I was just wandering what was everyone’s opinion on anaerobic endurance work? For instance, high rep hindu squats and push-ups. I personally feel it’s necesary, for athletes anyway, to work on their anaerobic endurance.
First you complain that you have no motivation for football even though you could get a scholarship to a Division 1 school, and now you’re wondering if anerobic conditioning is useful for athletes.
Stop being a pussy, get yourself motivated, and get your head out of your ass.
TSB!!!
It depends on the sport!
I?m not a big fan of using external resistance to enhance anaerobic endurance. There?s better ways!
[quote]BOSS wrote:
It depends on the sport!
I?m not a big fan of using external resistance to enhance anaerobic endurance. There?s better ways!
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you serious? like what?
If I am not mistaken 400m training is probably the epitomy of anaerobic endurance. The body us trained to tolerate extremely high levels of lactic acid. All while sprinting near maximal effort!
It’s vital! That type of training is what keeps us athletes going in the 4th qt!!!
[quote]BRUCELEEWANNABE wrote:
It’s vital! That type of training is what keeps us athletes going in the 4th qt!!![/quote]
What?!
Hours later you still think you’re running on anaerobic endurance?!
Anaerobic endurance is I think is called an oxymoron. Maybe you may want to take a look at the situation along the lines of recovery rate. Oh wait I think it’s already had a few articles here on T-Nation.
Yeah, read up.
Know what’s funny about knowing you’ll get a Div I scholarship or whatevers and telling us about it here?
You don’t have it do you?
try searging pubmed.org for a artical called “Muscle performance and enzymatic adaptations to sprint interval training” Macdougall et al 1998
should be the sort of thing that you are looking for.
He cant have the scholar ship if hes goign to be a sophmore I think thats what hes saids hes going to be.
If i recall right coaches cant even talk to u by ncaa rules intel May when your a junior.
And second of ive never heard of a junior or a sophmore being so postive they can get in a d1 school. people who can are ussually more modest and say they hope they can get or something along that line.
LMAO, I still can’t get over this…
Anaerobic Endurance.
Chubs, what articles deal with this? I can’t recall any, but would love to read up on this subject.
O yea, and why is everyone laughing at anaerobic endurance (the use of the term, etc.).
Anaerobic Endurance implies how long you are able to continue to maintain activity in an anerobic state. In other words, how long your body can go from start to finish without utilizing oxygen.
What you guys are talking about is the ability for the Anaerobic system to replenish itself to go again. This ability comes from the AEROBIC SYSTEM to utilize the lactic acid produced by the anaerobic system and clear out the lactic acid. ALSO available Pi to bond with ADP to replenish the ready-access ATP stores for use in the ATP/PC system and Fast Glycolitic system which are the essence of Anaerobic work.
Thus, you need to specify… are you talking about Anaerobic Endurance as in your ability to maintain activity in an anaerobic state or are you talking about training your body to replenish the Anaerobic energy systems.
Cause if you are talking about anaerobic endurance… we aren’t getting much beyond 1 minute.
Studies have show that the aerobic system is utilized much more than many would like to admit.
[quote]buckeye75 wrote:
O yea, and why is everyone laughing at anaerobic endurance (the use of the term, etc.).[/quote]
Anaerobic energy systems are used for short, intense physical effort, such as the 100m sprint. Junior here means aerobic endurance, which is used for longer-term physical activity, such as jogging longer distances.
TriGWU, Massif (or anyone else who wants to chime in, particuraly the S&C coaches on tonight)
Thanks for clearing that up, I thought that was the reason but I just wanted to make sure. What other factors come into play with the athletes trying to repelenish the ATP-PC system? Can you point me to any articles on the internet that talk about energy sytem developmen for athletes.
So is there any reason to have anaerobic athletes doing anaerobic conditionig (sprints, shuttles, etc. using minimal recovery) or should they stay in the aerobic zone? What about doing specific metabolic conditoning for the sport itself (is there any reasoning for this?
One last thing. For anaerobic athletes how do you train the aerobic system without comprimising the power and speed that they need? Do you use typical long distance running or Charlie Francis style tempo runs?
I have my thresholds and VO2 max tested every 1.5-2 months depending on my build cycles. Most of my anaerobic training involves anaerobic recovering or lactic acid clearing. I am sure this isn’t the scientific term.
Before I continue, this applies to the cycling discipline of triathlon in that drafting is not allowed. Thus, you are only permitted a 15 second window to pass from 1 length behind to 1 length ahead of a cyclist. If you could imagine this involves a brief sprint and recovery. The problem being that you have to sprint and then recover back into your pace. There is a big difference in sprinting to walk and sprinting to pace. This involves a lot of recovery work.
I have had my best experience w/ pick-up type drills.
During my speed-endurance emphasis weeks I utilize this set-up:
16-20min / 3200m Warm-Up
4x:
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400m @ 5k Pace
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400m @ >Jog
4x: -
200m @ RPE 7/8
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200m @ >Jog
4x: -
100m @ Full Sprint
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300m @ >Jog
8min / 1600m Cool-Down
The key being that you never stop or walk throughout the work-out. I like this because it teaches your body to recover under exertion and not under full rest. Plus, you are utilizing the “muscle pump” to keep the blood/oxygen circulating to clear out the lactic acid.
Obviously, if you are training for something like football you woulnd’t need something with quite these distances. You might go with something like 8x 100m / 100m instead of the 4x 400m / 400m.
Let me know if this helps or even addresses your questions. Feel free to keep asking.
Also…
I like to utilize something like Scream Intervals:
20m Warm-Up → Pace
1m Full 4m Pace
1m 15s Full 3m 45s Pace
1m 30s Full 3m 30s Pace
1m 15s Full 3m 45s Pace
1m Full 4m Pace
20m Recovery (80%-90% MHR) (Focus on Pull)
1m Full 4m Pace
1m 15s Full 3m 45s Pace
1m 30s Full 3m 30s Pace
1m 15s Full 3m 45s Pace
1m Full 4m Pace
20m Cool-Down Pace → Lowest
Again, I know you aren’t in triathlon training but this is the best example I can give for what I mean by sprint - pace
6-10x200m in 32s, with 1min recovery
5x300m in 46s with 2mins recovery
these types of “tempo” workouts will help you recover in flushing out lactic acid and in the meantime help increase your work capacity…Well when it comes to sprint training at least.
What type of activity are you training for specifically?
I am training for football. Right now I am doing the Charlie Francis split for my running (2 speed, 2 tempo).
Here is a bit of what I have been doing if that helps: http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=655474