from Josh Barnett’s most recent grappling competition…
This is textbook Snake Pit type shit. Watch at like 1:10 or something when the guy tries to get out of side control and he just re-rolls his hips on him. The pressure he put on the guy is redic too…
anyway there’s vids of his other matches thru the link
Is this josh barnett?
lol yes…
Yo, long time no see, thanks for the video…
Really good good shit.
Josh has great hips, ‘heavy’ when he needs
but fine control.
good stuff, thanks for sharing
As someone who knows dick-all about martial arts, can someone explain to me how catch wrestling differs from BJJ?
[quote]PimpBot5000 wrote:
As someone who knows dick-all about martial arts, can someone explain to me how catch wrestling differs from BJJ? [/quote]
its basically folk style wrestling with holds… can’t choke.
It’s a little more than just folk style with subs, but that is pretty close to what you see stylistically for the most part. You have to know what you’re looking for.
For the history of catch wrestling check the wikipedia page:
Now what you would be seeing stylistically that is different if you watched catch wrestlers vs bjj guys are the following:
For the most part submissions are submissions. But you’ll see interesting variations from bjj and catch. Hell there are variations from school to school. Catch has a lot more stylistic stuff and some moves that are pretty risky. BJJ does too. But a GOOD catch game and good bjj game are both based around high percentage moves.
Tsubo points. Stuff that’s sometimes considered “dirty”, or you only do in tourneys, or that you only see higher level guys trying out regularly… that’s pretty much how catch guys start all subs. You see josh using it where he’ll rub his elbow point into the guys bicep to make him react then he can CATCH the sub. Or poking them in the rib, or rubbing your chin in their temple, etc. In folkstyle wrestling all these little “dirty” techniques are part of the competitive atmosphere, but in BJJ schools they’re sometimes frowned upon, in catch wrestling that’s just how you’re SUPPOSED to perform the maneuver.
Catch will usually have better takedowns, not folk style good, but better than most BJJ schools usually emphasize. The takedowns also will be kind of stylish sometimes. It is the root of pro-wrestling.
Catch has a huge emphasis on HIPS-PRESSURE and smashing your opponent with your leverage. In BJJ schools I’ve noticed that they teach you the position but don’t emphasize pining your opponent to the ground with your weight the way Catch does. Before you even learn a submission or even any real positioning/transitioning, the first thing you’re going to do is learn how to make your opponent carry ALL your weight. From side control i should be able to tell you, “count to three” and between 1 and 2 I should make your voice change from the strain of carrying my weight. A lot of high level BJJ guys have this talent, and there are a couple places I’m sure that harp on it (machado’s and i believe cesar gracie are big on it as well)… but in catch it’s what you learn day ONE.
Basically no guard game. Well at least it’s not highly advanced like say 10th planet or something. There are armbars, triangles, and a myriad of sweeps, but that is because the emphasis is on NOT getting pinned and getting your ass up as soon as possible. So there are more transitions OUT of that position. Which has a larger benefit strategy-wise in MMA. Because even if you have an extremely dangerous guard game, you put yourself at a slight disadvantage because of the striking involved. Even Aoki and Nogueira take damage.
There’s a few BJJ schools with this emphasis, and a couple abu dhabi level BJJ guys have come out recently as saying that is there entire strategy for wins.
… I was going to list some other stuff but I think the best example you could get is Kazushi Sakuraba, whoever made this video is a genius. Great ass video that breaks down catch pretty well. Saku is one of the last great catch guys. Hopefully he retires soon while he’s still relatively healthy and Hopefully we have a few more good catch based guys coming up through the ranks.
Catch Wrestling: A study of Kazushi Sakuraba
Yoshiofdeath: “Having had the honor of training with the same coach who trained Sakuraba (Billy Robinson), I wanted to study Saku’s most technical match (with Carlos Newton) and compare training notes, basically.It’s PURE Catch-as-Catch-Can Wrestling.”
H could have easily went for a few good throws with the head control in the beginning. Josh’s opponent didnt work hard at all. What a damn shame. Josh didnt even have to work for that match.
[quote]Xen Nova wrote:
It’s a little more than just folk style with subs, but that is pretty close to what you see [/quote]
Thanks for that explanation