The most powerfull and toxic oral anabol. Why bother with that…
I can get a genuine pharma grade medicine.
Watched a blog of a guy who in general dislikes any oral steroids and almost anything but test. injections, and he using it for … cutting.
He is using it alongside test (lower dose test accordingly) and keeps at hand nolvadex for gyno issues.
He says it keeps his muscle and strength (water retention is good) when on a calloric deficit.
I think of anadrol only, half the dose (25 mg) quarter pill morning and evening.
if I take silymarin based medicine or white thistle oil (liver protection) during cycle and liv52 (herb based), would it prevent the anadrol to be metabolised in the liver?
what to use to restore natural test after anadrol? Do I need to get injections of hCG or I can just use nolvadex afterwards?
I have a super power. I can predict the future. You will use anadrol. You will get ‘swole’ and stronger for about 4-6 weeks. At which point your T levels will start to tank. You will start feeling like shit and when you stop you will feel even worse. After stopping you will lose your ‘gainz’ and wonder what happened. Worse so you will possibly have depression and fatigue while you are trying to recover. Sound fun?
Thats why I ask about some kind of pct afterwards.
And I will lower the dosage, cause it is strong anyway.
I dont want gainz, actually, I want… to aid a fat loss.
And I feel like shit anyway If succed to keep strict calorie restriction and lose more than … 1 kg (~2 pounds) per MONTH.
A healthy cut, the last time I had the nerves and discipline to do it, was … 10 kg (20 pounds) for an YEAR, and I dont have time for this…
PCT doesn’t work instantly. Sometimes it doesn’t work well at all. Your plan IMO is about the worst plan ever. If you want to go the PED route, there are much better options out there. Have you had any lab work done to see your baseline hormone levels?
AAS increase metabolism, stimulate muscle (I have troubles losing fat cause I dont have much muscle), red blood cells and increased oxygen transport, increasing energy expenditure (if u train and go on a calorie deficit)
So mostly to keep muscle and not screwing my allready screwed metabolism when dieting (at least I think so)
p.p. semaglutide, I no longer bing eat sweet stuff like I used to, but, given my age as well, It is not enough to stay low glycemic index and low carbs is not enough to loose fat at a good pace.
Keto is really hard, but moderate low carb/ balanced and slow carbs.
I never really manage to go keto, but low carb is hard enough to stay for a long time not screwing you.
So, f.ex. I am getting really screwed long way before i get rid of all the fat, about half way before I see my 4 pack clearly.
So, the cold autumn comes and I am not ready with cutting, I start to gain some weight and go to almost the start position in spring…
Year after year…
Looking to speed it up and being able to cut down (not just halfway) for half an year maximum…
I agree with this. OP’s issue seems to be self control with eating. Why take AAS which helps with building muscle, when you could take a drug that helps with self control with eating. In addition to that, the latter is likely much safer and approved by the FDA for exactly what OP needs help with.
Here you are again, looking for “Better Things for Better Living… Through Chemistry.”
If you are not blessed with reasonably good genetics, getting to a nice body composition look requires a drastic lifestyle change. You must master your weak fleshy lusts. Food must become your servant. Food can never be your master. If you cannot do this, you just are not going to get there regardless the chemistry you try.
If you insist on trying Anadrol, I have a fair amount of experience with that AAS. It is definitely not my AAS of choice. It is far too liver toxic for the benefit it provides. That said, I used it for short periods in a few of my AAS cycles. I have taken both 50mg/day and 100mg/day, but only for a period of three weeks at the start or middle of a cycle.
But I never took Anadrol alone. With my rule of three week duration use of Anadrol, it was used only as a stacked AAS. I would replace Anadrol with a less liver toxic oral AAS.
I wouldn’t trust any supplement to negate the negative effects that Anadrol would cause my liver. The risk just outweighs the benefit too far.
First you need to know that Anadrol made by Syntex was called Anadrol-50, as it was only made as a 50mg tablet.
In my circle of friends is was commonly known that Anadrol was the most liver toxic anabolic oral steroid that was available pharmaceutically. I am not saying we were accurate, but based on our dosage use of oral AAS, Anadrol had the most chemical by a factor of 10 times. (We never counted Halotestin, a 10mg tablet, because we believed it was the least effective oral AAS for putting on muscle.)
We believed Dianabol (5mg per tablet by CIBA) was not as toxic and a much better muscle builder mg for mg.
Next, know that I never took more than 25mg/day of Dianabol. We knew that oral steroids were metabolized in the liver and had a relatively much shorter half-life that the injectable AAS. For that reason we took Dianabol a few times a day to help “to flatten the curve.”
Even if Dianabol and Anadrol had exactly the same toxic effect on the liver mg for mg, 25mg/day of Dianabol spread out throughout the day (flatter curve) would be far less toxic than 50mg/day of Anadrol (single decay curve throughout the day.)
So, taking 50mg twice a day of Anadrol was more that the most Dianabol that we had heard any bodybuilder take (at that time - mid 1970’s). And we had heard of a National level bodybuilder taking 80mg/day of Dianabol and thought he was really pushing the limits of his health. I’ll not mention his name, because it was hearsay.
So is Anadrol more liver toxic mg for mg than Dianabol? I don’t know. But it was the prevailing thought in the 1970’s.
Thank you for clarifying. Reason I asked is that Anadrol-50 (to this day I believe) is prescribed to patients experiencing muscle wasting effects. People with HIV for instance. And more than likely they are taking other drugs to combat their disease that are also harsh on the liver.
Anadrol-50 is prescribed for 3-6 months according to several websites. For instance:
Anadrol Dosage and Administration
The recommended daily dose in children and adults is 1-5 mg/kg of body weight per day. The usual effective dose is 1-2 mg/kg/day but higher doses may be required, and the dose should be individualized. Response is not often immediate, and a minimum trial of three to six months should be given. Following remission, some patients may be maintained without the drug; others may be maintained on an established lower daily dosage. A continued maintenance dose is usually necessary in patients with congenital aplastic anemia
So if we were to take the recommended daily dose of 1-5mg/kg then a 100kg man would be taking 300mg of anadrol per day for three to six months. That’s quite the dose. Of course they mention numerous side effects, liver toxicity being amongst them, but obviously they concluded the pros outweigh the cons. Therefore I’m the opinion that anadrol liver toxicity is a bit overblown.
It is also supposedly not very androgenic on it’s own. There is a case report I read where a woman was prescribed a big dose of anadrol (~100 mg/day IIRC) for a long duration (again IIRC, about 18 months) and showed little virilization. I can’t find the study or I’d post it. My gut would tell me that she would be looking like a trans man after that, but apparently not. Surprising.
Interesting enough this is an exactly what is written in my 1979 PDR on page 1703 under Dosage and Administration for Anadrol-50.
Aplastic Anemia is a very deadly disease. Liver toxicity is a comparatively mild side effect.
As a side note: This 1979 edition PDR (Physicians Desk Reference) includes under Warnings: Anabolic steroids do not enhance athletic ability. How is that for some sound “follow the science” information?
You present a bad outline that will most likely end up in a bad situation. If you don’t have the discipline (routine) to maintain consistency in diet and/or training, you lack the necessary foundation to make use of any beneficial effect the AAS might have.
Also, you have only one liver. Have you seen a person with liver failure and how that presents itself? It’s a sad journey into the lowest quality of life you could possibly imagine.
