How are a few sets of curls gonna detract from developing a strength base?
I made the mistake of not doing enough for arms. I squat 408 and have only this last month gotten my arms over 15 inches. It looks fucking ridiculous man, and fixing it takes time. Beginners shouldn’t worry about weak points, but they shouldn’t create them either.
They won’t, but my point is that it will be easier for a beginner to make gains with a simple compound program like SS. Besides I can’t imagine your legs are THAT big if you’re squatting 400.
No, they’re not that big, but they are a few years ahead of my arms. That wouldn’t have happened with smarter training.
[quote]vali wrote:
They won’t, but my point is that it will be easier for a beginner to make gains with a simple compound program like SS. Besides I can’t imagine your legs are THAT big if you’re squatting 400.[/quote]
While you’re criticizing others… pics of the awesome physique you’ve created with your training philosophy?
I don’t see how I’m criticizing.
So…pics of your awesome physique?
Not achieved and irrelevant. However your avatar is a big upsetting to me. 
Not sure whyd you post a pic in your tightie whities, haha.
HAHAHAHAHA
[quote]vali wrote:
Not achieved [/quote]
Surely you’re bigger and more balanced than the people you are correcting and criticizing? You wouldn’t be claiming to know what works best when you haven’t actually achieved any significant progress, would you?
[quote]vali wrote:
but my point is that it will be easier for a beginner to make gains with a simple compound program [/quote]
And there is probably 600,000 different ways to set one up that helps people towards their goal.
Look, here is the thing:
High School Freshman lifting to try and make varsity - Yeah SS is going to be a good program for him to jump on
Kid that grew up watching Conan and wants to look like Phil Heath - Probably shouldn’t spend too much time if any on SS
Dude who is lifting to look better because he thinks it helps slay pussy - Maybe, maybe not do SS. Depends on a couple factors.
The program has some great core concepts & principles that EVERYONE can be better off for having exposure to. But to say everyone irrelevant of goals should hop on the program seems somewhat short sighted and lazy.
That is like saying both the kid that wants to be a plumber and the kid that wants to be a lawyer should both go to 4 year schools and get a degree, because everyone makes better money when they are educated. The plumber would be hurting his career by taking day classes, missing on-the-job training and incurring such large loans.
But look, 90%+ of people that start lifting are going to quit because most people are weak minded pussys. So, fuck it, tell everyone to do SS, it doesn’t matter. I can understand the desire to NOT want to work with each newb and tailor to each individuals goals, when most will quit on you once you put in that effort…
Starting Strength the book, personally, I thought was great. I would highly recommend it to any serious lifter.
Starting Strength the routine, however, is only really good for people who want to get good at… starting strength the routine.
Carryover well to bodybuilding? No. Strongman? No. Powerlifting? No, not very well at all. Sports? No.
[quote]mr popular wrote:
Starting Strength the book, personally, I thought was great. I would highly recommend it to any serious lifter.
Starting Strength the routine, however, is only really good for people who want to get good at… starting strength the routine.
Carryover well to bodybuilding? No. Strongman? No. Powerlifting? No, not very well at all. Sports? No.[/quote]
You are saying the same thing as Riptoe.
Cool.
this thread is horrible.
I have read and re - read this thread about three times now. I have it bookmarked.
I bought SS and followed it for nine months.
As a result I have been transformed. Into a big-butted spider.
perfect for halloween then