Anyone Into Crossfit?

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[quote]IrishMarc wrote:
Meh its another exercise fad.

Like others have said if it gets you to exercise sweet.

On the other hand if you are using it to train to be the best at a sport then your are seriously fucking your chances. [/quote]

In so few words you demonstrated that you have no clue what you are talking about. Bravo.

CrossFit is NOT sport specific training. CrossFit SHOULD be modified to suit your individual needs.

There are CrossFit “specialty” programs like CrossFit Endurance, american football, gymnastics, olympic lifting, basic barbell training strength bias, etc. It is an active and live community, and is changing by the month, based on results.

This is important. It is based on results. Objectively.

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Crossfit is better for people who have limited experience in weight training.

And little interest in a normal weightlifting regime and lifestyle.

Its fine for its intent, getting normal people into decent shape, but we arent normal people.

/thread.

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I will add that if you are getting weaker by doing CrossFit…

Your strength was way too high compared to other fitness qualities.

You don’t have your recovery stuff tuned in.

You don’t respond well to low volume strength work , and you need to follow a strength bias hybrid.

My good friend, who has been CrossFitting exclusively for a couple years, can powersnatch his bodyweight, DL 2.5x, standing press his bodyweight, and clean and jerk a 135lb barbell 30 times in 10 minutes. One arm at a time.

Most of you have no clue what you’re talking about, and if you are not responding to the program, you need to seek help from a trainer or expert to modify it so that you DO respond.

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[quote]Westclock wrote:
Crossfit is better for people who have limited experience in weight training.

And little interest in a normal weightlifting regime and lifestyle.

Its fine for its intent, getting normal people into decent shape, but we arent normal people.

/thread.[/quote]

What is “shape”? Bodybuilding?

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[quote]gi2eg wrote:
I will add that if you are getting weaker by doing CrossFit…

Your strength was way too high compared to other fitness qualities.

You don’t have your recovery stuff tuned in.

You don’t respond well to low volume strength work , and you need to follow a strength bias hybrid.

My good friend, who has been CrossFitting exclusively for a couple years, can powersnatch his bodyweight, DL 2.5x, standing press his bodyweight, and clean and jerk a 135lb barbell 30 times in 10 minutes. One arm at a time.

Most of you have no clue what you’re talking about, and if you are not responding to the program, you need to seek help from a trainer or expert to modify it so that you DO respond.

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The only impressive crossfit guys I have seen are generally powerlifters, or used to be powerlifters.

Ive been training longer than you and I do know what Im talking about.

General full body workouts are not the best ways to build strength or endurance or anything.

Its a fad and its interesting, but not superior

Im not really interested in starting an argument on why crossfit is a halfassed way to train so I will leave it at that.

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[quote]hippy wrote:
Crossfit is about taking ‘secrets’ out of body improvement. It is about empowering everybody with the skills to become a physical badass…[/quote]

what is this, a f’ing advertisement?

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[quote]gi2eg wrote:

CrossFit is NOT sport specific training. CrossFit SHOULD be modified to suit your individual needs.

CrossFit olympic lifting

This is important. It is based on results. Objectively. [/quote]

I want to address this specifically

CrossFit Olympic lifting

As an olympic lifter I would like to ask, “why would I follow a crossfit olympic lifting program when the Soviets, Russians, Bulgarians, and Chinese have been studying Olympic lifting for close to a century and have almost perfected the art”.

How many world champions have Modified Crossfit Programs developed? None. How many world champions has the Chinese, Soviets, Russians, and Bulgarians produced? More than any CrossFit Olympic Lifting program will ever produce.

I’m sorry, but Crossfit seems ideal for my mom or dad who just wants to make their quality of life better. But for someone who wants to reach the highest echelons of a sport, it simply cannot compete with practices established decades ago.

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[quote]Westclock wrote:

Im not really interested in starting an argument on why crossfit is a halfassed way to train so I will leave it at that.[/quote]

I know you know your shit. But clearly, CrossFit is nowhere to be found within your shit.

CrossFit strength days are generally NOT full body, as you can see with a quick glance at the mainpage workout. There is only 1 lift on strength days.

Upper tier CrossFit competitors would place very high at most powerlifting competitions, and would absolutely smoke them when it comes to conditioning.

here are a couple of tests for those of you who have a triple bodyweight deadlift, bodyweight standing strict press, and 2.5x bodyweight squat at 175lbs bodyweight or higher:

Set a countdown timer for 20 minutes. Do as many rounds as you can of 5 pullups, 10 pushups, 15 bodyweight squats, full range of motion on everything, kip if you know how.

Goal= 25 rounds in 20 minutes

3 rounds for time:

400m run
21 DB or KB swings, 35lbs or 1 pood
12 pullups

Goal = Less than 8 minutes

5 rounds for time:

5 deadlifts, 275lbs
10 burpees (clap over head while in air)

Goal = Less than 4 minutes

Good luck, be safe.

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[quote]gi2eg wrote:
IrishMarc wrote:
Meh its another exercise fad.

Like others have said if it gets you to exercise sweet.

On the other hand if you are using it to train to be the best at a sport then your are seriously fucking your chances.

In so few words you demonstrated that you have no clue what you are talking about. Bravo.

CrossFit is NOT sport specific training. CrossFit SHOULD be modified to suit your individual needs.

There are CrossFit “specialty” programs like CrossFit Endurance, american football, gymnastics, olympic lifting, basic barbell training strength bias, etc. It is an active and live community, and is changing by the month, based on results.

This is important. It is based on results. Objectively. [/quote]

First put your fucking pants back on.

Second get off crossfit’s dick.

I know enough to see that any system that tries to encompass every training methodology under the sun and cobbles it together into one session is going to suck for anybody who wants to get the most out of their sessions.

If you want to get the most out of your strength sessions do them on their own. Same goes with EVERY fitness attribute (conditioning sports specific skills etc.).

There are nuances granted but not enough for me to give a shit.

If you want general fitness do what ever the hell makes you happy.

If your looking to be an elite athlete and are doing cross fit you need your fucking head examined.

Anybody with a bit of common sense can see that by doing clean and jerks as a conditioning drill you are not getting the best out of the exercise.

I’m not going to get dragged into some bullshit debate the facts are the fact if you don’t like it go do some kettle bell swings or some shit.

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Am I the only one who is tired of seeing this same argument over every time someone types “Crossfit”?

This topic does not belong in the Strength Forum. It is GPP.

There is no perfect system. Everyone responds differently and has different goals. Do what works for you. And stop trying to push your crap off onto others.

I hate physical culture cultist/gurus and Crossfit has more than its share.

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[quote]sjoconn wrote:
Am I the only one who is tired of seeing this same argument over every time someone types “Crossfit”?

This topic does not belong in the Strength Forum. It is GPP.

There is no perfect system. Everyone responds differently and has different goals. Do what works for you. And stop trying to push your crap off onto others.

I hate physical culture cultist/gurus and Crossfit has more than its share. [/quote]

I am tired as well. But I refuse to let misinformation spread. If someone is looking to excel at a strength sport, and another comes in saying “hey use a modified crossfit method and you’ll be great!” I will call that individual out. I do not want my respective sport tainted by gurus spreading lies.

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[quote]Invictica wrote:
I am tired as well. But I refuse to let misinformation spread. If someone is looking to excel at a strength sport, and another comes in saying “hey use a modified crossfit method and you’ll be great!” I will call that individual out. I do not want my respective sport tainted by gurus spreading lies.

[/quote]

I can understand that and agree with it. This is the work of cultist/gurus who push the “my system is perfect and you will never need anything else” BS.

This argument has been rehashed so many times on this very site that a simple search should answer questions. This whole thread could have been avoided with a site search or a simple google search by the OP.

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A lot of the time you will just see crossfitters talking about how crossfit makes them better at doing everyday things, such as having to put groceries on the top shelf and saving babies from burning buildings.

Don’t forget that if you are ever trying to run away from somebody and have to climb over a wall, you will be glad you did your kipping pullups rather than those pathetic strict pullups.

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[quote]Sword wrote:
A lot of the time you will just see crossfitters talking about how crossfit makes them better at doing everyday things, such as having to put groceries on the top shelf and saving babies from burning buildings. Don’t forget that if you are ever trying to run away from somebody and have to climb over a wall, you will be glad you did your kipping pullups rather than those pathetic strict pullups.[/quote]

I understand the difference. I have been through MANY obstacle course and have had to go through windows and over walls in full kit with a rifle, etc. I also know what it takes to stimulate lat development for me. 2 different things, 2 different goals. Why is this so confusing?

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[quote]sjoconn wrote:
Sword wrote:
A lot of the time you will just see crossfitters talking about how crossfit makes them better at doing everyday things, such as having to put groceries on the top shelf and saving babies from burning buildings. Don’t forget that if you are ever trying to run away from somebody and have to climb over a wall, you will be glad you did your kipping pullups rather than those pathetic strict pullups.

I understand the difference. I have been through MANY obstacle course and have had to go through windows and over walls in full kit with a rifle, etc. I also know what it takes to stimulate lat development for me. 2 different things, 2 different goals. Why is this so confusing?[/quote]

Because crossfit is teh holy grailz!

And if you need to train to put away groceries I’m just glad your finally doing SOME form of physical activity other than wanking off in your lazy boy.

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You don’t understand cause you don’t want to.

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[quote]gi2eg wrote:
Westclock wrote:

Upper tier CrossFit competitors would place very high at most powerlifting competitions, and would absolutely smoke them when it comes to conditioning.

[/quote]

All the “upper tier” crossfit guys have trained in bodybuilding and power lifting for YEARS.

Of course they would place ok at POWERLIFTING comps.

Crossfit is new, there is no guys who have been training their whole life with crossfit.

All the “upper tier” crossfit guys are powerlifters, bodybuilders and strongmen that switched over.

If you think Im wrong post me a list of the upper tier guys. Do it now.

Crossfit is like Strongman training for pussies.

Strongman competitors would smoke crossfitters at their own game.

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I use crossfit techniqeus to add to my repetoire. Gymnastic rings, Thrusters, sprints, overhead squats, tire flips, sled drags etc.Variety to keep the workouts spicy.

Luckily the command I work for has tires and such in our workout area and we keep the sledge and kettlebells in our hooch to take out there as necessary. That makes it even more convenient.

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Everytime this comes up, I’m amazed at how dumb people can be. It’s like reading youtube comments…

Crossfit is NOT designed for those looking to excel in a strength sport, so it’s stupid to keep saying “crossfitters aren’t as strong as…”

I train at a crossfit gym with multiple powerlifters and olympic lifters. None of them do crossfit for their workouts, unless it’s a supplement.

Bottom line, is its not a strength development program, it’s a metabolic conditioning program that includes some strength training. If this is what you’re after, then it’s a fine workout and the facilities are usually head and shoulders above a commercial gym (ours has bands, chains, safety bars, reverse hypers, bumper plates, cambered bar, texas pl bars, kettlebells, stones, etc).

However, if you want to compete in oly lifting, then DO AN OLY PROGRAM.

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“I have been through MANY obstacle course”

Ever been on the O-Course on the SAS compound in Singapore? Fekking awesome.