[quote]countingbeans wrote:
I guess I just assume if someone can’t figure out whether their program is working or not, or if someone is going to stop doing something that is working because we are bouncing ideas off each other, they are damned to their own dumbassness, lol…[/quote]
lol true
I guess it could be likened to Modok’s thread “Bodypart Once Weekly” - I’d say that Modok seems to have his head screwed on right when it comes to bodybuilding, but the general consensus of training bodyparts only once a week still made him curious to experiment to see if he could get better gains and feel that somehow he was missing out with his personal training program where he was doing bodyparts up to 3 times a week.
Is it okay if when doing Incline DB I can’t get my elbows anywhere below my shoulders? I only go to 90 othewise I feel like I’m chewing tendon. Otherwise it feels okay.
Is it okay if when doing Incline DB I can’t get my elbows anywhere below my shoulders? I only go to 90 othewise I feel like I’m chewing tendon. Otherwise it feels okay.[/quote]
This goes for ANY exercise with ANY muscle- If you cant perform a movement to the fullest extent of that movement’s intended purpose, But you notice growth/feel the stimulation, Continue to do the movement, BUT dont not rely on it as a bread N’ Butter movement. In other words, Dont try to turn something that is uncomfortable/painful into your main movement for a particular region, but you can continue doing them as a Side note type exercise. That make sense?
[quote]trav123456 wrote:
Do you tri delt dominant guys tuck your scalps really hard when pressing? That made a big difference for me when I learned to keep that portion tight, especially with a barbell.[/quote]
Yes, this is huge. Not only is it important in development, but it’s also pivotal in maintaining shoulder health when your lifting heavy. I wish I would have known to do this earlier.
Is it okay if when doing Incline DB I can’t get my elbows anywhere below my shoulders? I only go to 90 othewise I feel like I’m chewing tendon. Otherwise it feels okay.[/quote]
This goes for ANY exercise with ANY muscle- If you cant perform a movement to the fullest extent of that movement’s intended purpose, But you notice growth/feel the stimulation, Continue to do the movement, BUT dont not rely on it as a bread N’ Butter movement. In other words, Dont try to turn something that is uncomfortable/painful into your main movement for a particular region, but you can continue doing them as a Side note type exercise. That make sense?[/quote]
I think that makes sense. So doing it after a main lift like flat bench is okay? or would you prefer doing it even less often and finding something you can do full ROM?
Can’t say I’ve ever been a fan of pullovers for chest, I honestly don’t even see how it’s mechanically possible to work chest effectively with that movement although I know some love it.[/quote]
It has to do with where the pectorals attach to the humerus. They wrap around the humerus anteriorly. When your arms are raised above your head, your pecs become stretched. When the pectorals flex it brings the arms back in front of your face.
Also, during any chest exercise, if you try to pronate your arm during the contraction you will get more out of the movement, because the pectorals are a medial rotator of the humerus.
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
I believe that Dips can truly be the best chest exercise, just look at the amazing pecs of the 1950’s competitors. They relied a hell of a lot more on dips than all the odd angled presses and cable stuff we do now. If I didn’t have a screwy shoulder (old discus injury), I’d love to incorporate them. Heck, that’s the reason I started playing around with low decline DB work, trying to simulate a dipping motion for my chest.
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I agree! Dips/weighted dips have always been a staple of my chest routine. In my experience, I feel it is a better overall mass builder than dumbells or barbells. It certainly gives me more activation in my tris and a great stretch in the chest during eccentric part of the lift.
Hey Stu, you mentioned that doing dips bothers your shoulders. Just wondering, have you tried performing them with various widths? In my case, when I try to go wider on dips, that’s when it really starts to bug my shoulders.
Is it okay if when doing Incline DB I can’t get my elbows anywhere below my shoulders? I only go to 90 othewise I feel like I’m chewing tendon. Otherwise it feels okay.[/quote]
This goes for ANY exercise with ANY muscle- If you cant perform a movement to the fullest extent of that movement’s intended purpose, But you notice growth/feel the stimulation, Continue to do the movement, BUT dont not rely on it as a bread N’ Butter movement. In other words, Dont try to turn something that is uncomfortable/painful into your main movement for a particular region, but you can continue doing them as a Side note type exercise. That make sense?[/quote]
I think that makes sense. So doing it after a main lift like flat bench is okay? or would you prefer doing it even less often and finding something you can do full ROM?
Thanks so much.[/quote]
Id say yea, but remember, you cant neglect your upper chest, then youll just end up with a collar bone with a Boob hanging from it. You want a full, thick developed pec. So id suggest finding some variation of Incline movement that you can perform properly.
LOL thanks man. Exactly what I’m trying to avoid. I guess I need to make sure I get my elbows back far? Pardon me for my noobness. I usually make sure my bench isn’t inclined too high, but i get worried that if it’s too close to flat that it’s not going to hit upper pec. Whats the best indication besides seeing progress after a few weeks?
Yea, youd probably want to get to the point where youre a bit more worried about hitting your Front deltoid rather than having the bench too low to hit your upper chest. Just look at a fixed Incline BB bench. Thats the basic angle you want to go for.
Best indication for seeing results i guess would have to be the pump and how you feel it. I try to flex muscles after working them, so to feel my upper chest and its pump, I basically Supinate my Arms in front of me and raise them about chin height. You should be able to feel your upper chest there.
Hey Akuma, i noticed you do a LOT of volume for your bodyparts. I assume you train once a week and just obliterate them, seeing as u have so many exercises for one bodypart, how do switch up your training?? I mean for chest it looks like u have every chest exercise known to man, how can u possibly swtich that up besides, reps and exercise order???
[quote]pro-a-ggression wrote:
Hey Akuma, i noticed you do a LOT of volume for your bodyparts. I assume you train once a week and just obliterate them, seeing as u have so many exercises for one bodypart, how do switch up your training?? I mean for chest it looks like u have every chest exercise known to man, how can u possibly swtich that up besides, reps and exercise order???[/quote]
Exercise variety. I keep a workout journal. I’ll look what i did last week, and change things up weekly. I normally only change bout 1/2 of it tho, keeping the Main movements the same. But with chest, changing movements is easy- Changing angles of flys, focusing more on DBs one week, using different machines, changing the setup of my presses, etc.
Can’t say I’ve ever been a fan of pullovers for chest, I honestly don’t even see how it’s mechanically possible to work chest effectively with that movement although I know some love it.[/quote]
It has to do with where the pectorals attach to the humerus. They wrap around the humerus anteriorly. When your arms are raised above your head, your pecs become stretched. When the pectorals flex it brings the arms back in front of your face.
Also, during any chest exercise, if you try to pronate your arm during the contraction you will get more out of the movement, because the pectorals are a medial rotator of the humerus.
Can’t say I’ve ever been a fan of pullovers for chest, I honestly don’t even see how it’s mechanically possible to work chest effectively with that movement although I know some love it.[/quote]
It has to do with where the pectorals attach to the humerus. They wrap around the humerus anteriorly. When your arms are raised above your head, your pecs become stretched. When the pectorals flex it brings the arms back in front of your face.
Also, during any chest exercise, if you try to pronate your arm during the contraction you will get more out of the movement, because the pectorals are a medial rotator of the humerus.
Can’t say I’ve ever been a fan of pullovers for chest, I honestly don’t even see how it’s mechanically possible to work chest effectively with that movement although I know some love it.[/quote]
It has to do with where the pectorals attach to the humerus. They wrap around the humerus anteriorly. When your arms are raised above your head, your pecs become stretched. When the pectorals flex it brings the arms back in front of your face.
Also, during any chest exercise, if you try to pronate your arm during the contraction you will get more out of the movement, because the pectorals are a medial rotator of the humerus.
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Thanks for the info.[/quote]
geez, take an anatomy class…[/quote]
Sorry Akunamatata, I don’t major in the minors. I’m too busy getting swole
Can’t say I’ve ever been a fan of pullovers for chest, I honestly don’t even see how it’s mechanically possible to work chest effectively with that movement although I know some love it.[/quote]
It has to do with where the pectorals attach to the humerus. They wrap around the humerus anteriorly. When your arms are raised above your head, your pecs become stretched. When the pectorals flex it brings the arms back in front of your face.
Also, during any chest exercise, if you try to pronate your arm during the contraction you will get more out of the movement, because the pectorals are a medial rotator of the humerus.
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Thanks for the info.[/quote]
geez, take an anatomy class…[/quote]
Sorry Akunamatata, I don’t major in the minors. I’m too busy getting swole :P[/quote]
