EDIT: Here is my latest update. Managed 635 for 4 reps touch and go.
Didn’t feel like this really fit with powerlifting, so wanted to post it here. I’ve talked a few times on here about how I train deads, but wanted to get a video up.
I sped up the rest times to 8x speed, but it’s about 2 minutes between pulls. I shoot for total number of reps in a session when I train. Found a lot of success building the dead this way.
Bodyweight here is 198lbs, and I managed this after driving 5.5 hours (to include LA traffic) and being sick, haha.
Awesome pull! I saw that you competed in a strongman contest not so long ago. Do you plan on competing again anytime soon? Also I would love to see how you map out your deadlift training. Thanks.
[quote]GetLethal wrote:
Awesome pull! I saw that you competed in a strongman contest not so long ago. Do you plan on competing again anytime soon? Also I would love to see how you map out your deadlift training. Thanks.[/quote]
Thanks man. I posted in that thread again, but to sum it up, I will be competing in another strongman contest on 8 Feb. It will have last man standing deadlift as an event, so I’m very excited about that.
I can’t link to my blog here, but I covered my entire training approach in a post titled “The Mythical Strength Method”, written on 8 Dec. If you google it, you should find it. To summarize it, I make extensive use of range of motion progression, which I detailed here
This cycle started with me managing 14 reps at 7 mats high, and I cut down to 7 at the end. For DL assistance work, I hammer safety squat bar squats with chains, reverse hypers, glute ham raises/sit ups, rows and ab wheel.
[quote]mbdix wrote:
Dude, that’s bad ass. Very Impressive[/quote]
Thanks guys, much appreciated.
Get Lethal: Some other aspects of DL training I forgot to mention is the fact that I pull exclusively touch and go and with straps in training. I’ve written about both on my blog if you want to see a real extensive overview, but for touch and go, I appreciated the technique because it allows me to move a heavier weight for more reps than if I were to pull deadstop. To me, that has more value in developing strength. For straps, I appreciate how I can focus far more on the deadlift itself rather than worrying about maintaining my grip, and it also allows me to pull double overhead in training and minimize risks of injury.
I’ve been doing these for a couple weeks now since my deadlift meet on your recommendation. I wanted to try something different in deadlift training for the next one. Can’t tell too much yet of course, but so far I am loving it. It feels like I can hit the deadlifting muscles a lot more than I can doing deadstop.
Great article. It’s funny, I’ve talked about the benefits of touch and gos before and been called all sorts of nasty names for it, but there are a ton of big pullers that swear by the technique. I’m glad Stve Goggins was able to get his thoughts on there on it.
Your experience is very similar to mine, it really just feels like a deadlift builder rather than deadlift practice.
Great article. It’s funny, I’ve talked about the benefits of touch and gos before and been called all sorts of nasty names for it, but there are a ton of big pullers that swear by the technique. I’m glad Stve Goggins was able to get his thoughts on there on it.
Your experience is very similar to mine, it really just feels like a deadlift builder rather than deadlift practice.[/quote]
I still can’t understand the general mindset about supportive gear. Yes, it helps you lift more weight, but that’s the whole point of lifting weights, right? I always used to get shat on at my gym for using a belt, straps and chalk. Those same guys are still deadlifting 300 lbs with paper towels on their hands, and stalling out at that weight because “grip” issues that they never got past in years.
I think the anti gear crowd should just lift rocks, because a barbell helps you balance and grip onto an unnatural amount of weight…
I still can’t understand the general mindset about supportive gear. Yes, it helps you lift more weight, but that’s the whole point of lifting weights, right? I always used to get shat on at my gym for using a belt, straps and chalk. Those same guys are still deadlifting 300 lbs with paper towels on their hands, and stalling out at that weight because “grip” issues that they never got past in years.
I think the anti gear crowd should just lift rocks, because a barbell helps you balance and grip onto an unnatural amount of weight…[/quote]
I generally find it stems from an inability to separate training from competition. People tend to make training THE competition, and impose rules and restrictions on what is and is not “allowed” in training. I found out that this video got posted on 4 chan’s fitness forum with someone pretending they were me, and it was full of critiques about how the lifts “didn’t count” or were “illegal”, ignoring the reality that the purpose of this was to become stronger, not win a competition.
I used to think the same way too. I HAD to do a lift a certain way, or else I wasn’t doing the lift. Eventually, I realized that the whole point was about getting bigger and stronger, and as long as that was happening, my training was working.
Thank you for your input. I compete at the 175 and 200 pound weight classes and the deadlift is my worst event by far so it is nice to see how strong pullers like yourself train.
[quote]GetLethal wrote:
Thank you for your input. I compete at the 175 and 200 pound weight classes and the deadlift is my worst event by far so it is nice to see how strong pullers like yourself train.[/quote]
Be happy to share anything I know if you have any more specific questions. I made a video specifically on my deadlift technique you might find helpful
Years of powerlifting have really helped my static strength, but my footwork and coordination are a mess. I’m still just brute forcing every event, haha.
I still can’t understand the general mindset about supportive gear. Yes, it helps you lift more weight, but that’s the whole point of lifting weights, right? I always used to get shat on at my gym for using a belt, straps and chalk. Those same guys are still deadlifting 300 lbs with paper towels on their hands, and stalling out at that weight because “grip” issues that they never got past in years.
I think the anti gear crowd should just lift rocks, because a barbell helps you balance and grip onto an unnatural amount of weight…[/quote]
I generally find it stems from an inability to separate training from competition. People tend to make training THE competition, and impose rules and restrictions on what is and is not “allowed” in training. I found out that this video got posted on 4 chan’s fitness forum with someone pretending they were me, and it was full of critiques about how the lifts “didn’t count” or were “illegal”, ignoring the reality that the purpose of this was to become stronger, not win a competition.
I used to think the same way too. I HAD to do a lift a certain way, or else I wasn’t doing the lift. Eventually, I realized that the whole point was about getting bigger and stronger, and as long as that was happening, my training was working.
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Im guilty of this, I have always followed the idea of practice how you play with regards to training for meets and so on. I am slowly starting to change this ideal, I was probably a bit too dogmatic in my approach. Now as I am getting old(er) and thinking a bit more outside of my box it may help me stay in the game longer.
Im guilty of this, I have always followed the idea of practice how you play with regards to training for meets and so on. I am slowly starting to change this ideal, I was probably a bit too dogmatic in my approach. Now as I am getting old(er) and thinking a bit more outside of my box it may help me stay in the game longer.[/quote]
I fell into the same trap for the same reasoning. Amazingly, it was philosophy that helped me get in the right direction. Machiavelli’s idea of adapting to the changing tides of fortune and being able to be wicked when it is needed was big on me understanding the idea of doing what is needed WHEN it is needed to make progress. Plato’s surgeon metaphor also helped me realize that a good lifter is not a lifter who always abides by certain principles, but simply one who is good at lifting, regardless of how they accomplish it.
There was a lot more. I actually wrote up a little mini-series in my blog going over how social contract theory is a metaphor for the evolution of training. It’s weird the direction things go when a meathead studies philosophy.
