[quote]Edgy wrote:
meanwhile, back on subject…
what should ken do? scoot over and ravage barbie, or wait until barbie is in the mood for some snuggling, and warm her up?
what is a woman’s prospective on such things?[/quote]
Ravage Barby with what?
And even if he was not castrated hfrom te get go, he would put it where?
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Edgy wrote:
meanwhile, back on subject…
what should ken do? scoot over and ravage barbie, or wait until barbie is in the mood for some snuggling, and warm her up?
what is a woman’s prospective on such things?[/quote]
Ravage Barby with what?
And even if he was not castrated hfrom te get go, he would put it where?[/quote]
I was using non-anatomicaly correct dolls for discussion only, Might O - you need to use your 'Magination on this one~
[quote]Edgy wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Edgy wrote:
meanwhile, back on subject…
what should ken do? scoot over and ravage barbie, or wait until barbie is in the mood for some snuggling, and warm her up?
what is a woman’s prospective on such things?[/quote]
Ravage Barby with what?
And even if he was not castrated hfrom te get go, he would put it where?[/quote]
I was using non-anatomicaly correct dolls for discussion only, Might O - you need to use your 'Magination on this one~
[/quote]
But, but…
My Magination only leads me to dark dangerous places…
The biggest mistake a man can do is get comfortable and stop being dominant.
I didn’t believe it at first but women respond to men stronger than them, especially physically. Learned it myself and funnily enough you actually get more attention this way.
The biggest mistake women can do is try to dominate men. This is when they get chewed up by men who dont take shit from these women and behind the scenes she actually loves it because you’re a challenge. Its tiring though because like Bill Burr says, women are relentless.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Edgy wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Edgy wrote:
meanwhile, back on subject…
what should ken do? scoot over and ravage barbie, or wait until barbie is in the mood for some snuggling, and warm her up?
Depending on what I have eaten its downright frightening.
what is a woman’s prospective on such things?[/quote]
Ravage Barby with what?
And even if he was not castrated hfrom te get go, he would put it where?[/quote]
I was using non-anatomicaly correct dolls for discussion only, Might O - you need to use your 'Magination on this one~
[/quote]
But, but…
My Magination only leads me to dark dangerous places…[/quote]
In the bathroom with the lights off may be dark, but it ain’t dangerous.[/quote]
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Edgy wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Edgy wrote:
meanwhile, back on subject…
what should ken do? scoot over and ravage barbie, or wait until barbie is in the mood for some snuggling, and warm her up?
what is a woman’s prospective on such things?[/quote]
Ravage Barby with what?
And even if he was not castrated hfrom te get go, he would put it where?[/quote]
I was using non-anatomicaly correct dolls for discussion only, Might O - you need to use your 'Magination on this one~
[/quote]
But, but…
My Magination only leads me to dark dangerous places…[/quote]
In the bathroom with the lights off may be dark, but it ain’t dangerous.[/quote]
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Depending on what I have eaten its downright frightening.
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
The biggest mistake a man can do is get comfortable and stop being dominant.
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this needs to be part of the discussion, as per the article, the man is stay-at-home work on the computer sissy, and when his wife was not responding, he started doing the dishes.
what he should have done, is mebbe start hanging out with the friends, drinking too much, and not asking for sex, but taking sex, in a non-threatening kind of way, but a viking kinda way.
women respond favorably to this.
again, this is part of the discussion, what are your thoughts?
[quote]Edgy wrote:
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
The biggest mistake a man can do is get comfortable and stop being dominant.
[/quote]
this needs to be part of the discussion, as per the article, the man is stay-at-home work on the computer sissy, and when his wife was not responding, he started doing the dishes.
what he should have done, is mebbe start hanging out with the friends, drinking too much, and not asking for sex, but taking sex, in a non-threatening kind of way, but a viking kinda way.
women respond favorably to this.
again, this is part of the discussion, what are your thoughts?[/quote]
In a viking kind of way?
Swinging the big ol’ axe eh?
[quote]Edgy wrote:
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
The biggest mistake a man can do is get comfortable and stop being dominant.
[/quote]
this needs to be part of the discussion, as per the article, the man is stay-at-home work on the computer sissy, and when his wife was not responding, he started doing the dishes.
what he should have done, is mebbe start hanging out with the friends, drinking too much, and not asking for sex, but taking sex, in a non-threatening kind of way, but a viking kinda way.
women respond favorably to this.
again, this is part of the discussion, what are your thoughts?[/quote]
You seem like a really good dude, but if you believe a “viking kinda way” of taking sex is “non-threatening”, then one of us is a little hazy on our history. I seem to remember lots of raping, pillaging and burning of coastal villages, but I could totally be wrong…
[quote]Edgy wrote:
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
The biggest mistake a man can do is get comfortable and stop being dominant.
[/quote]
this needs to be part of the discussion, as per the article, the man is stay-at-home work on the computer sissy, and when his wife was not responding, he started doing the dishes.
what he should have done, is mebbe start hanging out with the friends, drinking too much, and not asking for sex, but taking sex, in a non-threatening kind of way, but a viking kinda way.
women respond favorably to this.
again, this is part of the discussion, what are your thoughts?[/quote]
I agree with harrypotter’s post completely. Edgy, I don’t completely agree with your strategy. I tried both tactics.
Both didn’t work - the submissive WSJ way made me feel like less of a man. I was very thoughtful beforehand, and my girl was attracted to the dominant guy I was when we started dating. When I tried Edgy’s way, I obviously got the blame for being fratty and self-centered. We discussed it rationally several times and things didn’t improve.
In the end the issues were caused because she wanted dominance and control - she felt like she was beneath me and wanted to change that. It didn’t work - when she took control of the relationship, things got stale and boring for the both of us. All this was eye opening, she actually got jealous of anything positive in my life (I had never once acted like I was above her in any way), and made me realize that her assessment WAS correct, and that she was actually not good enough for me. If I could do it again I would keep the discussions open, but I would also just focus on my own life more - the things I honed while focusing on myself are what made me so attractive. All these control issues are petty and a waste of time…in the future I would honestly just move on. I should put “sex at least 3x a week” in a prenupt
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
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BD, I never thought I’d thank a guy for posting a picture of himself with his shirt off but THANK YOU that avatar is a HUGE improvement over the last one.
Pushy - I think Boxers term is up first, but for some reason, both her and Feinstein get 80% of the vote - howzaboot you move to Cali and run against them. that would shake up the electorate~
Potter - swinging the bog-ol-axe is definitly part of the Viking way, but wimmenz do not know what they want, and deep within thier primordial soul, they need to be dominated - not in a mean way, but taken control of -
Batman - keep in mind, i’m from Cali, so my Viking’ing is probably a whole lot less violent than the original Vikings…
Disaster - i get it, some wimmenz you just cannot reach - in all things in dealing with the human race is that there will always be some people that will not get it. if this doesnt pertain to your situation, i understand… but. for the most part. wimmenz will want to be dominated.
Edge - Aint that the truth?
at risk of sounding like Orion, there is some truth to this story about wimmen wanting to be dominated. it is in thier dna. why do you think they always ask for the emo looking dude who pours out his feelings, but is attracted to the leather jacketed biker? ever go car shopping with your wife? you start looking at white corollas, then gravitate to the black chrystlers, but end up going home with the white corollas anyway.
a good read for the 21st century man.
this may even work on our Canadian cousins.
Really good discussion in here.
Edgy I actually completely agree that women (in my experience) want to be dominated. I think it has to due with evolutionary psych, the dominant “alpha” males have got the ability to provide and have great DNA to offer.
The issue with her was that she THOUGHT she didn’t want to be dominated and tried to control the relationship as such (daddy issues). In the end I just had to get out of there, no amount of being dominant could’ve saved me.
Honestly given the no-sex problem again, I would give it a few weeks of maybe some behavior changing and communication about the problem, and then would leave. Life is too short not to get laid. I’m not sure how I’d deal with the problem in marriage. Hopefully dating for a few years before marriage could serve as a filter for that kind of behavior.
lol thanks on edge, I kept it up because the great ID made it
I liked the notion in the article that it’s NOT always easy and natural, but that you have to work at sex sometimes and go out of your comfort zone. The relationship I had prior to the one with said crazy ex was very much like that. We saw it as extremely selfish and uncaring to not want to go out of our way to really satisfy the other person. That translated to all facets of the relationship.
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
Life is too short not to get laid. [/quote]
THIS!
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About dominance - How about this scenario? This is from my BFF. She has taken a very pragmatic approach, and I think it’s fairly egalitarian. This is a marriage of about 10 years. She decided that, baring physical illness, she would never say no. Never. And her husband does the same for her. He never tells her no. I asked her how they decided on this strategy, and her reasons were that she noticed that sex becomes a point of contention in a lot of marriages, so she decided to try to avoid that in her own. Purely pragmatic. And funny, because there isn’t necessarily a lot of seduction going on. Either can just say, “You want to?” and the other person will say “Sure.” Now, it’s not entirely equal because her husband still initiates sex more often. Maybe you all can read that as he’s still dominant. He is dominant in a lot of other ways, so maybe his need to dominate is met. Does this scenario work for you guys?
As an aside, I asked her what she thought about relationships where the woman initiates sex most often, or nearly all the time. She said she thinks that usually happens as a result of the man being rejected enough so he stops trying, and takes the “Getting rejected is not working, so I guess she can ask me approach.” I’ve only seen that in one other friend, but I had to agree. In that situation, the man got turned down nearly all the time, so he finally just stopped asking. And so sex slowed down for them to about once or twice a month, when she would finally ask him. Not sexless, but less than ideal for most people. Recently, this friend told me that her husband pulled her aside one day and said something like “We’re in our forties now, and we’ve missed out on a lot of good times. Those years are gone, and we can never get them back. Part of me really resents you. It could have been a lot better.” OUCH - Not something you want your life partner to say to you. As in “Hey, you are my person. I trusted you to want to be with me, and to meet these basic emotional/ physical needs, and it could have made US a lot better and you blew it.”
EDIT: I think I’ve run out of good stories, and am at the end of my insight on this topic. I’m a school psychologist, not a Marriage counselor :). Soo, not the expert, but I do think all the layers of this in terms of the bio-chemistry, as well as the ways different people handle intimacy in their long term relationships is interesting. Some open discussion can be good. I often learn something. Thanks everybody for such thoughtful and frank responses.