Ok your average 12oz beer has 150 calories 13g carbs 1.5g protein and absolutely no fat. My question how is this possible? obviously I am not a nutrition expert but, I was led to believe a gram of carbs and protein had 4 calories and a gram of fat has 9 calories… correct?
So how is it that if I take 13g of carbs 1.5g of protein I get 58 calories(4.5x4=58). Now there is no fat in beer so that is where the calories stop adding up. Where are the additional 100 calories coming from. Sorry if this a dumb question and I am missing something elementary but I am just nit getting it.
Industry is there to make money, so they put in front of your eyes what they want that you remember, to distract you for the others components of the equation. So , in addition to carbs and proteins, you must add the calories from alcohol.
Oh ok that’s nuts honestly did not know that I had no idea that alcohol its self actually had calories I just figured a Carb was a Carb. Well thanks for clearing that up makes alot more sense now.
[quote]kikimice wrote:
Alcool = 7 kcal/g not 4 kcal/g like carbs and prot[/quote]
and what the commercials that boast only 2g carb/ beer don’t tell you is that alcohol is the simplest sugar there is [/quote]
Alcohol isn’t digested as a sugar, it’s essentially a toxin and has to be processed in the liver and turned into acetate.
When alcohol is consumed, it passes from the stomach and intestines into the blood, a process referred to as absorption. Alcohol is then metabolized by enzymes, which are body chemicals that break down other chemicals. In the liver, an enzyme called alcohol dehydrogenase (ADH) mediates the conversion of alcohol to acetaldehyde. Acetaldehyde is rapidly converted to acetate by other enzymes and is eventually metabolized to carbon dioxide and water. Alcohol also is metabolized in the liver by the enzyme cytochrome P450IIE1 (CYP2E1), which may be increased after chronic drinking (3).
The problem with alcohol is that it shuts down other metabolic processes going on concurrently, so you don’t get your liver to continue processing carbohydrates or fats efficiently, until the alcohol has cleared your system. Depending upon the amount that you drink, you could end up with a large amount of macronutrients that are just circulating in your system waiting to be processed. (I’m not saying that it shuts all the way down, but it inhibits it.) So…if you’re trying to lose bodyfat, build muscle, those processes have to wait for the toxin to get absorbed first. That really kicks your metabolism in the teeth.
[quote]kikimice wrote:
Alcool = 7 kcal/g not 4 kcal/g like carbs and prot[/quote]
and what the commercials that boast only 2g carb/ beer don’t tell you is that alcohol is the simplest sugar there is [/quote]
Alcohol isn’t digested as a sugar, it’s essentially a toxin and has to be processed in the liver and turned into acetate.
When alcohol is consumed, it passes from the stomach and intestines into the blood, a process referred to as absorption. Alcohol is then metabolized by enzymes, which are body chemicals that break down other chemicals. In the liver, an enzyme called alcohol dehydrogenase (ADH) mediates the conversion of alcohol to acetaldehyde. Acetaldehyde is rapidly converted to acetate by other enzymes and is eventually metabolized to carbon dioxide and water. Alcohol also is metabolized in the liver by the enzyme cytochrome P450IIE1 (CYP2E1), which may be increased after chronic drinking (3).
The problem with alcohol is that it shuts down other metabolic processes going on concurrently, so you don’t get your liver to continue processing carbohydrates or fats efficiently, until the alcohol has cleared your system. Depending upon the amount that you drink, you could end up with a large amount of macronutrients that are just circulating in your system waiting to be processed. (I’m not saying that it shuts all the way down, but it inhibits it.) So…if you’re trying to lose bodyfat, build muscle, those processes have to wait for the toxin to get absorbed first. That really kicks your metabolism in the teeth.
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Gremlin[/quote]
Wouldn’t not eating while drinking, or minimizing… and fasting after drinking (12-16 hours) remedy most of this?
Lol…Jehova you’re fucking misinformtation gets worse daily. Ethanol is not a simple sugar…it’s not even chemically the same as a carbohydrate…wtf are you spewing to people on here?
Why do you consistently spout nonsense…do you not care whatsoever if some uneducated people or younger lifters pick up on your info and it’s wrong…it causes them to go nowhere…or worse hurt themselves somehow. I’m not saying this is the case exactly, but I think you should at least try to be somewhat accurate with your claims if you are going to put them out there for all to see. I call this concept responsibility.
Ethanol is seen by your body as a toxin…it has roughly 7kcal/g …when you ingest ethanol it basically goes to the front of the line as substrate because your body needs to rid you of it. This means that in simple terms…whatever you are ingesting along with it (AT THAT POINT IN TIME) will be put aside and stored…this doesn’t mean it leads to fat gain if your energy balance is negative after it is all said and done.
You can “fit” a beer or two into your macros. I don’t advise people to drink alcohol regularly just due to what I perceive as the addictive nature of the substance. But, it will not impede in progress if it’s a couple beers a few times a week and it FITS in your numbers…
Short answer: someone already addressed it…but, the “hidden” caloric content is via the ethanol in the beer…and like I said…7kcal/g. However…it can NEVER be stored in your body…so…it has to be utilized as substrate.
[quote]kikimice wrote:
Alcool = 7 kcal/g not 4 kcal/g like carbs and prot[/quote]
and what the commercials that boast only 2g carb/ beer don’t tell you is that alcohol is the simplest sugar there is [/quote]
Alcohol isn’t digested as a sugar, it’s essentially a toxin and has to be processed in the liver and turned into acetate.
When alcohol is consumed, it passes from the stomach and intestines into the blood, a process referred to as absorption. Alcohol is then metabolized by enzymes, which are body chemicals that break down other chemicals. In the liver, an enzyme called alcohol dehydrogenase (ADH) mediates the conversion of alcohol to acetaldehyde. Acetaldehyde is rapidly converted to acetate by other enzymes and is eventually metabolized to carbon dioxide and water. Alcohol also is metabolized in the liver by the enzyme cytochrome P450IIE1 (CYP2E1), which may be increased after chronic drinking (3).
The problem with alcohol is that it shuts down other metabolic processes going on concurrently, so you don’t get your liver to continue processing carbohydrates or fats efficiently, until the alcohol has cleared your system. Depending upon the amount that you drink, you could end up with a large amount of macronutrients that are just circulating in your system waiting to be processed. (I’m not saying that it shuts all the way down, but it inhibits it.) So…if you’re trying to lose bodyfat, build muscle, those processes have to wait for the toxin to get absorbed first. That really kicks your metabolism in the teeth.
what I meant is that it gets into the bloodstream rather quickly and will raise blood sugar…
“Ethanol is metabolized by the body as an energy-providing carbohydrate nutrient, as it metabolizes into acetyl CoA, an intermediate common with glucose metabolism, that can be used for energy in the citric acid cycle or for biosynthesis.” – from Wikipedia
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
what I meant is that it gets into the bloodstream rather quickly and will raise blood sugar…
“Ethanol is metabolized by the body as an energy-providing carbohydrate nutrient, as it metabolizes into acetyl CoA, an intermediate common with glucose metabolism, that can be used for energy in the citric acid cycle or for biosynthesis.” – from Wikipedia
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This is a nonsense statement, even if it is from wikipedia. Aspects of carbohydrate (pyruvate–>acetyl CoA occurs after glycolysis), fat (acetyl CoA generated from beta-oxidation goes into CAC), and amino acid metabolism (multiple amino acids enter the CAC through conversion steps to Acetyl CoA) all go through Acetyl CoA conversion before entering the CAC. This isn’t a criteria to define carbohydrate whatsoever.
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
what I meant is that it gets into the bloodstream rather quickly and will raise blood sugar…
“Ethanol is metabolized by the body as an energy-providing carbohydrate nutrient, as it metabolizes into acetyl CoA, an intermediate common with glucose metabolism, that can be used for energy in the citric acid cycle or for biosynthesis.” – from Wikipedia
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This is a nonsense statement, even if it is from wikipedia. Aspects of carbohydrate (pyruvate–>acetyl CoA occurs after glycolysis), fat (acetyl CoA generated from beta-oxidation goes into CAC), and amino acid metabolism (multiple amino acids enter the CAC through conversion steps to Acetyl CoA) all go through Acetyl CoA conversion before entering the CAC. This isn’t a criteria to define carbohydrate whatsoever.[/quote]
[quote]kikimice wrote:
Alcool = 7 kcal/g not 4 kcal/g like carbs and prot[/quote]
and what the commercials that boast only 2g carb/ beer don’t tell you is that alcohol is the simplest sugar there is [/quote]
Alcohol isn’t digested as a sugar, it’s essentially a toxin and has to be processed in the liver and turned into acetate.
When alcohol is consumed, it passes from the stomach and intestines into the blood, a process referred to as absorption. Alcohol is then metabolized by enzymes, which are body chemicals that break down other chemicals. In the liver, an enzyme called alcohol dehydrogenase (ADH) mediates the conversion of alcohol to acetaldehyde. Acetaldehyde is rapidly converted to acetate by other enzymes and is eventually metabolized to carbon dioxide and water. Alcohol also is metabolized in the liver by the enzyme cytochrome P450IIE1 (CYP2E1), which may be increased after chronic drinking (3).
The problem with alcohol is that it shuts down other metabolic processes going on concurrently, so you don’t get your liver to continue processing carbohydrates or fats efficiently, until the alcohol has cleared your system. Depending upon the amount that you drink, you could end up with a large amount of macronutrients that are just circulating in your system waiting to be processed. (I’m not saying that it shuts all the way down, but it inhibits it.) So…if you’re trying to lose bodyfat, build muscle, those processes have to wait for the toxin to get absorbed first. That really kicks your metabolism in the teeth.
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Gremlin[/quote]
Wouldn’t not eating while drinking, or minimizing… and fasting after drinking (12-16 hours) remedy most of this?
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it depends of how much you drink. just like training the more you put in the longer the recovery. it also changes many systems in the body, it takes the body awhile longer to reach true normal.
