and to ever said in the first page why would u palm hit someone well i think he means to hit pressure points in the face. i have been in martial arts for about 6 years and the only way to use a palm heel is for knock outs or bitch slaps.
[quote]randym wrote:
and to ever said in the first page why would u palm hit someone well i think he means to hit pressure points in the face. i have been in martial arts for about 6 years and the only way to use a palm heel is for knock outs or bitch slaps.[/quote]
I have been in the Martial arts for 23 years and the reason that a palm strike is better than a fist
1.is that the metacarples break under pressure and that wont happen with a palm strike because there is better cushioning and less chance of getting someones teath stuck in you knuckles( which will give you any number of infections)
2. check out the last time to well known professional boxers had a fight outside the ring a day before their big fight end with no knock outs but broken hands.
Just my two cents worth Fluffy
What works best is to keep a hot chick with you. When the shit is about to hit the fan, have her whip out her titties. Guys can’t fight when there’s titties bouncing around.
DB
[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
What works best is to keep a hot chick with you. When the shit is about to hit the fan, have her whip out her titties. Guys can’t fight when there’s titties bouncing around.
DB[/quote]
Ha HA I will have to try that this weekend 
Well, if you don’t learn any BJJ or grappling and you end up one on one with someone who is somewhat proficient, you will probably get your ass handed to you.
One thing that I really like about it is the way that you are able to protect yourself from damage and control the fight. When you are standing you’ll have your defense, but all it takes is that lucky shot to get thru and you’re done…however, if you take the fight to the ground and are in control it is much less likely that you’ll get hurt, and any damage your opponent will impose will be fairly minimal.
Jiu-jitsu is taught mostly as a sport, though it does have one of the better translations into real world practice of the martial art “sports”, even the Gracie’s don’t recommend getting into a streetfight and trying to pull guard…most’ve them are proficient in kicks, throws, and takedowns.
All that said, if it comes down to it and I am being approached by multiple opponents, I will always go for the throat strike first, that or hit the door running. It is usually fairly unexpected, you can’t really build up a resistance to being hit in the throat, and if you’ve seen someone go to the ground clutching their throat and making that gurgling sound you’ll think twice about what you are doing.
There is no ‘best opener’ except the one that works, the one that you have available to you in a given situation. Everything is dependant on the circumstances of the fight, if you can’t walk away and you feel your in real personal danger, is a weapon available? Can you kick out a knee? A solid strike to the face goes a long way towards ending a fight quickly, so does a broken knee or a pool queue through the neck, etc.
Id throw a kick to the legs to sweep him (just above the ankles) and knock his ass to the floor; then mount him. most guys wouldn’t expect it (I know i sure as hell wouldn’t), i’d expect a haymaker to the face or somethin’ before a leg sweep.
[quote]cap’nsalty wrote:
Sonny S wrote:
Inspired by the Which MA? thread, I thought I’d see what you feel would be the best first strike/s to execute in a fight.
If I could kick accurately, I would certainly go for a leg kick. They are extremely painful, devastating to someone who’s never taken one, unexpected, allow one to stay out of their opponent’s punching range and are safer and simpler to throw than high kicks which require more balance and finesse.
Second choice would be for a combo of eye rakes then a)heel of the palm strikes and b) an elbow.
What exactly is the point of palm strikes? Less range than a punch, and a softer surface. Is there something I’m missing?[/quote]
When your hand is pulled back and focused that surface is not so soft anymore. Heel of palm is less likely to get you a broken knuckle which can truly hamper your fighting ability. It also makes for a devastating blow if you are somehow lower than your attacker, i.e shorter. Heel of palm is but one tool in the arsenal. The shorter range makes it useful for moments when you and your opponent are in close quarters.
Based upon the fights I have seen, it’s muy importante that whatever you do, you do it quickly. 95% of the fights I’ve seen go like this:
“Yap yap yap blah bla-”
One hard punch to the face, the other guys either falls over or covers up, and the guy who hit first finishes however he likes.
In a real confrontation, you will probably hesitate, and thus lose, unless you practice actually hitting/grappling actual people. Find a good gym and train.
The guy fing with you will not hesitate. Walk away. If you can’t, your training may allow you to take him down. Immediately.
No I don’t claim to be an expert, but I have seen a bunch of guys lose. The ones who win are almost always the ones with more/better fighting experience.
And they hit first.
Kina Mutai – biting! If someone takes you to the ground, literally gnaw through them. Very few fighters have ever been truly bitten and this will literally shock the hell out of them. If you can get your teeth on his fingers or arms, pretend you are a rabid rat and gnaw that sucker. Gnaw off his cheek. Hold him tight and start chewing.
I know this sounds gross but (a) it is better than death (2) it is a Filipino martial art, one of the most deadly in the world.
Happy Chewing!!!
“Two thousand pounds of education
Drops to a ten-rupee jezail --”
the correct answer is:
alternating straight punches while advancing towards your opponent a la belfort vs silva. an untrained fighter doesn’t have a chance in hell of blocking or slipping the straight punches, and they produce rapid knockouts.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Kina Mutai – biting! If someone takes you to the ground, literally gnaw through them. Very few fighters have ever been truly bitten and this will literally shock the hell out of them. If you can get your teeth on his fingers or arms, pretend you are a rabid rat and gnaw that sucker. Gnaw off his cheek. Hold him tight and start chewing.
I know this sounds gross but (a) it is better than death (2) it is a Filipino martial art, one of the most deadly in the world.
Happy Chewing!!![/quote]
that’s also a great way to pick up blood borne diseases, such as HIV and HEP C.
[quote]Rah-Knee wrote:
the correct answer is:
alternating straight punches while advancing towards your opponent a la belfort vs silva. an untrained fighter doesn’t have a chance in hell of blocking or slipping the straight punches, and they produce rapid knockouts.[/quote]
LOL!!! I used to eat guys like that for breakfast. Have you ever heard of blocking or side stepping and countering. P-L-E-A-S-E…
Never assume the person you are confronting is untrained; actually it’s always best to assume the opposit or you’ll go to brush something off of your shoulder and it’ll be the ground.
[quote]Rah-Knee wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Kina Mutai – biting! If someone takes you to the ground, literally gnaw through them. Very few fighters have ever been truly bitten and this will literally shock the hell out of them. If you can get your teeth on his fingers or arms, pretend you are a rabid rat and gnaw that sucker. Gnaw off his cheek. Hold him tight and start chewing.
I know this sounds gross but (a) it is better than death (2) it is a Filipino martial art, one of the most deadly in the world.
Happy Chewing!!!
that’s also a great way to pick up blood borne diseases, such as HIV and HEP C.
[/quote]
That’s why biting should be a last resort.
DB
All other things being equal, I’d prefer my Colt .45 Gold Cup. If the reason your in a fight doesn’t justify killing you opponent, then you probably shouldn’t be in the fight. Just walk away.
Get some basic muay thai and really learn the clinch. This limits your opponents striking ability and opens their body and face to knee and elbow strikes. I always cover, step in, and clinch. I have some BJJ training too, so if I can get a fight to the ground I have a huge comfortability advantage.
[quote]reddog6376 wrote:
All other things being equal, I’d prefer my Colt .45 Gold Cup. If the reason your in a fight doesn’t justify killing you opponent, then you probably shouldn’t be in the fight. Just walk away.[/quote]
This is exactly what I was refering to in my first post. I’m sorry to say, but that goes to the “bone-head reply” category in this thread.
Lets get this straight. Say a guy in a bar takes a swing at you and connects. Are you saying you’re going to cap him? Or are you telling me you’re going to be a pussy and walk away and let him maybe do it again? I hope you aren’t serious or maybe you just didn’t think your reply through.
In case you don’t know, you are only legally allowed to use “reasonable force” not excessive force to protect yourself. There’s a term for smoking someone with a .45 that doesn’t threaten you with a deadly weapon. Its called MURDER.
Prisions are full of geniuses like you. Come on people use common sense. Jeez!
Prisons and graveyards are full of tough guys. As a former professional kickboxer, I can add this. Leg kicks are very efffective, but in a street fight, you’d never get enough in the be real effective. They are more used to wear a guy down, like chopping down a tree.
The reason boxers are trained to breathe through their noses is so that their mouth is not open. Yes, a punch to a closed jaw is much less effective than to an open one.
As far as a streetfight goes, I like to use my reach, jab a guy a few times and then unload with the big right hand. If I can land that punch, coming from a 255 pound guy that knows how to use his hips to punch, it is usually over.
It’s a matter of how ruthless you are. One good punch in the throat will put anybody down, but you run the risk of killing the guy. Once, a guy tried to fishhook me, and I bit his finger off. The police came to me and asked if I knew where it was. I told them I spit it out.
Basically, you do what you gotta do. And I have to add this. If the odds are definitly against you numbers wise, get the fuck out. I got my ass kicked by 6 guys when I was in high school, my two friends ran. My dad asked my why I didn’t run, I said “I was too proud to run”. He said “thats bullshit, you were too stupid to run”. There is no honor in getting your ass kicked!
[quote]assbuster wrote:
reddog6376 wrote:
All other things being equal, I’d prefer my Colt .45 Gold Cup. If the reason your in a fight doesn’t justify killing you opponent, then you probably shouldn’t be in the fight. Just walk away.
This is exactly what I was refering to in my first post. I’m sorry to say, but that goes to the “bone-head reply” category in this thread.
Lets get this straight. Say a guy in a bar takes a swing at you and connects. Are you saying you’re going to cap him? Or are you telling me you’re going to be a pussy and walk away and let him maybe do it again? I hope you aren’t serious or maybe you just didn’t think your reply through.
In case you don’t know, you are only legally allowed to use “reasonable force” not excessive force to protect yourself. There’s a term for smoking someone with a .45 that doesn’t threaten you with a deadly weapon. Its called MURDER.
Prisions are full of geniuses like you. Come on people use common sense. Jeez![/quote]
First off, bar fights are stupid. I would walk away long before it came to swinging. If that makes me a pussy, then so be it. I’ve just never seen anything in a bar that’s worth fighting over.
Second, I’m not going to get in a fight unless my life, or someone I care about’s life is in danger. If that occurs, then I’ll use the most deadly force I can. It’s better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6. And that, genius, is commen sense.