[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Protoculture wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
catalyst wrote:
I’m not sure why you guys think its cooler to act like you’re annoyed with this question.
well consider when you say you arent.
then the other person keeps insisting you are and trys to name off multiple reasons as to why you are.
Well, considering how all the biggest guys at my gym are on steroids (yes, they speak about it openly - they don’t even try to hide it) and those at the summit of bodybuilding are on steroids it’s not ridiculous for people to assume if you body build you take steroids.
Seriously, who was the last relevant, to average Americans, bodybuilder to NOT be on steroids?
Some of you are pissed off many don’t know your hobby as well as you do. Considering how many here, on the bodybuilding forum, cannot name all previous Mr Olympias (without googling them) or even recognize some in pictures I don’t see why it’s a big deal that knowledge of the sport and its history are low.
Anyway, like others have said - you should take it as a compliment.
when did i ever say i was pissed off people didnt know bodybuilding? i dont care if people know about lifting just like i would hope people of other enthusiasms would not expect me to be detailed into what it is that they do.
my frustration is when people don’t shut the fuck up about things they dont know. and it’s not even whether you know about steroids but to assume i’m on them just because of some asinine reason and when i deny to keep pushing it. that isn’t complimenting someone, that’s being a fucking dickhead because youre trying to tease/insult the person.
you shouldnt assume certain habits of people just because of their body comp.
how about i tell every skinny person i see that i think theyre on heroin or have AIDS
and tell every fat person i see that they must have diabetes. and not even fat people, just kinda chubby ones. then when they deny i can say that it’s impossible for them to be telling the truth because i saw on a tv show once that most fat people have diabetes.
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I quoted you, but not everything was direct at you.
Sorry your feelings get hurt when people make assumptions about you based on your hobbies. But then again we all have preconceived notions about others based on their hobbies.
For example, how many here would assume successful rock band members have at least at one point used recreational drugs? Sure, some publicly admit to it, but others don’t.
What about D&D (role playing game) players? Chances are if I told you a friend of mine is a long time hardcore gamer you’d assume he was a nerd or geek… Hardly complimentary.
I can list end list hobbies with false assumptions we have about them. It just so happens that bodybuilding is associated with steroids.
This upsets you? You wish people would take the time to discover you’re a unique and beautiful snowflake? Get real. People have far more hurtful preconceived notions about more important shit like race and religion. People are too stubborn to take the time to learn about these things. People automatically assuming bodybuilders are on steroids, D&D players are geeks/virgins, and rockers smoking pot are well down the depth chart.
Secondly, there is a difference between those who assume you are on steroids but can be easily swayed and those who desperately want to ‘out you’. The first group doesn’t know much about bodybuilding and don’t really care about it. They assume your on steroids just because it seems normal for a bodybuilder to be on them. Can you blame them for thinking this? Again, when was the last time America was exposed to a successful bodybuilder who wasn’t on steroids? I’m serious. When? And then you wonder why they automatically assume this? Luckily these people can be persuaded otherwise if provided some useful information. For the most part they have no real opinion of the sport aside from tidbits of pro level bodybuilding.
Then there is the second group who are made of haters who are bitter. Bitter about being constantly lied to by bodybuilders and pro athletes who swear up and down they are clean only to be busted years or months later. They are sick of the lies, and lets be honest a moment. Go to any steroid subforum on bodybuilding sites and you’ll meet countless guys who lie to people about their usage in “real life”. Do you expect these average joes to ignore all these facts and not doubt anyone with a great build?
Heck, even the bigger, faster stronger steroid documentary has male models (nowhere near ifbb pro size) say that people are fools if they think they can develop a body like their without steroids!
It’s not as if these preconceived notions are coming from nowhere. Are you telling me you cannot see it from their point of view?
For most bodybuilding and steroids will forever be intertwined. Does it suck for those who have never used and had to bust their ass to get where they are? Yup. But that’s life.
Oh - and those who insist on outing you simply have poor manners. They suck for doing that. But I don’t blame them for thinking most are on steroids even if they are wrong. At my gym 15-20% of the regulars are on steroids. And many of them don’t even look that great…
Anyway, I realize what I’m saying is going to be incredibly unpopular - but like I said, bodybuilding hasn’t exactly had many (if any) clean representatives in how many decades?
which I take as a compliment and enjoy denying hahaha