And also, the last 43 or so Presidents (actually 42) in a row have also been white. Also, CNN’s missing girl of the week has been white ever since Lacy Petersen. I wonder if there’s a genetic explanation.
I think a lot of this has to do with the determination to succeed.
A good portion of the successful black athletes were poor at one point. Our country is pretty shitty about providing a solid education / opportunity for them to get out of where they are. It only costs 5 bucks to buy a basketball, and you can run sprints without shoes. At that age, all you know is that this is one way to get yourself out of where you are. They practice hard and they get better.
Scientists have shown the muscle biopsy comparisons of black and white americans, but I still think its a load of shit. As with any sport its mostly about determination to succeed than genetic potential.
Most white Americans will grow up playing multiple sports because in general they have the money to spend on the ridiculous equiptment costs for sports like Hockey. They will continue to play these multiple sports throughout high school never really choosing a sport and focusing on it so they never really get GREAT at it.
Success is about determination and the drive to work. You’ve got to keep practicing to get better. When its the only shot you’ve got you tend to have a different work ethic.
They practice harder and at a younger age.
I think that it’s genetics.
Like black people came originally from Africa and in the past they were hunters and fast runners so they could escape wild animals or hunt them (some still do).
Asian people where good in sports that needed coordination, flexibillty or high concentration. Like gymnastics, or ping-pong. Some of these sports have a looooong tradition in Asian countries so it’s normal that they developed natural predisposition for that kind of sports.
White folks had an advantage since Europe was leading territory in the past, and so different sports like tennis, swimming (I believe that ther’s some resarch that showed that white people have different muscle stucture that enables them to swimm faster and flote more easilly)and different ball sports developed sooner than in the rest of the world. Europe was cradle of soccer, basketball, volleyball, handball ect. and other team sports. I believe that the white folks developed some sort of leadership and team work. (that’s why u can’t see black man in hockey couse’ in order to score u need to pass the pack :), and we all know that the black man ain’t gonna pass no pack to the white dude! 'no offence)Thats why I think that the white people aint so good at individual sports that have all threee races competing.
That’s just my 2 cents…
[quote]benchaffleck wrote:
I’ve seen black guys who never work out, eat crappy food all day long, and have ripped abs and striated delts.[/quote]
For every one of those black guys I will show you a fat black guy and a white kid with the same genetic ability…
[quote]HvRv wrote:
I think that it’s genetics.
Like black people came originally from Africa and in the past they were hunters and fast runners so they could escape wild animals or hunt them (some still do).
Asian people where good in sports that needed coordination, flexibillty or high concentration. Like gymnastics, or ping-pong. Some of these sports have a looooong tradition in Asian countries so it’s normal that they developed natural predisposition for that kind of sports.
White folks had an advantage since Europe was leading territory in the past, and so different sports like tennis, swimming (I believe that ther’s some resarch that showed that white people have different muscle stucture that enables them to swimm faster and flote more easilly)and different ball sports developed sooner than in the rest of the world. Europe was cradle of soccer, basketball, volleyball, handball ect. and other team sports. I believe that the white folks developed some sort of leadership and team work. (that’s why u can’t see black man in hockey couse’ in order to score u need to pass the pack :), and we all know that the black man ain’t gonna pass no pack to the white dude! 'no offence)Thats why I think that the white people aint so good at individual sports that have all threee races competing.
That’s just my 2 cents…
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wow…
The ignorance is astounding sometimes…
Bruce Lee - 1/8 Caucasian the rest Cantonese. Bruce Lee was ripped beyond beief, fast as hellm, very strong for his size, great reflexes and coordintion.
Bruce Lee gets my vote for best athlete and he is not black.
(This is nothing against black persons, thought , whatsoever. Much respect to all people
Just trying to point out Bruce Lee was great because he was Bruce Lee.
[quote]Razwell wrote:
Bruce Lee - 1/8 Caucasian the rest Cantonese. Bruce Lee was ripped beyond beief, fast as hellm, very strong for his size, great reflexes and coordintion.
Bruce Lee gets my vote for best athlete and he is not black.
(This is nothing against black persons, thought , whatsoever. Much respect to all people
Just trying to point out Bruce Lee was great because he was Bruce Lee. [/quote]
This is too good to be true!
I haven’t read all 150+ posts to this thread, so apologies if this has already been mentioned.
I think that slavery plays a role here. Think about it. When slave traders were selecting their victims, they would select the strongest and healthiest. After this selection, they were hoarded onto ships and had to undergo a long voyage under the most brutal of conditions. So, of this initial ‘fit’ selection, only the strongest would survive. Then, after arriving at their new destination (America, West Indies, etc), they would be put to the most physically demanding work (sugar and cotton plantations, etc).
So, what you have here is an artificial selection process, which at every step in the chain, favoured the strongest and healthiest. You then had repeated intermarriage within this pre-selected gene pool, without much mixing with the host population.
Perhaps this means that, amongst the slave-descendent populations (America, West Indies, Europe), you have a higher concentration of people with overall better genetics (in athletic terms) that the general host population.
Just a guess. Perhaps its nature’s way of laughing at slave-owning populations.
Yeah, but how do you explain that African athletes are also very succesfull. Perhaps because they are so fast they managed to escape the slavers?
Anyway, certain African types have lower body fat and longer limbs than the average white guy. This gives them a distinct advantage.
And there’s the cultural think of course. Remember when the Italians had all the good boxers?
[quote]brucevangeorge wrote:
deshawn wrote:
Why the does this bullshit always have to come up. You guys are always having this black versus white thing going on.
Yeah! That’s right! What the hell guys?!!
You ALWAYS do this stuff! First it’s white against black. Then it’s fat chicks vs skinny chicks, and religion vs science! WHEN WILL THE MADNESS END!!!
Why can’t we all just find our happy place and just get along?[/quote]
you people dont understand that ITS FORUM.if you dont want to discuss,please,ignore the thread and leave us. what are you doing then in this thread.
i just cant figure this people out.
its like you go to the disco and then complain that the music is playing and you cant hear vegetables growing.
thats bullshit.
white voleyball players jump higher than nba players.
athleticism has nothing to do with race.race is a cultural and not a scientific term.have you read latest scientific reports.
[quote]BALBOS wrote:
athleticism has nothing to do with race.race is a cultural and not a scientific term.have you read latest scientific reports.
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That is entirely true. If someone looks at the mitochondrial DNA there is very little variation among the human race. There is more variation within a small group of monkeys than the entire population of humans on the planet. Not enough variation to create a dominant athletic race, social differences may cause race dominance.
Also, mitochondrial DNA is considered to be 100% from the mother, so that would support the idea that the entire human race came from a small group, somewhere, at some point (read that however you want).
WE’RE ALL AFRICANS ! ! ! ,-)
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
WE’RE ALL AFRICANS ! ! ! ,-)[/quote]
A strange way of putting it, but in a way (according to the most widely accepted scientific model) you are right.
[quote]magblue wrote:
That is entirely true. If someone looks at the mitochondrial DNA there is very little variation among the human race. There is more variation within a small group of monkeys than the entire population of humans on the planet. Not enough variation to create a dominant athletic race, social differences may cause race dominance.[/quote]
This seems like a strange argument, since clearly there is enough variation to create a dominant sunburn-resistant race. Are the genetic mechanisms that control other physical qualities so different?
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
Yeah, but how do you explain that African athletes are also very succesfull. Perhaps because they are so fast they managed to escape the slavers?
Anyway, certain African types have lower body fat and longer limbs than the average white guy. This gives them a distinct advantage.
And there’s the cultural think of course. Remember when the Italians had all the good boxers?[/quote]
i must have african parents cause my wing span is 6ft2 at 5ft8.
africans dont dominate sport, they dominate a few sports, the majority of sports are white dominated, this has nothing to do with genes, just sociological factors.
shut up and squat lol.
I’ve only read about half of this thread, and I’m no scientist, but I have made an observation on the matt for myself. I attend a white school in an area that consists of many mostly-white schools. In track, if the other team has a black sprinter, he is always the best one on the team. I can think of six or seven schools in the area that have only one black sprinter, and I haven’t seen any exceptions. However, the fastest 100M sprinter in the county is white.
Am I saying that white people can’t be fast? No.
Am I saying that all black people are faster than all white people? Obviously not, since white sprinters beat black ones plenty of times. However, in my experience, it seems as though a higher proportion of blacks have the genetics for muscle and speed than whites.
This could be coincidence, could be correlation - I’m not sure. Just stating how it is around here.
For us white guys, it’s ALL about the intake of yams! Down em’ amap & you’ll thank me later. 
[quote]Razwell wrote:
Bruce Lee - 1/8 Caucasian the rest Cantonese. Bruce Lee was ripped beyond beief, fast as hellm, very strong for his size, great reflexes and coordintion.
Bruce Lee gets my vote for best athlete and he is not black.
(This is nothing against black persons, thought , whatsoever. Much respect to all people
Just trying to point out Bruce Lee was great because he was Bruce Lee. [/quote]
Your a fucking genius & 100% totally correct with this statement! U da man!