I think your self respect IS worth fighting over. What if somebody grabbed your wifes ass? What if he slapped her. What if he spit in your face? None on these things are likely to happen, but what if they did? I would much rather deal with the consequences of whatever I do, than have to feel humiliated. You can stand up for yourself, in fact it’s the right thing to do.
[quote]40&Big wrote:
I think your self respect IS worth fighting over. What if somebody grabbed your wifes ass? What if he slapped her. What if he spit in your face? None on these things are likely to happen, but what if they did? I would much rather deal with the consequences of whatever I do, than have to feel humiliated. You can stand up for yourself, in fact it’s the right thing to do. [/quote]
Someone grabbing my wife’s ass isn’t reason enough to fight. I would hope I’d recognize a bad situation before it came to somebody slapping her, and get her the hell out of there. Same with somebody spitting in my face, I would have walked away long before it came to that. A LARGE part of learning how to fight, is learning when to fight. Learn to recognize a situation that’s going bad (much easier if your sober) and leave before it gets worse. A friend of mine damn near killed a guy in a bar fight. He just hit him three times, once standing, once on the way down, and once as he hit the ground. The guy had to be revived in the ambulance, and was in intensive care for over a week. My buddy went through a trail for assualt & attempted murder, was found innocent because the other guy threw the first punch. Even though he was innocent, it fucked up his life for years. All because some drunk was running his mouth & my buddy was protecting his “self respect”. If it ain’t worth killing over, then it ain’t worth fighting over.
Well, the beauty of being an American is that we have the right to have and express our own ideas, beliefs, and philosophys. While I don’t agree with your philosophy on this matter, I certainly respect it. It’s a matter of values. Our valuse are a result of our life experiences, among other things. And my life experiences have led me to have a fierce self respect. I don’t see many reasons to fight either. But I do feel a direct attack on my self respect does warrant a fight.
I’m not judging the stupidity of bar fights. That was used as an analogy (again you fail to grasp simple concepts). I’m just making a point of your previous post. A fight can happen anywhere. I’ve had people swing on me for no other reason than I am well built and some people are intimidated by that and feel they have to prove themselves by taking me down.
I’ve never started a fight in my life but as I said before, I’ve been in plenty.
So again I ask the question; are you going to walk away if someone clocks you unprovoked like a pussy? Or are you going to pull your big Colt .45 Gold Cup and shoot them?
And if you fight back what is your first move. That was the point of this thread to start with. Not who has the biggest gun.
Again; JEEZ, what a knucklehead.
[quote]assbuster wrote:
I’m not judging the stupidity of bar fights. That was used as an analogy (again you fail to grasp simple concepts). I’m just making a point of your previous post. A fight can happen anywhere. I’ve had people swing on me for no other reason than I am well built and some people are intimidated by that and feel they have to prove themselves by taking me down.
I’ve never started a fight in my life but as I said before, I’ve been in plenty.
So again I ask the question; are you going to walk away if someone clocks you unprovoked like a pussy? Or are you going to pull your big Colt .45 Gold Cup and shoot them?
And if you fight back what is your first move. That was the point of this thread to start with. Not who has the biggest gun.
Again; JEEZ, what a knucklehead.[/quote]
No need to be insulting. If somebody swings at me unprovoked, that is a threat to my life. I have no idea what his intentions are or how far he is willing to take the assault, so I assume his intentions are to beat me to death. If I’m carrying, I pull my Colt, & he most likely runs away. If I’m not, I fight like my life depends on it. Start by taking out his knees, throat, or eye-balls, whichever is most convienent, and continue until there is no longer a threat (ie. he ain’t getting back up).
Honestly their is no such thing as a best attack, strike or whatever. My best advice to anybody is to keep it simple. Never over think your own ability. Take this in mind your enemy or opponent is human being just like your self.
What might possibily hurt for you will obviously be the same for him or her (hey, this world is crazy you dont who might attack). So, again keep it simple and never doubt yourself because the man who thinks is the man who wins.
Oi!
The best thing I could hope for would be to redirect their energy.
I don’t like the idea of fighting that much and I lack the intent to really hurt someone unless I’m emotional or it’s neccessary. Avoiding bars, etc. helps.
[quote]40&Big wrote:
Prisons and graveyards are full of tough guys. As a former professional kickboxer, I can add this. Leg kicks are very efffective, but in a street fight, you’d never get enough in the be real effective. They are more used to wear a guy down, like chopping down a tree.
The reason boxers are trained to breathe through their noses is so that their mouth is not open. Yes, a punch to a closed jaw is much less effective than to an open one.
As far as a streetfight goes, I like to use my reach, jab a guy a few times and then unload with the big right hand. If I can land that punch, coming from a 255 pound guy that knows how to use his hips to punch, it is usually over.
It’s a matter of how ruthless you are. One good punch in the throat will put anybody down, but you run the risk of killing the guy. Once, a guy tried to fishhook me, and I bit his finger off. The police came to me and asked if I knew where it was. I told them I spit it out.
Basically, you do what you gotta do. And I have to add this. If the odds are definitly against you numbers wise, get the fuck out. I got my ass kicked by 6 guys when I was in high school, my two friends ran. My dad asked my why I didn’t run, I said “I was too proud to run”. He said “thats bullshit, you were too stupid to run”. There is no honor in getting your ass kicked![/quote]
40 do you mind if i ask who you are?
i think leg kicks are good in the streets.they’re alot like bodyshots.you get use to them when you’re taking them week after week.but for the average joe,they hurt.
if someguy is bumpin his gums and you have made up your mind you’re gonna go,talk to him.say “can’t we find another solution”?and when that cocksucker breaks out into his tuff guy act,as soon as the first syllable leaves his lips,nail him and don’t stop.
same with shoving matches.one guys shoves another,he shoves back,yadda,yadda,yadda.some guy shoves ya,either nail him on the spot or go into your treehugger mode.i love the treehugger mode because tuffguys and bullies never pass up the chance to humiliate someone with words like faggot,pussy,cunt,the usual fanfare.so when they hear you sounding passive,as they formulate their tirade,jump from treehugger to lumberjack.
and if you are not trying to prove your fighting prowess to anyone and you just want to save yourself,a good swift kick to da nuts will do fine.kick nuts,he bends over,you grab hair,you knee in his face.
[quote]ron33 wrote:
It depends on age also,a few months back some big a-hole tried to assault my 73 yr.old dad in the grocery store.He gave the guy a quick kick to the knee cap and fortunately the guy had to hobble off holding his knee.[/quote]
any pittsburgh ppl here?if so they’ll tell you.the first pittsburgh kid,billy conn.in his seventies,walks into a store.two guys try to rob it.billy lays a right hand on the one guy knocking him out,the other runs off.
those older cats were some tuff mofos.