More or less clear.
Just wonder how long I can use quarter tab anadrol preworkout (12.5 mg) if it works at all.
This means non-continuous use, but several days a week (at least 2 for some workouts)
Screening would help to check liver and lipid profile after a period of use, not sure what will show for hormones.
Anadrol does not rise estrogen, it is kind of estrogenic itself.
Cannot really asses a possible danger of gyno, or am I wrong?
I would say I feel nothing from 25 mg anadrol daily.
Except if my physical condition before was really really bad, and now I just feel NORMAL with anadrol 
(taking it under the tongue in the evening).
Mby I am mistaken, but seems that morning boner is a bit more like when I was younger (now I am 45).
Actually, there were times when I had no boner in the morning (I guess it was also related with carb restrictions).
I dont even take liv52 and omega 3 regularly (forgetting about it).
Sometimes I take half a pill tamoxifen, cause I feel my nipples irritated.
But I recall feeling this irritation many times before in the past (before I know about anadrol).
I guess it depends on what I ate (f.ex. fast carbs, but not quite sure) and some circadian rhytm/ hormonal states during the day.
And sometimes the kind of fabric of my T shirt…
I would like to ask one more time - has anyone got results from 25 mg anadrol daily, prolonged usage?
The dose seems like the upper limit for women and half the dose for men.
I used 50mg pre workout (and on off days) and loved it. I can’t imagine taking it at night tho, and don’t see the point. It amped me up and got the lifts going. Probably sucks for sleep
I was doing 50mg/day recently. 25mg in the morning and 25mg 1 hour prior to WO sublingual. Worked great.
So I must feel smth from 25 mg…
Note - it is anadrol only, not an oral drug on top of injectable test/deca/e t.c.!
Or it’s fake. I don’t know where to get more genuine drug (Turkish pharma store anapolon), that was the very reason I considered it.
Or I don’t have much of anabolic/androgenic receptors, I am a low responder 
That might explain the very little to no gains when I trained regularly, slim bone structure, quite a little body hair (legs and arms look like I go to cosmetic studio for hair removal, but I would never bother to do that effort), lack of male baldness pattern, not much of a thick beard, having/ easily putting childish subcatenous fat 
Don’t know yet if I will try 50 mg/ daily, but if I am to list out this drug as not working for me, I should…
Going back to the recommended therapeutic dosage of …1-5 mg/ kg bodyweight, which we already commented as too much.
If we aim 1 mg/ kg bodyweight, 50 mg tablet is less than the minimum dosage.
Should be rather/ at least 75 mg daily. But evidences above show that 50 mg must work…
25 mg is ~0.3 mg/kg.
This means nothing. We all metabolize these drugs differently. 25mg might work great for me but not for you.
If 25mg does nothing for you then try 50mg. No need to overthink this.
Actually, yesterday I checked and I have put ~4 kg.
Since I don’t see impressive size change (neither in muscle, nor in belly and other fat), and I am constantly trying to keep low carb (the hotter the weather gets around here, the more successful I am at keeping low carb), I guess it is water retention…
Taking creatine and 25 mg anadrol for weeks.
Mby it is working and there would be results over 2-3 months if I take bodypart measurements properly, but I am not visually impressed till now (didn’t take ‘before’ photo).
I am trying to lose weight but I have put some, and it is not my belly and love handles size (according to my pants…)
Your losing me here man.
Your trying to gain size/muscle bit your trying to lose weight?
Judging by your past posts in this log i think maybe you need to do a little more research on anabolics and what they do and how they should be used.
If you want help you need to lay out what your goals are, what you are taking. when you are taking it and what your training and diet look like. Also posting pics of your physique goes a long way in determining the best route for you.
You also state you feel like shit and are poor condition. Do you have any bloodwork to share?
Trying to tone up while losing subcatenous fat.
So, a cutting with minimum loss or even some improvement in muscle (using aids)
Bulking is a TOTAL SHIT and does not work for me and ppl like me, unless you want to gain muscle to fat with a ratio of 1:2, which makes it useless and the gains absolutely do not count for a thing.
I guess it works for people who got lean and then backing up for an iteration. When you are not lean, the ratio of gains suck.
No blood work, I will try to put up some photos and measurements, but I mostly would like to like what I see. So even the weight scale does not matter much… how came I put 4 kg and do not look more obese, nor more muscular?
This weight seems to be really volatile. Last check was -2kg and I am neither less muscular, nor less fatty.
Belly and love handles swell rapidly if I don’t restrict food, muscle just feel toned, no gains.
So I just want to get lean. I guess it is the best I could do with my genetics.
Now experimenting with the oxy pill, if it makes any difference in few months.
You can’t blame genetics.
You need to fix your diet and training. No offense but by the look of your pic neither one is in check.
Stop messing with drugs. They are such a small piece to the puzzle. If you don’t have diet/training in check the only thing the drugs are gonna do is mess up your bloodwork.
Start a training and set log so we can see what’s not working and help you fix it.
I am training extremely low volume.
Progressive overload has brought me only small injures, discomfort and discovering how much strength I could activate (but not really increase, since there is no muscle gain).
Every day or every other day, smth like: 1 set of pullups, 1 dips, 1 abb wheel roller, delt raises (more than 1 set), eventually something for neck and forearms.
Stopped doing biceps/ triceps isolation and dumbell shoulder press (on inclined bench).
Pullup/ dips feels much better, small weight delt raises as well.
Have to admit I skip squats now, which in home setting is light weight (~60 kilo), but I have to clean and overhead push the weight to set me up for a back squat.
Main training goal to become better at pullups.
Another one - to pump (pimp) up my shoulders
I got annoying brachioradialis injury for more than 3 months, now just do a set of 6 pullups (I can do 9-10). My best was 13-14 in a row ~10 years ago.
Dips with accent on triceps, I just do ~15. Previous max of mby 40 in a row (inclined).
I guess I should allready start doing weighted dips, but I HATE feeling any strain in joints and tendons 
‘Squat’ - the bottle neck is the overhead push, even if it is driven by legs (not clean). I guess the max I could achieve is 80 kg.
Once again, I don’t want any injuries.
A week ago I got a mild injury from… stupid shrugs with 60 kg, as I grabbed it without warmup. Somewhere in the lower back/ ilium, whatever…
And I do have some injury on the lower back, have had accidents from physical work and bad deadlift form (PR 160 kg).
So how much volume/ progression is too much?
I do not want ANY joint and tendons discomfort, I just want to train regularly for years to come.
Doin’ these sully 1 set pull up and dips is low load, I feel my arms (biceps triceps) itching and tickling every other day, no soreness and joint/ tendon strain, not pushing for higher numbers.
Again, no offense intended but from what I can see you are barely doing anything weekly so “how much volume/progression is too much” is prob nowhere close to where you are. You look raw and untrained.
IMO you need to find a bodyweight(or similar) training program that is geared toward your goals. You need to get diet in check as clearly it is not.
If your still taking anadrol or any or drugs for that matter, stop. The only thing you are doing is giving yourself fake strength that your joint/tendons are not ready for hence the injuries.
Your “training routine” looks like something my kid regularly does on the playground.
Find a proper gym where you can actually train.
You’re basically doing one set @ 50% of your max. This is a recipe for going nowhere. Google ‘stress-adaptation cycle’
Sorry to disappoint but you will get injured sometime in the future and there’s no way to avoid this. Just by sitting in a chair all day and doing 0 physical work things will start to ache eventually.
This means nothing.
This means no progress.
It’s funny how you’re worried about even the tiniest discomfort but aren’t worried about fucking up your hormonal balance. You might as well take 100mg of anadrol per day. That’ll give you more muscle than anything else you’re currently doing.
40 dips is not my current pr at all.
What I was talking about, isn’t it possible to progress with not eager approach, to avoid injuries and possibly motivational/ neural system burnout?
F ex. do some load until u do it effortlessly.
At some point u have to actually grow (incl. tendons, joint health) so u can do it effortlessly.
Then add +1 rep. In case of pullups, I don’t fell like 6 pullups is nothing (light as zipping pants) and I know at some point I will add +1.
I don’t mind reaching 20 pullups, old goal I didn’t reach.
I don’t mind doing 20 effortlessly as well
P.s. the injuries I reffered to were without anadrol, just eagerly trying to overload basic weight movements.
I don’t think I am feeling extra strength from 25 mg anadrol (mby I am wrong) and I currently do lower reps/ weights in all moves/ exercises than my old ‘achievements’.
Isn’t it a less eager approach the way for your progressive overload to catch up with your actual body adaptation (possibly growth) instead of just reaching your max technique and neural activation, then plateu and… an injury, if u try to continue the ‘overload’
Obviously you didn’t google “Stress/Recovery/Adaptation Cycle”, otherwise you wouldn’t have posted the above.
You’re nowhere near the point where you need to worry about this.
You’ll do 20 pullups effortlessly when you’re able to do 30-40 with maximum effort.
No. If you’re not putting enough stress on your body, it has nothing to adapt to. And doing anything effortlessly equals to zero or very little stress.
Can’t find it now, but I found an article for body types and training volume/ programs.
As ecto to mesomorph (at best) who also tends to get obese (just an extra quirk…), the suggestion was to keep low volume training as often as possible.
Not to expect huge gains as muscle is going to get lost visually in the length of the body.
Note for the oxy experiment - if a low dose helps protein synthesis over a long time and does not mess up blood work and liver health (a screening at some point would be nice), it might worth it.
Note for the volume - even with a low volume I feel my back tired and tend to worsen my posture, so I occasionally do some posture recovery exercises (kind of isometric).
I don’t feel well about smashing my back with huge volume once a week in some regular split 
Stress adaptation for muscle is one thing.
Stress adaptation for joints, tendons and light form of lordosis (I suspect this from a young age) is a different thing and they can’t go hand to hand, cause one must consider the weakest link.
F.ex. brachoradialis when I just ‘overload’ pullups, overall back recovery (posture problems), elbow problems when u overload triceps, shoulder problems for other exercises.
What’s the point of overloading if u get such problems and entirely stop working out, compared to keep doing it for months and years and proceed carefully?
And btw, how long can u overload, do u deadlift 300-400-500 kg if u have been lifting for 15 years ?? 
Stop making excuses/justifications for not using progressive overload and get to work.
Stop taking the drugs. Your in no condition to use anything but food.
I am going from 6 to 7 pullups soon, since it’s the hardest exercise for me and I am I suck at it.
I will focus overloading that one…
As for dips, I don’t care, it feels good if u concentrate on form. The weak link here is… my palms hurt and feel uncomfortable by the handlebars.
When I get over it and start overload weighted, there will be strain in the shoulder joints
(I know, cause I’ve been doing weighted before)
Food… I am eating mby twice as less (my stomach is shrunk) and still I do not lose fat (or it is almost unnoticeable).
So I don’t know what do u mean about food and how it goes with …‘overload’ and fat loss at the same time
