[quote]Am14g08 wrote:
but… at the same time as per the poster above, whilst he looks good shirtless, I have quite a lot of skinny friends who look like that [/quote]
you have a lot of “skinny” friends who look as good as stu?
i need to get out more as most of my “big muscle” friends couldn’t hold a candle to (usbf pro bodybuilder) stu.
keep smashing those weights on the way to 20’s!
Mate
firstly I think the answer to your question is yes… if your hitting those numbers and gaining muscualr mass then you are genetically fortunate but I also believe there are guys that are misguided on here i.e. not training correctly, focusing too much on supplements, and not measuring and monitoring progress. Regardless dude keep it up and keep enjoying the training.
Cheers
I wish I was that strong when I started. I’m pretty sure I couldn’t bench a more a plate a side. Now 80 or so lbs heavier I still can just do 2.
DAMN GENETICS!
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[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
[quote]Am14g08 wrote:
[quote]Chi-Towns-Finest wrote:
[quote]Davinci.v2 wrote:
[quote]NoWheyOut wrote:
looks like you need to strip 3 inches of fat off those arms…[/quote]
Agreed. You’re so proud about your 18 inch arms that are covered in bacon. Listen, if you were to drop down to a level of leanness which allowed you to display even a degree of muscularity, your arms would most likely be around 14-15 inches from the looks of it.[/quote]
That was my sentiment exactly.
I see fat bitches at BK with 18" arms, big fucking deal.[/quote]
Just looked at your profile and credit to you that you have a decent base… and look good. – altho you are 3 years older than me.
As for me it’s just as well then that withthin the next year I guarantee that I will have over 20" and maybe 21" arms…
I’m going to get so big and strong, that by the time the day comes that I need to cut, I will be in NO DOUBT, that I will have an amazing physique under there for the time the fat needs to come off.
You can do things your way, and try and stay lean and slowly work up, and not be able to take advantage of the benefits of increased weight ---- growth of structure, bone, e.t.c to accomodate for the extra weight, increased strength from better leverages and shorter ROM e.t.c not to mention enjoyment of eating food…
and I will do things my way.
And maybe in another 3 years we can check on how we are both doing?
I can guarantee to you all in this thread that I will have arms over 20" within the next year
I WILL bench press over 400lbs within the next year
I WILL deadlift over 650lbs within the next year
I WILL Squat over 600lbs within the next year
so that will be by 31/10/2011 and you are all welcome to hold me to those things…
Best of luck man… we will see which approach is best in a few years.
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You are aware of course that you may just be starting off from a better strength level than most people, but then may possibly hit your limit quickly right? Might want to reel in that ego a bit. Sure some people were rubbed the wrong way by your thread, simply because you did come across as an arrogant jerk. If you have indeed only been training as long as you claim, then there may not have been much actual ‘progress’, merely a display of your natural strength levels. The videos seem to support your claimed lifting stats, but unless you can actually produce physical evidence of progress, no one in a bodybuilding forum will be very impressed. Keep the ego in check a bit. Chi-Town has certainly walked the walk, and you might want to try more than a couple of steps yourself before you start making such bold statements.
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Could be… but could also be that my limit is much further off and higher than most people…?? Who says there has to be a limit though anyway? Why even mention it, i’ve only just started training… it’s obviously not going to be anytime soon.
Also, you look great… and clearly have followed a very different route to get to where you are than I will be, which might be why you don’t like what i’ve written. But IMHO the guys who seem to bulk up huge ala X, and get freaky strong, are the ones who end up with an ultimately “denser” look, - than the guys who follow the more traditional bb route like you do, when they do diet down, because of the factors related to attaining that higher weight which i’ve already mentioned.
Also i’m not going to start any bb-style training until i’ve got my strength levels to a point where I can be hitting really good big weights in the 8-12 rep ranges. No point pumping up with light weight.
but… at the same time as per the poster above, whilst he looks good shirtless, I have quite a lot of skinny friends who look like that, doesn’t mean they are that good at lifting or that big, or even that they look like anything other than skinny people in clothes… having “teh ripped abz” is really not that hard. I could probably eat nothing for the next two months then go on the ratemyphysique section on here and get more compliments than I would now, but i’d have actually taken about 1million steps backwards.
I bet i’ve got more lbm already than the guy who attacked me for my burger king arms already does. Just got the tape measure out and if I really flex hard tapes already hitting nearly 18 and a quarter… maybe I can get 20’s in a few months? Scales already up to 229lbs this morning, my actual fat level also feels like it’s DECREASING, even though it hasn’t been obvious in photos… maybe it’s because i’ve increased my muscle mass in the last two months?
Thanks anyway. Time for me to go to the gym now, maybe get some more vids, and set some more pr’s this morning.
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I’ve read this whole thread with interest, and have held off posting - until now.
I don’t feel threatened by you mate - i’m not a bodybuilder - and neither are you. You’re a young, inexperienced wanker. You’re big, but then you’re overweight (not obese, but pretty well covered and not healthy looking) and clearly not very athletic either.
You’re also very, very, very arrogant and frankly you’ve achieved nothing so far that literally thousands of other people haven’t done. I’m also baffled by X and Bones blowing smoke up your arse but there you go - i’m sure i’ll continue to be baffled by many things.
I’m super keen to hear how you go over the next couple years, coz you might be a freak, but then you might just drop out next week. In my 29 years on god’s green earth i’ve seen a lot of tossers fall by the wayside, even if they were talented. IF you stick around, and IF your lifts keep improving incredibly, then i’ll give you some respect,
-but here’s the deal - no one gets any respect at all for being an inexperienced wanker and being slightly strong.
Your approach to getting big and strong is one that a fair few take, but subtly telling Stew (who’s one of those people you should be listening to, just quietly) that you know better at 20 years and 2 months of training is pulling the piss in my opinion. Give it 10 years or so and you might start to think about things like general health and well being, and insulin resistance, and blood pressure - but hey, you’re 20 and invincible, right??
I weigh 76kg (178 - ish pounds) and I just deadlifted 400 pounds for the first time and you know what? No one on here gives a shit. And I don’t expect them to, because it’s not all that impressive. I’m happy and that’s all that really counts.
So try keeping your mouth shut for five seconds and learn something. Constantly claiming how NOT GOOD you are etc, and then being an arrogant child fools me not.
I’ve just watched this thread from the start,for some reason I knew you would pull through.
Anyway where about’s in the uk are you based?I’m only around 180 @ 5’6", but wouldn’t mind doing a session with you; if it wouldn’t be to far to travel.I have been power lifting training for few years and been real strict,(even though my arms are probably only 15" haven’t measured them) doing my first comp next year.
Maybe you should check sugdenbarbell out, they’re uk based and a bit more forgiving.
Good progress if you want to meet up for a sess then post on here or pm me.
Cheers keep up the good work!
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Ok. Now I truly believe you’ve gotten your hands on some pics and videos and that this has been an elaborate trolling attempt. Everyone comparing you to celtics is dead on. If that isn’t the case, then God Damn it you’re dumb.
Well you seem legit,but at the same time most of the lads I train with I have met off the net, I travel 70 miles every Saturday morning to train strongman;its what you have to do to train with stronger people and become stronger.
Besides we will be training in a gym its not like I’m going to rape you there is it?!
Good weight on the hack squat, terrible range of motion though. Much too shallow.
Good job on the other lifts they’re very solid for a beginner, but I think you’re opinion on physiques and peoples physiques are slightly off base. Bodybuilding, has less to do with weight lifted and much more to do with the finished product: your physique. You are professing to be such a newb, why don’t you listen a little to those who have been and done what you apparently want to do rather than act as if you have it made?
Not trying to call bullshit on your accomplishments or anything, but in your Deadlift vid I can only see 5 plates a side, not 6 (for a total of 172kg - which is still super fucking impressive for a newbie). Might wanna just double check your workout log (if you keep one).
Keep up the good work mate.
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[quote]Am14g08 wrote:
[quote]ebomb5522 wrote:
Good weight on the hack squat, terrible range of motion though. Much too shallow.
Good job on the other lifts they’re very solid for a beginner, but I think you’re opinion on physiques and peoples physiques are slightly off base. Bodybuilding, has less to do with weight lifted and much more to do with the finished product: your physique. You are professing to be such a newb, why don’t you listen a little to those who have been and done what you apparently want to do rather than act as if you have it made?
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I went a bit deeper, on the first couple … but yes… it was still parellel for me though, my thighs are quite long and lower portion of the limb quite short, so I don’t have to go down that far too reach parellel, same with my squatting, I do seem to have a leverage advantage at squatting. Also I didn’t want to go too deep because I was feeling a bit of a pushing sensation at the bottom of my back towards the bottom, so I didn’t want to go as deep as possible, because my back was a bit “tight.”
And it was first time I had done the movement.
But your other point is taken on-board.
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Yor strength levels are good, but especially since you are a beginner, and you have the natural ability to lift more weight than others, more reason to start doing every exercise with good form, meaning on hack squats going down a bit further and using less weight, or squats, etc. If you want muscle growth, you need to focus on form and stimulating the muscle, not just weight.
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[quote]Am14g08 wrote:
[quote]The Sletchman wrote:
Not trying to call bullshit on your accomplishments or anything, but in your Deadlift vid I can only see 5 plates a side, not 6 (for a total of 172kg - which is still super fucking impressive for a newbie). Might wanna just double check your workout log (if you keep one).
Keep up the good work mate.[/quote]
uhhhhh… when the deadlift hits the top pause the video and look. You CAN CLEARLY SEE the 3 big plates… they all seperate at the top… you can’t see that on the floor.[/quote]
Fair enough, and my bad. You got an odd assortment of plate shapes at your gym. The way they stuck together at the bottom threw me off.
Good luck on going for 250, keep up the intensity and work on improving your form and you’ll be a very bad dude in the future.
For your squats you might wanna try to improve your flexibility a bit - I had some problems with getting below parallel on mine because I had shithouse flexibility, improved that and started squatting arse to padded floor.
[quote]CrushKillDestroy wrote:
I’m also baffled by X and Bones blowing smoke up your arse but there you go - i’m sure i’ll continue to be baffled by many things.
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A difference of opinion on the internet baffles you? Why? Ill laugh just like everyone else if he winds up being a fat guy who never deadlifts 600lbs. I just dont really care if someone is arrogant. He’s a random douche on the internet, whatever. He can act like Kanye West for all I care.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]CrushKillDestroy wrote:
I’m also baffled by X and Bones blowing smoke up your arse but there you go - i’m sure i’ll continue to be baffled by many things.
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A difference of opinion on the internet baffles you? Why? Ill laugh just like everyone else if he winds up being a fat guy who never deadlifts 600lbs. I just dont really care if someone is arrogant. He’s a random douche on the internet, whatever. He can act like Kanye West for all I care. [/quote]
Exactly…and that is specifically why I won’t join in. It isn’t anyone’s damn business how “arrogant” someone else is unless it directly affects you or is holding that person back.
Why do so many people feel it is their job to try to put people in their place?
Some people may be more humble than others, but guess what, if you can back up the shit you are talking, then no one should be saying anything against it.
I don’t get what drives people to act like some sort of morality police even after they get shown that the guy seen as “arrogant” can back up what he’s saying.
If this guy had talked shit and NOT backed it up, THEN we should have all joined in.
I don’t see any group this large running after the douches who call me out weekly who have ZERO pics in their profile…but somehow this one guy catches the attention of the whole website?
WTF??
Isn’t that really fucking backwards?