[quote]pushharder wrote:
Just bought the book you recommended, edgy.[/quote]
Mwuahahahaha…
Just went through the full 5 pages of this thread.
As a 19 year old kid it’s great to have that kind of info about relationships provided.
Way better than all the teeny mags that tell us guys to be “sensitive” and just like uhm … what was the sissy called starring in these horrible vampire movies? yea exactly this guy.
Please keep this stuff up.
[quote]Quiet Warrior wrote:
Just went through the full 5 pages of this thread.
As a 19 year old kid it’s great to have that kind of info about relationships provided.
Way better than all the teeny mags that tell us guys to be “sensitive” and just like uhm … what was the sissy called starring in these horrible vampire movies? yea exactly this guy.
Please keep this stuff up.[/quote]
I envy you.
Had I known this stuff at 19…
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Just bought the book you recommended, edgy.[/quote]
you could have wrote that book, sensei ~
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
Edgy I actually completely agree that women (in my experience) want to be dominated. I think it has to due with evolutionary psych, the dominant “alpha” males have got the ability to provide and have great DNA to offer.
The issue with her was that she THOUGHT she didn’t want to be dominated and tried to control the relationship as such (daddy issues). In the end I just had to get out of there, no amount of being dominant could’ve saved me.
Honestly given the no-sex problem again, I would give it a few weeks of maybe some behavior changing and communication about the problem, and then would leave. Life is too short not to get laid. I’m not sure how I’d deal with the problem in marriage. Hopefully dating for a few years before marriage could serve as a filter for that kind of behavior.[/quote]
You know I’ve actually started a more dominant style over the past month, attitude-wise, towards women.
I’ve done the ignorant asswipe and total dickhead versions which brought me a smile when dealing with utter, UTTER cunts but those do not get you laid.
I dont believe in having sex with 100s of women, STDs put paid to those dreams but from what I have done so far;
- Got laid 3 times out of simple approaches. They weren’t drunk
- Got better responses on Okcupid.
Now with okcupid I bombed on there once, a year ago if I remember but now I have several conversations on the go with women from different backgrounds. I’m not saying I’ll have sex with them but four of them gave me their number and are responsive.
I didnt get these results from the “hiya, just looked at your profile and…” lines. I’ve found women are more open to straight talking bullshit than I used to believe.
I even told two women they look crazy and should consider a dog to bounce ideas off before putting it on their profile. lol
[quote]Quiet Warrior wrote:
Just went through the full 5 pages of this thread.
As a 19 year old kid it’s great to have that kind of info about relationships provided.
Way better than all the teeny mags that tell us guys to be “sensitive” and just like uhm … what was the sissy called starring in these horrible vampire movies? yea exactly this guy.
Please keep this stuff up.[/quote]
If anyone tells you to be “sensitive” towards women you want to have sex with, they’re cockblocking you.
If anyone says “ask a woman what she wants” they’ve never had more than 1/2 sexual partners and are cockblocking you.
The guy in twilight is not as unique as you think.
In the UK the boy bands were the “ideal” swoon tool for young women and cougars who like young meat. A band known as JLS with black/mixed race guys were popular with women who didn’t even like black/mixed race men. What does that say about the female brain?
Take a normal guy, good looks and at least the ability to talk to women face-to-face and then plonk him in a movie or reality TV show.
Fame makes women wet for all the wrong reasons.
Orion, you definitely should. I used a couple of TC’s articles to start conversations with chicks from my university. I even stole some of his jokes that I never thought a girl would find funny. LOL
Harrypotter:
Thank you man, I believe the guy from Twilight is metrosexuality at its worst.
They dont know what they want and are easily influenced by what the media forces them to believe as male ideal?
[quote]
Fame makes women wet for all the wrong reasons.[/quote]
So how do you make a woman wet for all the right reasons? Without fame?
(Question of the century)
[quote]Quiet Warrior wrote:
Orion, you definitely should. I used a couple of TC’s articles to start conversations with chicks from my university. I even stole some of his jokes that I never thought a girl would find funny. LOL
[/quote]
Should what?
[quote]
So how do you make a woman wet for all the right reasons? Without fame?
(Question of the century)[/quote]
By forgetting about women for a while and trying to shake the cultural programming of a gynolatric society.
[quote]orion wrote:
Should what?
[/quote]
i was refering to this quote
gynolatric society means “women worshipping society” right?
Thank you.
[quote]Quiet Warrior wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
Should what?
[/quote]
i was refering to this quote
gynolatric society means “women worshipping society” right?
Thank you.[/quote]
Soooooo…
Imma go build a time maschine and become 19 again?
[quote]orion wrote:
Soooooo…
Imma go build a time maschine and become 19 again?[/quote]
Hahaha. You definitely should envy him I guess is what he means. Fuck you he’s got your knowledge now you old bastard!
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
Eye rolling…Orion, no way am I gong to try to speak for everyone with two x chromosomes. There were some interesting facts about the chemistry involved, and emotional and communication differences between the sexes.
BTW, I like you Orion.
Maybe this is a good time to admit that Orion is actually my troll account.
It seems so obvious. I can’t believe nobody figured it out yet!
<<<<<<---------- If you are wondering what Orion looks like. And he lifts like a girl. [/quote]
Oh, so you smoke a shit load of pot and live in Austria? Who knew.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
Soooooo…
Imma go build a time maschine and become 19 again?[/quote]
Hahaha. You definitely should envy him I guess is what he means. Fuck you he’s got your knowledge now you old bastard![/quote]
naaaa, he doesnt.
20 years of experience, in and out of the bedroom.
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
About dominance - How about this scenario? This is from my BFF. She has taken a very pragmatic approach, and I think it’s fairly egalitarian. This is a marriage of about 10 years. She decided that, baring physical illness, she would never say no. Never. And her husband does the same for her. He never tells her no. I asked her how they decided on this strategy, and her reasons were that she noticed that sex becomes a point of contention in a lot of marriages, so she decided to try to avoid that in her own. Purely pragmatic. And funny, because there isn’t necessarily a lot of seduction going on. Either can just say, “You want to?” and the other person will say “Sure.” Now, it’s not entirely equal because her husband still initiates sex more often. Maybe you all can read that as he’s still dominant. He is dominant in a lot of other ways, so maybe his need to dominate is met. Does this scenario work for you guys?
As an aside, I asked her what she thought about relationships where the woman initiates sex most often, or nearly all the time. She said she thinks that usually happens as a result of the man being rejected enough so he stops trying, and takes the “Getting rejected is not working, so I guess she can ask me approach.” I’ve only seen that in one other friend, but I had to agree. In that situation, the man got turned down nearly all the time, so he finally just stopped asking. And so sex slowed down for them to about once or twice a month, when she would finally ask him. Not sexless, but less than ideal for most people. Recently, this friend told me that her husband pulled her aside one day and said something like “We’re in our forties now, and we’ve missed out on a lot of good times. Those years are gone, and we can never get them back. Part of me really resents you. It could have been a lot better.” OUCH - Not something you want your life partner to say to you. As in “Hey, you are my person. I trusted you to want to be with me, and to meet these basic emotional/ physical needs, and it could have made US a lot better and you blew it.”
EDIT: I think I’ve run out of good stories, and am at the end of my insight on this topic. I’m a school psychologist, not a Marriage counselor :). Soo, not the expert, but I do think all the layers of this in terms of the bio-chemistry, as well as the ways different people handle intimacy in their long term relationships is interesting. Some open discussion can be good. I often learn something. Thanks everybody for such thoughtful and frank responses.
[/quote]
This has been kind of a pet peeve of mine about women for a looong time. I hear them talk at parties with pride about how much they reject sex and how they are constantly wanted. For me it allowed me to develop an iron will. A took passive aggressive approach. If I heard this kind of shit, I would avoid sex like the plague. I figured if it’s such a hassle, fuck it. Far be it from me to be a hassle. Don’t like sex? Fine we won’t have it. No biggie. So next time you talk to your friends you can tell them that you haven’t been bothered and life is good.
If girls don’t like sex so much, why don’t they just stay virgins? They talk like it’s annoying and such a pain. Nobody is forcing you.
One thing I realized is that girls take it waaay more personal if you turn them down for sex than the opposite. Well, if you don’t want to be turned down, then don’t complain that people want to fuck you. I don’t like a challenge, it doesn’t turn me on, it doesn’t make me try harder, it does nothing but piss me off. I will never give chase. Life’s to short for that.
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
About dominance - How about this scenario? This is from my BFF. She has taken a very pragmatic approach, and I think it’s fairly egalitarian. This is a marriage of about 10 years. She decided that, baring physical illness, she would never say no. Never. And her husband does the same for her. He never tells her no. I asked her how they decided on this strategy, and her reasons were that she noticed that sex becomes a point of contention in a lot of marriages, so she decided to try to avoid that in her own. Purely pragmatic. And funny, because there isn’t necessarily a lot of seduction going on. Either can just say, “You want to?” and the other person will say “Sure.” Now, it’s not entirely equal because her husband still initiates sex more often. Maybe you all can read that as he’s still dominant. He is dominant in a lot of other ways, so maybe his need to dominate is met. Does this scenario work for you guys?
As an aside, I asked her what she thought about relationships where the woman initiates sex most often, or nearly all the time. She said she thinks that usually happens as a result of the man being rejected enough so he stops trying, and takes the “Getting rejected is not working, so I guess she can ask me approach.” I’ve only seen that in one other friend, but I had to agree. In that situation, the man got turned down nearly all the time, so he finally just stopped asking. And so sex slowed down for them to about once or twice a month, when she would finally ask him. Not sexless, but less than ideal for most people. Recently, this friend told me that her husband pulled her aside one day and said something like “We’re in our forties now, and we’ve missed out on a lot of good times. Those years are gone, and we can never get them back. Part of me really resents you. It could have been a lot better.” OUCH - Not something you want your life partner to say to you. As in “Hey, you are my person. I trusted you to want to be with me, and to meet these basic emotional/ physical needs, and it could have made US a lot better and you blew it.”
EDIT: I think I’ve run out of good stories, and am at the end of my insight on this topic. I’m a school psychologist, not a Marriage counselor :). Soo, not the expert, but I do think all the layers of this in terms of the bio-chemistry, as well as the ways different people handle intimacy in their long term relationships is interesting. Some open discussion can be good. I often learn something. Thanks everybody for such thoughtful and frank responses.
[/quote]
This has been kind of a pet peeve of mine about women for a looong time. I hear them talk at parties with pride about how much they reject sex and how they are constantly wanted. For me it allowed me to develop an iron will. A took passive aggressive approach. If I heard this kind of shit, I would avoid sex like the plague. I figured if it’s such a hassle, fuck it. Far be it from me to be a hassle. Don’t like sex? Fine we won’t have it. No biggie. So next time you talk to your friends you can tell them that you haven’t been bothered and life is good.
If girls don’t like sex so much, why don’t they just stay virgins? They talk like it’s annoying and such a pain. Nobody is forcing you.
One thing I realized is that girls take it waaay more personal if you turn them down for sex than the opposite. Well, if you don’t want to be turned down, then don’t complain that people want to fuck you. I don’t like a challenge, it doesn’t turn me on, it doesn’t make me try harder, it does nothing but piss me off. I will never give chase. Life’s to short for that.
[/quote]
women love sex, but with a certain type of man, it’s why sex in marriages is so shitty, because women settle for the less exciting mate type most of the time
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
About dominance - How about this scenario? This is from my BFF. She has taken a very pragmatic approach, and I think it’s fairly egalitarian. This is a marriage of about 10 years. She decided that, baring physical illness, she would never say no. Never. And her husband does the same for her. He never tells her no. I asked her how they decided on this strategy, and her reasons were that she noticed that sex becomes a point of contention in a lot of marriages, so she decided to try to avoid that in her own. Purely pragmatic. And funny, because there isn’t necessarily a lot of seduction going on. Either can just say, “You want to?” and the other person will say “Sure.” Now, it’s not entirely equal because her husband still initiates sex more often. Maybe you all can read that as he’s still dominant. He is dominant in a lot of other ways, so maybe his need to dominate is met. Does this scenario work for you guys?
As an aside, I asked her what she thought about relationships where the woman initiates sex most often, or nearly all the time. She said she thinks that usually happens as a result of the man being rejected enough so he stops trying, and takes the “Getting rejected is not working, so I guess she can ask me approach.” I’ve only seen that in one other friend, but I had to agree. In that situation, the man got turned down nearly all the time, so he finally just stopped asking. And so sex slowed down for them to about once or twice a month, when she would finally ask him. Not sexless, but less than ideal for most people. Recently, this friend told me that her husband pulled her aside one day and said something like “We’re in our forties now, and we’ve missed out on a lot of good times. Those years are gone, and we can never get them back. Part of me really resents you. It could have been a lot better.” OUCH - Not something you want your life partner to say to you. As in “Hey, you are my person. I trusted you to want to be with me, and to meet these basic emotional/ physical needs, and it could have made US a lot better and you blew it.”
EDIT: I think I’ve run out of good stories, and am at the end of my insight on this topic. I’m a school psychologist, not a Marriage counselor :). Soo, not the expert, but I do think all the layers of this in terms of the bio-chemistry, as well as the ways different people handle intimacy in their long term relationships is interesting. Some open discussion can be good. I often learn something. Thanks everybody for such thoughtful and frank responses.
[/quote]
This has been kind of a pet peeve of mine about women for a looong time. I hear them talk at parties with pride about how much they reject sex and how they are constantly wanted. For me it allowed me to develop an iron will. A took passive aggressive approach. If I heard this kind of shit, I would avoid sex like the plague. I figured if it’s such a hassle, fuck it. Far be it from me to be a hassle. Don’t like sex? Fine we won’t have it. No biggie. So next time you talk to your friends you can tell them that you haven’t been bothered and life is good.
If girls don’t like sex so much, why don’t they just stay virgins? They talk like it’s annoying and such a pain. Nobody is forcing you.
One thing I realized is that girls take it waaay more personal if you turn them down for sex than the opposite. Well, if you don’t want to be turned down, then don’t complain that people want to fuck you. I don’t like a challenge, it doesn’t turn me on, it doesn’t make me try harder, it does nothing but piss me off. I will never give chase. Life’s to short for that.
[/quote]
If it even comes to this, things went so terribly, terribly wrong already.
I suppose a woman could say that about me, but to provide full disclosure she would have to mention that she sleeps on the couch.
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
About dominance - How about this scenario? This is from my BFF. She has taken a very pragmatic approach, and I think it’s fairly egalitarian. This is a marriage of about 10 years. She decided that, baring physical illness, she would never say no. Never. And her husband does the same for her. He never tells her no. I asked her how they decided on this strategy, and her reasons were that she noticed that sex becomes a point of contention in a lot of marriages, so she decided to try to avoid that in her own. Purely pragmatic. And funny, because there isn’t necessarily a lot of seduction going on. Either can just say, “You want to?” and the other person will say “Sure.” Now, it’s not entirely equal because her husband still initiates sex more often. Maybe you all can read that as he’s still dominant. He is dominant in a lot of other ways, so maybe his need to dominate is met. Does this scenario work for you guys?
As an aside, I asked her what she thought about relationships where the woman initiates sex most often, or nearly all the time. She said she thinks that usually happens as a result of the man being rejected enough so he stops trying, and takes the “Getting rejected is not working, so I guess she can ask me approach.” I’ve only seen that in one other friend, but I had to agree. In that situation, the man got turned down nearly all the time, so he finally just stopped asking. And so sex slowed down for them to about once or twice a month, when she would finally ask him. Not sexless, but less than ideal for most people. Recently, this friend told me that her husband pulled her aside one day and said something like “We’re in our forties now, and we’ve missed out on a lot of good times. Those years are gone, and we can never get them back. Part of me really resents you. It could have been a lot better.” OUCH - Not something you want your life partner to say to you. As in “Hey, you are my person. I trusted you to want to be with me, and to meet these basic emotional/ physical needs, and it could have made US a lot better and you blew it.”
EDIT: I think I’ve run out of good stories, and am at the end of my insight on this topic. I’m a school psychologist, not a Marriage counselor :). Soo, not the expert, but I do think all the layers of this in terms of the bio-chemistry, as well as the ways different people handle intimacy in their long term relationships is interesting. Some open discussion can be good. I often learn something. Thanks everybody for such thoughtful and frank responses.
[/quote]
This has been kind of a pet peeve of mine about women for a looong time. I hear them talk at parties with pride about how much they reject sex and how they are constantly wanted. For me it allowed me to develop an iron will. A took passive aggressive approach. If I heard this kind of shit, I would avoid sex like the plague. I figured if it’s such a hassle, fuck it. Far be it from me to be a hassle. Don’t like sex? Fine we won’t have it. No biggie. So next time you talk to your friends you can tell them that you haven’t been bothered and life is good.
If girls don’t like sex so much, why don’t they just stay virgins? They talk like it’s annoying and such a pain. Nobody is forcing you.
One thing I realized is that girls take it waaay more personal if you turn them down for sex than the opposite. Well, if you don’t want to be turned down, then don’t complain that people want to fuck you. I don’t like a challenge, it doesn’t turn me on, it doesn’t make me try harder, it does nothing but piss me off. I will never give chase. Life’s to short for that.
[/quote]
women love sex, but with a certain type of man, it’s why sex in marriages is so shitty, because women settle for the less exciting mate type most of the time[/quote]
No doubt any chick who picks me is settling. Hence, I don’t force the issue.
[quote]orion wrote:
If it even comes to this, things went so terribly, terribly wrong already.
I suppose a woman could say that about me, but to provide full disclosure she would have to mention that she sleeps on the couch.
[/quote]
Women don’t give full disclosure. It’s never happened in the history of chick-dom. If you felt like you’ve gotten full disclosure from a woman, you are only fulling yourself. There’s always an angle.
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
women love sex, but with a certain type of man, it’s why sex in marriages is so shitty, because women settle for the less exciting mate type most of the time[/quote]
They have to.
Not only could she hit above her weightclass when it came to hookups and short term flings, by the time they marry they usually have lost the new car smell.
So she would have to discount that men above her in SMV only used her as a fucktoy and then adjust still further for her squandered youth and beauty.
That requires an amount of introspection that is not encouraged in women these days.
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
If it even comes to this, things went so terribly, terribly wrong already.
I suppose a woman could say that about me, but to provide full disclosure she would have to mention that she sleeps on the couch.
[/quote]
Women don’t give full disclosure. It’s never happened in the history of chick-dom. If you felt like you’ve gotten full disclosure from a woman, you are only fulling yourself. There’s always an angle.[/quote]
I would happily do it for her.