Bargain Reverse Hyper?

Who else is missing the point?

McGill:
People hear sound bites when I’m asked about a specific situation and then they generalize. I usually have flexion motion in every program and this will surprise those people who are misinformed about our work.

McGill is missing the point?

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What’s up with you lately? I thought you were an intelligent guy.

Well, I’ve been playing cat and mouse enough in this topic now.

This is a 6 year old topic asking a question about which 2 reverse hypers to buy. You came in and posted something about Dr McGill that was immaterial to the question. I replied with a quick joke because it was a silly thing you posted, and you’ve been filibustering since.

You bring up people “missing the point”, but you missed the point of the topic entirely, and continued to do so with each post.

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Maybe it’s your fault for engaging me in a debate. You could have just said that you aren’t here to debate whether or not the reverse hyper is good or bad or high risk, but rather to compare different models. My concern was that someone would read this and start doing reverse hyper and injure themselves as a result, they should at least have the relevant information to make in informed decision, whether you agree with that information or not.

Maybe, but maybe it is because of GMOs.

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Not to divert from the McGill tangent… because I have no idea who he is and don’t much care.

How often do you use your reverse hyper? We bought one as a Christmas gift to ourselves. We got it from a Canadian manufacturer and paid approximately $680 including tax and shipping. It has the rollers rather than the strap and is a slightly different construction in that there are hinges/joints in the main lever so if you have shorter legs, the arm bends to suit but then you have the same issue as with a strap in that you can bend your legs.

Although mine is less expensive than most, it’s the most expensive piece of equipment we’ve purchased and I use it every time we train. Monday’s I go heavy and Wednesday’s and Fridays light for one large finisher set at the end of training. It’s my $700 ass machine.

Did you find it helpful in a significant way with lower back pain and carryover with any of your lifts? I get lower back pain when I sit too long and am hoping that it will help with that somewhat.

From the Peanut Gallery;

-If you’re stuck in lower back-extension, or APT, McGill’s 3 moves are super effective to fix your alignment.

-Opinion: When you use the Reverse Hyper you want many spine joints to work together. If there is Flexion, you want just a little over many disks instead of dramatic kinking, or impingment, of one spine joint. Like any movement, there is “technique.”

If you do sloppy, ugly birddogs you can irritate your lower back pretty quickly.

Has anyone tried to elevate one end of the Reverse Hyper so you’re laying a little down hill? Would it be harder to bend your knees and cheat if your body was angled differently?

God, I love the internet.

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When my focus was powerlifting, I was using it twice a week. I’d stick to 8-12 reps for 4 sets. When I transitioned to strongman, my time got compressed since I had to focus on bringing up more skills, so it went to once a week. And, at present, while I prep for a strongman competition, my training is very heavily events focused, so for the past 5 weeks it’s been out of my programming, but I finally found a place to sneak it in. For now, I’m sticking with light loading and high rep sets.

It was also really big during my ACL rehab, since it was some of the only lower back stuff I could do. I did unweighted ones for 100-200 reps for a while until I had enough faith in the knee to handle some loading.

I never really had lower back pain proper to speak of, but I’d get twinges during lifts that would set me back. Once I started up the reverse hyper, the twinges were far less frequent. Carryover to lifts was massive though. My lowerback ended up getting so strong that it actually changed my mechanics on deadlifts and I found myself relying on lowerback for lockouts. I had to change back to a hip hinge, but it was still a pretty cool side effect.

@FlatsFarmer Always appreciate your varied knowledge on these topics. Never tried angling the RH. That might actually solve my issue with it bucking under heavy loads.

@ActivitiesGuy it never fails to impress, haha.

Anything to keep this discussion on track and productive.

If I could pick a group of TNation posters to talk to about Reverse Hypers, I would probably pick this group. Everyone is is either strong enough, experienced enough or cantankerous enough to have valid info/opinions.

Interesting idea. Mine starts to rock under heavier loads as well. I get my husband to stand on one of the front supports and that works well. Lacking a husband, tilting might work well too :slight_smile:

Thanks for the feedback. Since I started using it, my deadlift is a bit more difficult. I wondered if I was doing too much. My squat, however, is feeling stronger than normal. It might be unrelated.

I weigh mine down with heavy dumbbells right now. If I were super serious, I’d install some weight pegs on it and use it as a combination weight tree/stabilization device.

Your deadlift might be going through the same change I did. As the lower back gets stronger, you may be unconsciously shifting to use it.

You said you prefer rollers to straps correct? How do you get that decompression from your legs going underneath the machine with the rollers?

That decompression at the bottom when the legs swing under was a fucking godsend to me having a buldging disc and other low back problems from non related lifting injuries (and probably a few from actually lifting ha). I’ve never felt more solid after doing reverse hyper style movements, glute ham raises, and hyperextensions weight/unweighted. Just meant as an aside for anyone looking for more success with said movement.

Same as with a strap. The roller shouldn’t really get in the way of that.

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This happened to me as well after doing what I posted above. I had to shift from the bar being mid foot, to around the base of my toes in order to get my hips in. Otherwise, I’ll just tank the load and brute my way up with my back haha

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Okay cool, thanks.

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