[quote]happydog48 wrote:
Just a comment on blood work. Ask you doctor (or his staff) to give you a copy of the report. They shouldn’t hesitate and having the results in hand makes it easy to do your own research. You’re way ahead of the pack by taking responsibility for your own health![/quote]
The scary and/or cool part about all of that is that it only takes a few months of heavy recearch about a particular condition to equal ones knowledge with their MD.
[quote]V R wrote:
Your DHT level is elevated. We need to work to get that down. If not so much for the hair, more so for the prostate. DHT is important, but like every hormone, needs to be in proper range. Elevated DHT will cause the prostate to swell.
Enlarged prostate gland will cause a whole host of problems, like difficulty urinating, waking during the night to urinate, weakened urine/ejaculate flow. Yea, bunch of stuff you dont want. By lowering dose of T, less T will covert to DHT, which will naturally cause DHT levels to fall.
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Prostate size is responsive to DHT, but that is normal. The prostate is also responsive to elevated E. As some age and T goes down and E goes up, the E is responsible for some of the growth of the prostate.
Consider that for most of the guys in this situation, that their T levels are low and their DHT levels are also low. And young men have T and DHT levels that are through the roof and they do not get prostate problems. Once the prostate gets into a bad state, DHT cannot make it any better.
And starving the prostate of DHT will make it smaller (and kill libido). So the prostate is responsive to DHT, but DHT is probably not what caused the problem in the first place. E may be the problem that causes BPH, not DHT.
Thanks for the info guys.
I always get a copy of BW from my MDS. I have it going back 2yrs. They don’t give me a hard time at all.
Like I’ve said, I am going to see how this next BW goes,(test next week,see MD 3/12), and then we can see what path to take. I assume my Ts will determine whether to drop to 100. I’m just trying to feel normal. Beings I’m semi nuts, that won’t be easy. I am going to talk to him about AI which like VR and KSman said is making me fell better every day. I have actually had an appitite, but have to watch as no gym due to cold. I gain easy.
Thanks again, the AI seems to be making a big difference and I’ve only taken 2 doses.
I wouldn’t take the anti-e if you don’t need it. My e levels go up and my libido goes through the roof. There is most certainly an upper range where that reverses itself, but if my test and e is up I am sportin’ wood when the breeze hits me.
[quote]Big Dave56 wrote:
I wouldn’t take the anti-e if you don’t need it. My e levels go up and my libido goes through the roof. There is most certainly an upper range where that reverses itself, but if my test and e is up I am sportin’ wood when the breeze hits me.
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I wish I was sporting wood with the breeze but that is not the case. I don’t know if age has anything to do with it, but I know I was bloated, (lost 5lbs or so in a wk), felt like shit and was in a foul mood. Things are changing, but will talk with endo and take the AI until then.
I wasn’t all about my libido. 21yrs with same woman and I have more sex with my computer. I do love my wife more, but at 54 and having had sex with her thousands of times, well you get the picture.
[quote]KSman wrote:
V R wrote:
Your DHT level is elevated. We need to work to get that down. If not so much for the hair, more so for the prostate. DHT is important, but like every hormone, needs to be in proper range. Elevated DHT will cause the prostate to swell.
Enlarged prostate gland will cause a whole host of problems, like difficulty urinating, waking during the night to urinate, weakened urine/ejaculate flow. Yea, bunch of stuff you dont want. By lowering dose of T, less T will covert to DHT, which will naturally cause DHT levels to fall.
Prostate size is responsive to DHT, but that is normal. The prostate is also responsive to elevated E. As some age and T goes down and E goes up, the E is responsible for some of the growth of the prostate.
Consider that for most of the guys in this situation, that their T levels are low and their DHT levels are also low. And young men have T and DHT levels that are through the roof and they do not get prostate problems. Once the prostate gets into a bad state, DHT cannot make it any better.
And starving the prostate of DHT will make it smaller (and kill libido). So the prostate is responsive to DHT, but DHT is probably not what caused the problem in the first place. E may be the problem that causes BPH, not DHT.[/quote]
While all of this is true, you must take into consideration this - HRT. Normal people often have prostate issues because of E. But they are also not injecting 200mg of T a week and carrying a DHT level of 137, way more than the upper range of 80.
Me personally, would not be comfortable with a DHT level that high.
One only needs to look at all the past studies of steroid usage and see issues with even people as young as teenages with swollen prostates from to much DHT conversion. Being a guy in his 50’s, he should be even more wary of such problems that may occur. 200mg of T a week is borderline steroid usage.
[quote]V R wrote:
happydog48 wrote:
The scary and/or cool part about all of that is that it only takes a few months of heavy recearch about a particular condition to equal ones knowledge with their MD. [/quote]
thats funny as it is truth!!!
[quote]Big Dave56 wrote:
I wouldn’t take the anti-e if you don’t need it. My e levels go up and my libido goes through the roof. There is most certainly an upper range where that reverses itself, but if my test and e is up I am sportin’ wood when the breeze hits me.
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How long have you been on this TRT?
Dose/week and frequency of injecting?
What are your T, FT and E levels?
“I wouldn’t take the anti-e if you don’t need it.” But we are saying that many do need it and should be on the AI. We are saying the same thing here.