Bench Max

As weak as your bench is now, you could foreseeably improve ALOT with constructive training.

Read Eric Cressey’s 7 reasons:

http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=964142

[quote]KombatAthlete wrote:
Kir Dog wrote:
KombatAthlete wrote:
I am not too keen on gaining that much more weight. I won my wreslint team’s award for most weight gained in the off-season, even though I wasn’t cutting weight (160-186) and I am about 5’9. If I gain too much weight I will be out of my weight class (189). November is when the season starts.

First off, you really don’t bench much for your body weight.

Second, you never really answered anyones questions. Such as, age and how long you’ve been working out.

Third, who really cares about bench press? Oh yeah, high school kids working on their ego.

Lastly, we are all on your side. We hope that you can achieve your goal. My suggestion, don’t waste your time trying for such an absurd bench that is very unprobable. You’re a wrestler. Benching has little to do with wrestling. Sure brute strength is good, but in wrestling you want to pull, not push. You want to work on back strength and power. You want to be able to pull your opponents limbs, not scare him with a nice pretty chest. Hip strength and speed is primary, pulling is secondary, besides your stamina and your mind.

I doubt I can change your mind and mentality, but this is my 3 cents…yes 3.

I have been working on leg and back strength for a while, as well as some pushing. My deadlift is about 2x my bench. I would never develop the bench press to the exclusion of the deadlift, bent-row, chin-up, squat variations, and similar exercises. I thought it would be good to go for some structural balance, and wrestling is very unpredicatble. You do push at times, such as in the collar-tie, and pushing should not be totally neglected. I am not your typical pretty boy with a big tits that can’t pull for shit. Another goal of mine is a 405 deadlift, and I barely ebbed out 315 x 3 at my last ME session. The dead I am almost positive I can make.
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I actually feel better now. Just to clarify, I didn’t want you to dedicate too much time benching and neglect other aspects of training that are equal to and better than bench for wrestling. As long as you can make great strides in everything else, up your bench.

I didn’t get your age but I’m assuming your a prep wrestler (15-17?). If you haven’t trained bench to long you can make great strides. Seeing that your 3 repping 160 still shows that there’s tons of room for improvement. Can you hit 275 by Nov? Nobody knows, all you can do is try…right? Your young and your body will do some incredible things, so go out and try.

[quote]Kir Dog wrote:
KombatAthlete wrote:
Kir Dog wrote:
KombatAthlete wrote:
I am not too keen on gaining that much more weight. I won my wreslint team’s award for most weight gained in the off-season, even though I wasn’t cutting weight (160-186) and I am about 5’9. If I gain too much weight I will be out of my weight class (189). November is when the season starts.

First off, you really don’t bench much for your body weight.

Second, you never really answered anyones questions. Such as, age and how long you’ve been working out.

Third, who really cares about bench press? Oh yeah, high school kids working on their ego.

Lastly, we are all on your side. We hope that you can achieve your goal. My suggestion, don’t waste your time trying for such an absurd bench that is very unprobable. You’re a wrestler. Benching has little to do with wrestling. Sure brute strength is good, but in wrestling you want to pull, not push. You want to work on back strength and power. You want to be able to pull your opponents limbs, not scare him with a nice pretty chest. Hip strength and speed is primary, pulling is secondary, besides your stamina and your mind.

I doubt I can change your mind and mentality, but this is my 3 cents…yes 3.

I have been working on leg and back strength for a while, as well as some pushing. My deadlift is about 2x my bench. I would never develop the bench press to the exclusion of the deadlift, bent-row, chin-up, squat variations, and similar exercises. I thought it would be good to go for some structural balance, and wrestling is very unpredicatble. You do push at times, such as in the collar-tie, and pushing should not be totally neglected. I am not your typical pretty boy with a big tits that can’t pull for shit. Another goal of mine is a 405 deadlift, and I barely ebbed out 315 x 3 at my last ME session. The dead I am almost positive I can make.

I actually feel better now. Just to clarify, I didn’t want you to dedicate too much time benching and neglect other aspects of training that are equal to and better than bench for wrestling. As long as you can make great strides in everything else, up your bench.

I didn’t get your age but I’m assuming your a prep wrestler (15-17?). If you haven’t trained bench to long you can make great strides. Seeing that your 3 repping 160 still shows that there’s tons of room for improvement. Can you hit 275 by Nov? Nobody knows, all you can do is try…right? Your young and your body will do some incredible things, so go out and try.[/quote]

Yep you guessed my age right. The main reason I care about my bench at all (ovehead press actually transfers more in the tie-up) is to get respect in the weight room from my team mates and coaches, as unfortunately it is the lift people tend to judge by. However, I think a deadlift with four plates on each side would silence everyone. I am probably going to use Mike Robertson’s Designer Athletes starting next week, slightly modified to favor the pulling muscles more.

[quote]KombatAthlete wrote:
I currently bench about 160 for a 3 RM. Would it be reasonable to shoot for a 275 bench press (1 RM) by November?[/quote]

You need to get one of those spotters who will “spot” you with 100 lbs while yelling “it’s all you”

[quote]jlesk68 wrote:
KombatAthlete wrote:
I currently bench about 160 for a 3 RM. Would it be reasonable to shoot for a 275 bench press (1 RM) by November?

You need to get one of those spotters who will “spot” you with 100 lbs while yelling “it’s all you”[/quote]

They are abundant in high school weight rooms.

[quote]KombatAthlete wrote:
I currently bench about 160 for a 3 RM. Would it be reasonable to shoot for a 275 bench press (1 RM) by November?[/quote]

Naturally by this November???
Hell no!!!
Chemically by this November???
Hell yeah!!!
So rephrase your question again and get us your stats

[quote]sensless wrote:
How much do you weigh and how long have you been training the bench press?

It is possible, but it wouldn’t be a common accomplishment.

regards,

Sensless[/quote]

If that is you in your avatar you like a complete and utter psychopath.

Good for you man