through all of them)
Another source it is attributed to is Legs McNeil who started the first PUNK magazine called … Punk… Pretty creative. But he says he coined the term Punk.
"McNeil said that the magazine was inspired by two chief influences: Harvey Kurtzman and The Dictators’ debut album The Dictators Go Girl Crazy!, indicating that the magazine was started strictly so that its creators could “hang out with the Dictators”.[1]
Nicknamed “Resident Punk” in the magazine, he claims (to much dispute) that he was the first person (along with co-founder John Holmstrom) to have coined the term “punk” to describe a certain type of music, fashion, and attitude. He says he came up with the name punk because Telly Savalas used the line “You lousy punk!” on the show “Kojak.”"
To quote this link: Legs McNeil - Wikipedia
Here is another link describing protopunk. The bands that really started it. Punk rock - Wikipedia
The majority of it seems to be based out of the US. Of course Britain had a huge influence on it as well. But really it was more born out of the US than Britain.
Even the look associated with punk was attributed to an American silly man Richard Hell: “The band’s bassist/singer, Richard Hell, created a look with cropped, ragged hair, ripped T-shirts, and black leather jackets credited as the basis for punk rock visual style.”
The hilarious thing was that he was wearing ragged clothing that was held together with safety pins because he had no damn money. But this was picked up on by the fans. You will notice that the bands didn’t really dress like the fans. Btw that quote is from the last link I posted.
THIS is a great documentary about punk and its origins. - YouTube
The rest of the documentary is in that user’s videos.
I can’t remember the name of a great book about the history of punk rock which was just a huge collection of quotes from the musicians and others that were actually involved used to tell the story. If I can think of it I will post it.
sorry it took me so long
dead kennedys
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Most of my picks have all been named, but I would expect no less for these:
Pennywise
Screeching Weasle
Minor Threat
but you all must have forgotten…
Guttermouth!
as for ska/punk whatever:
Op Ivy
NOFX