Best Punk and Post-Punk Bands?

[quote]Lohryx5 wrote:
The Casualties

One of my sons is a big fan of theirs…got me hooked on them. He beg me for over a year to let him have a mohawk…that was when he was 3 years old. No shit. We made him wait, and after that year he still wanted it. He’s had every color under the son and it was long as hell…liberty spikes over a foot long. Did a couple photos for a local punk store.

Anyway, went to see The Casualties when he was about 5 and he had a freakin’ blast. The band came up to him afterwards and were the nicest guys you’d ever meet. They invited him back and gave him all sorts of free merch. He still sleeps with his Casualties scarf 4 years later.

He’s since given up the mohawk, however, cause all the other kids at school started doing the same. He didn’t understand what the big deal was or why they all wanted to copy him. He said he didn’t want everyone trying to be like him.[/quote]

This is your second time telling this story, and it just reinforces my belief your boy’s just a pure sav in waiting. Good work on that one :wink:

Black Flag (early Henry Rollins):

The Exploited:

Subhumans:

Bad Brains:

Circle Jerks:

Dead Kennedy’s etc etc

Now, I need to go dig out all the vinyl LPs!!

The Pixies have some dope songs. Kinda punk I guess.

Dead Kennedys, Bad Brains, Minor Threat, Fugazi, Sex Pistols, The Clash, The Ramones, Siousxie and the Banshees, Rancid, Suicidal Tendencies, Violent Femmes, The Cure, Joy Division, Meat Puppets, Misfits, Minutemen, Bad Religion, The Descendants, early Offspring, The Distillers, Bauhaus, Wire, Buzzcocks, X, The Damned, Social Distortion, Dead Boys, Pennywise, and the Mighty Mighty Bosstones

Proto-Punk
New York Dolls, Patti Smith, Iggy Pop and the Stooges, Lou Reed, Velvet Underground

[quote]imhungry wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
i like the Ramones…the Clash are punk?

i like Greenday too.

Yes, they sure are.

Greenday is NOT punk. They were at one time, but now it’s a different story.[/quote]

i knew someone was going to mention something about Greenday.

i dont know about their newer stuff i was listening to them circa Dookie…yea i was like 10 or 11 but i bought Rancid’s CD at that too…even if it was only for Ruby Soho.

Greenday is everybit punk and if not more than the Clash. i mean those guys made Rock The Casbah…thats not really punk.

i like Greenday, i like the Ramones, i like a couple Clash songs too, We Are The Clash & Straight To Hell but i dont think they’re very punk…although i dont now ALL their works either. i dont like The Misfits or Dead Kennedys, maybe i could get them to grow on me but right now i dont.

[quote]entheogens wrote:
A-Dizz wrote:
I’m a punk rocker at heart and would love to discuss this stuff ad naseum if anyone does so desire.

-dizzle

What got you into punk? For me, I am almost the same age as
Biafra. You wouldn’t believe the shit we had to listen to on the radio in the mid to late seventies (or maybe you would). I mean, you had the 60s where this new music was born amongst the idealism , then in the 70s rock got pretty much co-opted and you had to listen to corporate rock. If I ever hear Peter Frampton again, I swear I am going to barf, so stay clear! This was the age of such <> as Barry Mannilow, Neil Sedaka, the Captain and Tanille (sic) and other butt-wipes of that genre. And, yes, this was the me-generation’s dizzying descent towards the Reagan “Revolution” in 1980. People were wearing shit like LaCoste sweaters to class.

Then I started hearing through friends these albums by groups like the Sex Pistols, Dead Kennedys, the Gang of Four, the Ramones. Man, what a relief! They created a vortex that drew in youth like myself who were tired of the conservative worldview and the fucking boring, soulless music it was producing.
I can almost say that Punk music saved my soul, because I was feeling really alienated by the culture around me.
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Cool story. It seems like a lot of people get into punk rock simply because they see through the vain attitudes and general lameness that comes with listening to the pop stuff.

For me, I was assimiliated into the punk rock brotherhood from my first Warped Tour. It was Warped Tour '99. (If you’ve been to a Warped Tour post 2001, please don’t judge me because of that. The Warped Tour now is rampant with craptastic bands, sky-high prices for everything, and 15 year old girls chapperoned by their mommies and daddies who come to see Fall Out Boy and other non-threatening cookie cutter douche bag bands. Make no mistake though, the Warped Tour used to be legit and all the die-hard punk rockers used to find their homes there.) I went and it was just a sea of mohawks, tattoos, piercings, loud music, free stickers/patches/shirts/CDs/etc., and aggression. It was contained chaos. ALthough everyone there looked like they wanted to kill your mom, they were also the first ones to help you up if you fell down in a mosh pit or engage in friendly conversation while waiting in line for something.

It was this overwhelming sense of community that just drew me in. Everyone was there for a purpose and you could see it in their eyes. It was so collectively in your face and badass that I couldn’t turn the other cheek. I got a bunch of free CDs and listened to the music when I got home and it literally sucked me in. I couldn’t stop listening to it (and still can’t). I went back the next year and instead of observing this crazy lifestyle I felt like I was living the lifestyle. I was in the pits, singing the songs, talking the talk and walking the walk and I just felt so at home. All my friends from there on out were punk rockers just by circumstance because we connect on a different level than most people can understand.

I feel like when punk rockers come together it’s always about the group and not the individual. We’ve gone through so much ridicule and torment outside of our meeting grounds that we truly understand the value of community and brotherhood than most other groups. It’s not just about the music, it’s about living the life and connecting with your true inner self and other people. Punk rock didn’t necessarily save my life as much as it shaped it to the point where I didn’t have to worry about salvation. For almost as long as I’ve been really deep into music I’ve loved punk rock, and it helped me find my place in the world.

Just to name a few more bands that I love:

Punk - F-Minus, Lars and the Bastards, Dropkick, Bouncing Souls, Anti-Flag, the Suicide Machines, Nekromantix, Clit 45, Patriot, All, Ten Foot Pole, Death By Stereo, 98 Mute, Zeke, Dwarves, Union 13, New Bomb Turks, Agnostic Front, The Humpers, Vision, Bombshell Rocks, Down By Law, and Osker.

Ska - New York Ska Xchange, The Toasters, the Slackers, the Pietasters, Catch 22, Streetlight, Hub City Stompers, Skatellites, Mustard Plug, Big D, Hyjinx.

That’s all I can think of right now. Long post, my bad.

-dizzle

Mighty Mighty Bosstones? freally?

howcome no one has mentioned Dropkick Murphys? i thought everyone knew em after The Departed

isnt No Doubt a Ska band?

You people make me very sad. You should be ashamed of yourselves. Punk is a much smaller genre than most think, at least as far as what was actually recorded and is available to listen to today. Real Punk comes from England, and was created in the space of a few years. Say about late '75- early '79, and that’s being generous. The list of notable Punk bands with existing recordings is quite small.

Sex Pistols
Adverts
X-Ray Spex
Subway Sect
Slits
Generation X
Adicts
Buzzcocks
Damned
Undertones
U.K. Subs
Siouxsie and the Banshees

There are others, of course, but not very many. There were hundreds of throwaway punk bands back in the day, when everybody with a guitar wanted a shot, but few of them ever recorded or signed with a record label.

Pre-punk is too varied and unlike Punk to be quantifiable, but there are a few post-punk bands that still have a very punk sound, often these were formed by members of disbanded punk groups. Bands like the Raincoats, Public Image LTD., things like that.

The Clash is not a punk band. They were for the first album, but after that everything went to shit and they were just another shitty pop band. The fact that everyone knows who they are is evidence of their shitty pop bandness. Most people can’t name two songs on their only true punk album, only fucking pop nastiness like Rock the Casbah, or Should I Stay or Should I Go. Therefore, not a punk band. had potential, though.

American Punk (Hardcore) is not Punk. The British Punk sound came first and is much too different form the American stuff from the same period and later to be called the same thing. It’s much faster, harder, and angrier. It’s not bad, just not Punk. Calling music from the '80s and '90s Punk is just silly. It’s nothing like it. Green Day is a rip off of the Dead Kennedys, so I suppose you could call them American Punk Rip Off Artists That Suck Hard, if you can swallow that.

The Ramones, New York Dolls, Richard Hell, perhaps the Talking Heads, these guys are early American Punk, which isn’t as hard as the later stuff. It’s still very different from the British stuff.

The Punk Era pretty much ended when the Pistols broke up in '78. This is a good thing, as all the good punk bands only had one good album in them anyway. Too much energy to last any length of time. This includes the Clash, who made their punk album then made shit.

[quote]imhungry wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
i like the Ramones…the Clash are punk?

i like Greenday too.

Yes, they sure are.

Greenday is NOT punk. They were at one time, but now it’s a different story.[/quote]

The Clash sold out, man.

It makes me sad, too.

[quote]entheogens wrote:
A-Dizz wrote:
I’m a punk rocker at heart and would love to discuss this stuff ad naseum if anyone does so desire.

-dizzle

What got you into punk? For me, I am almost the same age as
Biafra. You wouldn’t believe the shit we had to listen to on the radio in the mid to late seventies (or maybe you would). I mean, you had the 60s where this new music was born amongst the idealism , then in the 70s rock got pretty much co-opted and you had to listen to corporate rock. If I ever hear Peter Frampton again, I swear I am going to barf, so stay clear! This was the age of such <> as Barry Mannilow, Neil Sedaka, the Captain and Tanille (sic) and other butt-wipes of that genre. And, yes, this was the me-generation’s dizzying descent towards the Reagan “Revolution” in 1980. People were wearing shit like LaCoste sweaters to class.

Then I started hearing through friends these albums by groups like the Sex Pistols, Dead Kennedys, the Gang of Four, the Ramones. Man, what a relief! They created a vortex that drew in youth like myself who were tired of the conservative worldview and the fucking boring, soulless music it was producing.
I can almost say that Punk music saved my soul, because I was feeling really alienated by the culture around me.

[/quote]

The Gang of Four are fantastic. They got ripped by the Chili Peppers, and now no one knows who they are. It is also a sad thing.

X(always loved Exene)
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=45130516
Peter and the Test Tube Babies
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=20771685
Ian Drury and the Blockheads

Cookies Downtown
http://www.myspace.com/cookiesd
Wicked Little Dolls
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=3461901
Buzzcocks
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=27985949
U.K. Subs

Bobnoxious
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=29833409
Sex Pistols
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=97124587
Meat Puppets(early years were the best)
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=7730952
Social Distortion
http://www.myspace.com/socialdistortion

Well I’ve got like 50gb of almost pure punk rock. Theres a ton…

Black Flag
Subhumans
Subincision
Chaotic Dischord
U.S. Bombs
Defiance
DESCENDENTS!!!
ALL!!!
HUSKER DU!!!
Dropkick Murphys
Social D
Bad Religion
No Fun At All
GBH
Pennywise
Rich Kids on LSD (most articulate with their instruments)
Wasps
ADOLESCENTS!!! (every kid should hear their s/t)
7 Seconds

newer:

River City Rebels
Aus-Rotten
Strung Out
A Wilhelm Scream

Seriously though theres too many.
The Casualties are a fuckin disgrace to punk rock. I swear if I ever see those fashion punks I’m going to tell them to get right fuckin out of punk rock music.

THE OFFSPRING!

Punk rockers are just as bad as metal heads. They get so upset when someone calls a band “punk” that isn’t “punk”. To me it’s just a stupid label to slap on a band.

I don’t listen too much to the old school stuff, but i know a lot about it and respect it. My favorite band would have to be Strung Out. I know they are not true “punk”, more like a metal fused melodic punk rawk band. Would also like to add A Wilhelm Scream and Strike Anywhere to that list.

Old School AFI and Lagwagon are up there too.

RISE AGAINST

NOFX

Minor Threat

The Offspring

Blink 182

Dropkick Murphys

Against Me!

I’ll throw D.O.A. into the punk hat. 30 years and still going. Plus, they’re Canadian :slight_smile:
G.B.H. was mentioned (I just saw them in Toronto a month or so ago) already.
I met Jello Biafra years ago. I walked down the street with him for about 10 minutes while he was going to get his ride.

Those 3 (D.O.A, G.B.H. and DK) are probably my fav bands of all time.

Youth Brigade
Battalion of Saints
Adolescents
Manic Hispanic
China White
Bonecrusher (I used to watch them jam in their garage/studio… waaaaaaay back when)
Sick of it All
Snap Her
No Solution
Guttermouth
Black Flag

[quote]Dissonance wrote:
on edge wrote:
I’ve gotta get The Cure on this list. They were punk before punk had a name and they are immortal.

Violent Fems are great.

Speaking of immortal legends how about David Bowie.

Early Atom Ant was one of my favorites as a kid.

Do the Cars and Talking Heads count as Punk? If so, get 'em on the list please.

No, no… and no!

Not punk at all!

On a sidenote, BLACK FLAG MOTHERFUCKERS!

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Punk is all about attitude not just the “music”. Violent Femmes and Devo and Talking heads were punks of a different variety – anti-punk.

Blag Flag for sure!

Long live Joe Strummer!

punk is not really just a genre, its more of a lifestyle…

Those who get offended when you call greenday a punk band most likely are very attached to that lifestyle