Are People Here Not Trying Very Hard?

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[quote]Am14g08 wrote:

[quote]Liv92 wrote:
How is it biomechanically impossible for you to back squat to even parallel. Are you a fucking alien? Anyone can go to parallel we actually are biomechanically made to sit in ATG postion (aka look at babies.) Just cause your fat ass is inflexible as my grandma doesn’t mean your “biomechanically” not fit to squat. [/quote]

Thanks for the advice.

Can you show me your vid of 400lb + ATGrass squats for at least 6 reps.

I’m sure you can, it would help me out if you could. Thanks.

Also I did actually hit parallel on the fourth rep if you pause it. Cheers.

So I clearly CAN hit over 400lbs squatting to parallel even if I didn’t do it for all the reps. later.[/quote]
You were nowhere near parallel on any of your reps, sorry.

You will be surprised how much you lose on your squat when you try to go to depth. I’d be surprised if you could competition style squat 3 plates. Start stretching hard and drop the weight until you can make good, solid depth - better for the knees and continuous gains. Don’t be like 90% of the people I see in the gym quarter squatting. You’re making good progress so far but bad form will get you sooner or later.

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[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
This has been very entertaining and i’ve enjoyed every moment but i’m now going to try and be serious.

OP, you came here begging the question- “Are people here not trying very hard??” For anyone posting on an internet site such as this, we are ALL hobbists. This is nothing more than a hobby. Some may have dellusions of being hardcore but no one is. The true hardcore people don’t post on internet sites. They are living the shit 24/7. It’s all they do. They could care less about how blessed you think you are or how big your frame is. They are focused on one thing- Being the best. They don’t care what others think on the internet.

Even us that compete are doing it as a hobby. We have lives outside the gym. I’ll give you a reality check. Right now in China, somewhere, there is a little girl who weighs half of what you do and she is squatting more weight than you can ATG with perfect form. The reason- she’s been doing it since she could walk.

I know i’ve been busting your balls, but you really do deserve it. I really hope many years from now you look back and say- “damn i really had no idea what i was talking about. I should have shut the fuck up, asked some intelligent questions, learned a few things”. Right now all you are doing is making excuses for poor form while at the same time boasting about how much better you are than pretty much everyone else. The true elite don’t give a fuck what everone else is doing. They spend their entire time critiquing themselves. They will never live up to their own expectations.

Stop saying you are going to run away and come back in a year to show us all how great you’ve become. 1. we won’t remember who you are when you do come back and 2. Who cares what anyone on an internet site thinks about you. It really is all about your own expectations of yourself.

You aren’t special. None of us are. Trust me on this. I used to compete with the sole intention of beating others. That’s all i cared about. Then one day the light bulb went off and i realized that there’s always going to be someone stronger or bigger than you are. The only way to continue to enjoy what i was doing was to be better than i was previously. I now compete to beat my previous best numbers. I don’t care what the other competitors are doing or what their numbers are.

I really hope you take some of what i’ve said to heart. There’s no grey area here. I’m right and you are wrong.

All i ask in return is a hack squat video of you going as deep as me with 6 or more plates a side :slight_smile:

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This is one of the best posts I’ve ever read.

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read about half of this bullshit, my 2 cents are.

If you would have just checked your “im strong your not ego” at the door you could have made this a lot better for yourself, and got some nice help from these people on here.
I have been coming to this site for years, and learned a lot (even though i rarely post).
I used to think i was strong like you “think” you are, my lifts where bad, my depth was shit, and i was a bench press gym rat.
I was 21, 185lbs and benching 350. DL like 295 and never squat 1 time.
Should i have got on here and been like " hey guys your bench sucks, learn to be like me"
Im so glad i worked on my form and started to dl and squat the proper way, i have no pain ever after a work out and my numbers always go up.

If you really wanna just have big numbers and brag about your lifts, do box squats for 600lbs, do decline bench for 405 reps and dead lift off high pins for 550lbs sets of 10. Just be “that” guy.

Getting out of bed in the morning, or night, and just getting into a gym is an accomplishment and im glad i share the same love for that as you all do, but this OP is the type of person that ruins it for the rest of us.

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[quote]kakno wrote:

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
This has been very entertaining and i’ve enjoyed every moment but i’m now going to try and be serious.

OP, you came here begging the question- “Are people here not trying very hard??” For anyone posting on an internet site such as this, we are ALL hobbists. This is nothing more than a hobby. Some may have dellusions of being hardcore but no one is. The true hardcore people don’t post on internet sites. They are living the shit 24/7. It’s all they do. They could care less about how blessed you think you are or how big your frame is. They are focused on one thing- Being the best. They don’t care what others think on the internet.

Even us that compete are doing it as a hobby. We have lives outside the gym. I’ll give you a reality check. Right now in China, somewhere, there is a little girl who weighs half of what you do and she is squatting more weight than you can ATG with perfect form. The reason- she’s been doing it since she could walk.

I know i’ve been busting your balls, but you really do deserve it. I really hope many years from now you look back and say- “damn i really had no idea what i was talking about. I should have shut the fuck up, asked some intelligent questions, learned a few things”. Right now all you are doing is making excuses for poor form while at the same time boasting about how much better you are than pretty much everyone else. The true elite don’t give a fuck what everone else is doing. They spend their entire time critiquing themselves. They will never live up to their own expectations.

Stop saying you are going to run away and come back in a year to show us all how great you’ve become. 1. we won’t remember who you are when you do come back and 2. Who cares what anyone on an internet site thinks about you. It really is all about your own expectations of yourself.

You aren’t special. None of us are. Trust me on this. I used to compete with the sole intention of beating others. That’s all i cared about. Then one day the light bulb went off and i realized that there’s always going to be someone stronger or bigger than you are. The only way to continue to enjoy what i was doing was to be better than i was previously. I now compete to beat my previous best numbers. I don’t care what the other competitors are doing or what their numbers are.

I really hope you take some of what i’ve said to heart. There’s no grey area here. I’m right and you are wrong.

All i ask in return is a hack squat video of you going as deep as me with 6 or more plates a side :slight_smile:

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This is one of the best posts I’ve ever read.[/quote]

QFT, should be stickied.
Thanks, mm.

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[quote]FattyFat wrote:

[quote]kakno wrote:

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
This has been very entertaining and i’ve enjoyed every moment but i’m now going to try and be serious.

OP, you came here begging the question- “Are people here not trying very hard??” For anyone posting on an internet site such as this, we are ALL hobbists. This is nothing more than a hobby. Some may have dellusions of being hardcore but no one is. The true hardcore people don’t post on internet sites. They are living the shit 24/7. It’s all they do. They could care less about how blessed you think you are or how big your frame is. They are focused on one thing- Being the best. They don’t care what others think on the internet.

Even us that compete are doing it as a hobby. We have lives outside the gym. I’ll give you a reality check. Right now in China, somewhere, there is a little girl who weighs half of what you do and she is squatting more weight than you can ATG with perfect form. The reason- she’s been doing it since she could walk.

I know i’ve been busting your balls, but you really do deserve it. I really hope many years from now you look back and say- “damn i really had no idea what i was talking about. I should have shut the fuck up, asked some intelligent questions, learned a few things”. Right now all you are doing is making excuses for poor form while at the same time boasting about how much better you are than pretty much everyone else. The true elite don’t give a fuck what everone else is doing. They spend their entire time critiquing themselves. They will never live up to their own expectations.

Stop saying you are going to run away and come back in a year to show us all how great you’ve become. 1. we won’t remember who you are when you do come back and 2. Who cares what anyone on an internet site thinks about you. It really is all about your own expectations of yourself.

You aren’t special. None of us are. Trust me on this. I used to compete with the sole intention of beating others. That’s all i cared about. Then one day the light bulb went off and i realized that there’s always going to be someone stronger or bigger than you are. The only way to continue to enjoy what i was doing was to be better than i was previously. I now compete to beat my previous best numbers. I don’t care what the other competitors are doing or what their numbers are.

I really hope you take some of what i’ve said to heart. There’s no grey area here. I’m right and you are wrong.

All i ask in return is a hack squat video of you going as deep as me with 6 or more plates a side :slight_smile:

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This is one of the best posts I’ve ever read.[/quote]

QFT, should be stickied.
Thanks, mm.

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x3
in all honesty this is probably the best and most thought provoking post to ever be written on these forums.

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[quote]Louisville1982 wrote:
read about half of this bullshit, my 2 cents are.

If you would have just checked your “im strong your not ego” at the door you could have made this a lot better for yourself, and got some nice help from these people on here.
I have been coming to this site for years, and learned a lot (even though i rarely post).
I used to think i was strong like you “think” you are, my lifts where bad, my depth was shit, and i was a bench press gym rat.
I was 21, 185lbs and benching 350. DL like 295 and never squat 1 time.
Should i have got on here and been like " hey guys your bench sucks, learn to be like me"
Im so glad i worked on my form and started to dl and squat the proper way, i have no pain ever after a work out and my numbers always go up.

If you really wanna just have big numbers and brag about your lifts, do box squats for 600lbs, do decline bench for 405 reps and dead lift off high pins for 550lbs sets of 10. Just be “that” guy.

Getting out of bed in the morning, or night, and just getting into a gym is an accomplishment and im glad i share the same love for that as you all do, but this OP is the type of person that ruins it for the rest of us. [/quote]

not to open a whole new can of worms but a) who are you even? and b) when did box squat become the “easy” squat variation?

you are telling me, you can load up 600lbs, sit down on a box and settle, and then stand back up again? since the mantra of this thread is such, i will continue the trend. video please?

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in all honesty this thread is the biggest collection of shit on this site except for a few very good posts.

just wondering what happens next here…

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[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
just got back from my training session and i was looking forward to a super deep hack squat video with 16 plates and all i have is a quarter squat video with a million form issues. i’m dissapointed.

i could write a book on all the things you need to do to fix that squat but i’m sure you alreay know what those are so i won’t bother.

where’s the hack squat video?

and for your viewing entertainment, here’s one of my squats.

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and my wrist are only 7 3/4’s inches around WTF??[/quote]

You are a monster that is all

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Hmmm, 26 pages.

Let’s see if we can all make it a solid 40!!!

40 whole pages of bullshit sounds way better than a measly 26.

Come on, people! A few more “what’s wrong with your face” and “I dare you to shoot a video so you can injure yourself for my own viewing pleasure” and we can coast!

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[quote]deadliftgoal500 wrote:
in all honesty this thread is the biggest collection of shit on this site except for a few very good posts.

just wondering what happens next here…[/quote]

Some of us are trying to help, but its become like casting pearls before swine.

Pic related.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

Come on, people! A few more “what’s wrong with your face” and “I dare you to shoot a video so you can injure yourself for my own viewing pleasure” and we can coast![/quote]

Haha, so true, this just needs to end.

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[quote]bugeishaAD wrote:
Squat looked like 3 plates per side? Couldn’t tell.

Regardless, a 315x6 or a 405x6 squat is legit within a few months training (I’m only at 455x6 ATG after a couple years, so I guess I have a lot to learn from you!). Form didn’t look too pretty though, def work on that.

Def wanna see that front squat. 400 is legit weight big man.[/quote]

bro, you have been doing this for years, he has been doing this for a couple months. There is nothing he can teach you. he is just naturally stronger than most of us. If you have read any of his posts outside of this thread, you would know that.

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[quote]Am14g08 wrote:
Does this mean that no-one wants to know that my weight in clothes and on a full stomach is already up to 245lbs, and that my arms are ALREADY, past 19 inches now?
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No.

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i dead lift 295 the first time i ever did it, and i was benching 350. how is that a lie ? why would i lie about that op ? Its obviously stupid, but if you do nothing but upper body and bench for like 2 years, its not hard to reach. And as for the box squat, depending on the height of the box, (the op squat depth) then yes 600lbs that high on a box isn’t impressive. With a wife stance, your hammies would hit the high box before being anywhere near 90 degrees. And who am I ? im someone who just reads the articles on the site, buys Biotest products, and reads this shit before work and gym. sorry for posting, i know i shouldnt

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oh wait, being on a forums and having tons of post makes you cool, guess i should post more often

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AmIAGoat, you could use a little humility, my friend. I’m not talking about this forum, either. Leave your ego at home when you go to the gym. Work on getting your form tight and fairly strict. No swinging curls, bouncing bench presses, or half reps. It WILL benefit you in the long run to correct all of this now.

Knock at least 200 pounds off of your squat and work on your depth and tightness. You were well above parallel on all your reps, and your lower back was taking over the movement. When you compare squats (which was part of the original post of this thread, stating how much stronger you are), it’s assumed that you’re going at least to parallel. When you post what you can curl, it’s assumed that you’re curling strict reps. A bench press must start at lockout, touch your chest, and return to lockout. Any other way, and you lose the comparison of strength.

But again, as MarauderMeat and others stated: Who cares about the comparison? As long as I’m moving more weight this month than I was last month, I’m happy.

I want you to remember something when it comes to reducing the weight. It will help you deal with the shot to the ego: FORCE = mass x acceleration. So accelerate the bar as fast as you can on every rep, and that will make up for the reduced weight.

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[quote]actionboy wrote:

[quote]Louisville1982 wrote:
read about half of this bullshit, my 2 cents are.

If you would have just checked your “im strong your not ego” at the door you could have made this a lot better for yourself, and got some nice help from these people on here.
I have been coming to this site for years, and learned a lot (even though i rarely post).
I used to think i was strong like you “think” you are, my lifts where bad, my depth was shit, and i was a bench press gym rat.
I was 21, 185lbs and benching 350. DL like 295 and never squat 1 time.
Should i have got on here and been like " hey guys your bench sucks, learn to be like me"
Im so glad i worked on my form and started to dl and squat the proper way, i have no pain ever after a work out and my numbers always go up.

If you really wanna just have big numbers and brag about your lifts, do box squats for 600lbs, do decline bench for 405 reps and dead lift off high pins for 550lbs sets of 10. Just be “that” guy.

Getting out of bed in the morning, or night, and just getting into a gym is an accomplishment and im glad i share the same love for that as you all do, but this OP is the type of person that ruins it for the rest of us. [/quote]

not to open a whole new can of worms but a) who are you even? and b) when did box squat become the “easy” squat variation?

you are telling me, you can load up 600lbs, sit down on a box and settle, and then stand back up again? since the mantra of this thread is such, i will continue the trend. video please?[/quote]

i just got back from doing box squats earlier and immediately had the same thought, they are hard as fuck, and something the OP might consider trying- you set the box at parallel so you know whether or not you hit your depth. Its a great way to keep it honest as you cant bullshit yourself into thinking you got down, especially on those heavier sets where some have a tendency to go shallow, not to mention reinforcing good form (sitting back) and hitting the posterior chain.