This seems overly complicated with very little benefit. Without going back to the beginning, what was the reasoning for doing 10-21 day oral-only cycles?
Good question. Probably not and I like your “better” idea as well.
I am curious if 3 weeks “on” Anadrol followed by 3 weeks “off” for a full year would do to increasing muscle mass and strength. I don’t think OP is the best trial case.
I would have liked to try this “test” especially when I was initially adding new muscle. I would like to see if I was stronger at the start of each “on” cycle throughout the year.
The question might be: Is 3 weeks “off” sufficient to recover from the liver damage of the 3 weeks “on.”
I believe that at the end of the year, I would run 8 weeks on a stack of “dry” AAS after the last “on” cycle, attempting to retain as much muscle gained from the last year. I suppose at the end of that, I good PCT plan would be in order.
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Anadrol does not aromatize but might activate estrogen repeptors itself and may cause gyno (there are cases).
Would I feel the start of gyno and how does it feel, so I dont use estrogen blocker all the time?
p.s. Would one need a PCT at all after 3 weeks or less?
(Actually I think of 10 days to 2 weeks max)
Interesting video that changes point of view on anadrol…
Some highlights
- ‘Instant’ effect on strength:
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lYOqDtYbMo#t=10m35s
- Liver damage and androgenic ?? effects:
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lYOqDtYbMo#t=17m40s
- Gyno:
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lYOqDtYbMo#t=18m36s
How to use it, 7-8 days in a row, regress from days 8-20:
(even 10 days is too much) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lYOqDtYbMo#t=21m22s
Sparing use 2-3 days a week as preworkout, once/ week for longer: - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lYOqDtYbMo#t=22m38s
My concerns are how it could it be used for body recomposition.
f.ex. when one have problems maintaining calorie deficit and don’t want to become weaker and feeling less comfortable than usual, cause of the dieting.
p.s. did not hear about PCT in this video. Some advices on using liverprotectors alongside (to soften the drug damage), but in general he do not talk about ‘cycles’ the bodyguilders do.
What I think of is… mby similar to the carb cycling used in diets to negate the effects of low carbs/ calories in a longer diet.
But, with the aid of aas…
The guy has done his research. He even made application of his findings. Visually, he has mastered the look of average genetics and all natural. He would have a difficult time convincing me that he lifted weights.
Bottom line: He is suggesting to add a nuance to a strength building program. This is for someone who wants an extra edge over the competition.
As to the OP: All high level competitors have mastered (or devoted to master) all the aspects to excel in their field. They don’t yield to their weaknesses. If your lust for food cannot be controlled, your chance for success is very limited. (heavyweight and super heavyweight competitors are an exception.)
His suggestion that competitive bodybuilders use Anadrol near a contest to look fuller is probably accurate. But it would be a water bloated fuller. That should smooth out your definition and drop your placing from the upper group to the lower group. I enjoyed that comment.
I suspect the guy might be a con artist.
With the addition of AI he could look the part.
IIRC, he used to be an arm wrestler, and was bigger, although not all that impressive. As you said, pretty average genetically. I don’t think he was lifting and hadn’t been lifting for a few years when that video came out.
Anyway, the gyno precautions stay, this guy is not the only source warning about it. I’ve had it as a teenager and I still have kind of pseudogyno cause of excessive fat.
Have the med but won’t use it, until being more clear what to do.
But I doubt I will use it more than 7-8 days in a row.
If I try it as a pre-workout, would I be able to notice gyno precautions, or when they show up it is too late?
Meanwhile I found a pretty harmless aid - I got HIGH on erythritol yesterday 
It was early evening when I usually mess up the diet.
It seems to be kind of a pre-workout. Feels great like you ate some sweet carb stuff but even better, cause you dont feel down after the spike. There are hot waves, u feel energetic.
I dont know how long you can lie your brain on that fake carb (4 cal/ 100 gram) and feel happy and upliftied
Side Effects (Estrogenic):
Oxymetholone is a highly estrogenic steroid.
Gynecomastia is often a concern during treatment, and
may present itself quite early into a cycle (particularly
when higher doses are used). At the same time water
retention can become a problem,causing a notable loss of
muscle definition as both subcutaneous water retention
and fat levels build.To avoid strong estrogenic side effects,
it may be necessary to use an anti-estrogen such as
Nolvadex® or Clomid®.
From William-Llewellyns Anabolics
So mby 25 mg anadrol + 5 mg tamoxifen (half tablets) a day
I’d be a bit skeptical of the advice just based on the fact that they are calling tamoxifen and clomid anti estrogen drugs.
There are dedicated chapters on the drugs, just generally calling it ‘anti-estrogen’
Tamoxifen citrate is a non-steroidal anti-estrogenic drug,
used widely in clinical medicine. It is specifically a Selective
Estrogen-Receptor Modulator (SERM) of the
triphenylethylene family, and possesses both estrogen
agonist and antagonist properties. As such, it may act as an
estrogen in some tissues while blocking the action of
estrogen in others.
Some more thoughts - I read somewhere that anadrol might help collagen reproduction (cant find it right now).
As I remember, I was doing some weighted pullups and body hanging stretches as well as reverse biceps curls instead of normal (to strenghten what I think is weak link in pullups).
I guess there is some trauma in brachoradialis or somewhere near the elbow joint when pulling and folding my arm.
The pain was worse but still persist, so I dont even try to do normal pullups more than 1 rep. Also cannot properly load my back doing any exercise.
I also feel it when I lift objects at certain angle and forearm rotation.
Would anadrol help in recovery?
Also would aas help to develop specific body part that is lacking?
I think I miss functional strength, endurance and muscle volume in brachoradialis and biceps near the elbow fold.
No, anadrol is going o give you a big boost in strength. If you body is not conditioned for the load you are gonna get hurt.
Deltoids and traps have a high density of androgenic binding sites. Your deltoids and traps tend to grow the most from AAS. It is a good “tell” when someone starts taking AAS. Their deltoids and traps will grow disproportionately with the rest of your skeletal muscles.
Also, IMO, this is a good opportunity to find out if you have decent genetics for benefiting from AAS. If your deltoids and traps don’t grow much when on AAS, they probably are not worth the risk taking them.
Deltoids are superb 
Ok, so I should wait for the brachioradialis (supposedly) problem to solve, or there could be other supplement for that?
It’s been 2 months allready, the pain still here, not completely resolved.
Then I could eventually use anadrol to improve pullup numbers and stamina (red blood cells)
Here is a sample cycle from the book.
As RT_Nomad mentioned, it is strange they suggest 50mg/ day oxy for beginners, while the dbol oral cycle starts 10mg/day…
20-40 mg tamoxifen seems to correspond to 50 mg anadrol so 10-20 mg should correspond to 25 mg anadrol…
There is the dbol for newbies:
Since anadrol is 45:320 (androgenic:anabolic) and dbol is 40-60:90-210, why 1/4 tab or 12.5 mg anadrol wont work ??
Finally, not sure how to dose anadrol to tamoxifen.
That’s because you don’t. Taking anadrol only will not cause high E issues in 99% of people. I’d be more worried about blood pressure and organ health.
IMO, Dianbol is the most effective AAS mg for mg. Nothing is close.
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