[quote]PapaBear wrote:
The offense probably comes from Mod Brian coming off as extremely pretentious.
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I completely disagree with you.
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
Schmazz wrote:
No one, not Biotest, a Mod, or otherwise passed judgement on those who couldn’t afford the product. If you can’t afford it (I know I can’t) then don’t worry about it.
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This sounds like passing judgment to me :shrug:
NDucedStrength98 wrote:
I cant believe its finally here. I cannot wait to get my hands on this stuff.
A lot of you guys complaining about the price of the product, is understandable. Its understandable because training is not your life. Its not on your minds 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Its not for those who like to go out and party over the weekend. Its not for those who choose to take an extra “off day” because they just did not feel like going. It is for those who choose to put 100% into their diets and training.
It is for those who are lifting as hard as they possibly can on Friday night while all their friends are out partying and living it up at the club. It is for those who wake up in the morning, and go straight to the scale or look in the mirror to notice physique differences, or to simply admire what they have so far accomplished. It is for those who wake up and walk straight to the kitchen, knowing they want to get in an anabolic state as fast as possible.
It is for those who wear their callouses like badges of honor, and wear shin scars from proper deadlifts as if they were air-force stripes. It is for those who treat every training session as if was their last, and who eat, sleep, and breathe muscle. If training is your one and only, and your everything, than Anaconda is for you. If your someone who wants just some “big biceps”, than its not. [/quote]
LOL, you let NDucedStrength98 get to you with his pep talk and banter?
The kid is 175lbs lol. Why on earth are you taking what this kid said seriously?
The reason I think a lot of people are complaining is that they want someone to tell them that taking just 1 scoop of Anaconda will help them just as much as the protocol, because then it would justify to them the cost of just that product.
Its the evolution of the Anaconda product into an overall protocol that caused the bitching, even before it was released, to happen. I think the protocol idea is genius, but if I could afford it I still am not advanced to that point where it would matter.
Truthfully I think a lot of individuals on here could get past their own plateaus they have in their training with just one scoop of Anaconda added to their workout nutrition. If you are skeptical then try it in parts. By some Anaconda, report back. Try some MAG-10 protein, report back, Try some Alpha-GPC, report back.
Try things before you criticize it, and if you can’t afford it and are still curious, just wait and see what others says.
We all may find other ways to utilize these products, and the best test subject to determine what works for you, is you!
[quote]Kanada wrote:
POST PICS GODDAMNIT cause if this thing is the shit, and theres photo proof, Biotest will probably have a lot of lifters buyin Biotest stuff for life
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Exactly…
POST PICS, and then we can be POSITIVELY sure that the lifters in the pics got their results by swallowing all that supps pre-workout…
I’ll follow Pro X’s advice:
I’ll stop bitchin’
(Maybe start knittin’…)
…Oh well…
Happy ThanksGinin’…
I just want that 2L Nalgene bottle. A durable 2L bottle is mad commodity in my opinion
hmm… expensive? maybe but over here i know lifters who spend way more than that a month on going out , partying and beer. perhaps it’s different over there, but at the end of the day you have to prioritise and make choices.
(i know this much, by the time this gets to the uk it’s gonna cost a hellava lot more!
Ordered one of each, and will begin next week… If I feel it like the claims say, I’ll grab the stack…
I’m amazed to say i was actually looking forward to this. But the cynical side of me says to wait a bit longer to see results from other posters, Not saying i don’t believe the writers, i’d just like to see the results from a posters point of view.
honestly if this protocol really does what it says on the bottle i’m definately going to buy it once my paycheck comes through
[quote]Invictica wrote:
I just want that 2L Nalgene bottle. A durable 2L bottle is mad commodity in my opinion[/quote]
^^This!!
But I think the majority of angry posters has mis-interpreted what Mod Brian meant in saying “super-serious”. There is a huge difference between someone who eats-sleeps-dreams about lifting, does all their research, pushes themselves, long term dedication, etc. and someone who is SUPER SERIOUS.
There is a point in any hobby or activity where someone crosses a line between dedication and obsession. Brian is saying if you are past the point of obsession, you can or will find a way to afford this product.
I’d be willing to bet those who fit this bill are already spending more than $1000/mo in supplements. If the Anaconda protocol is as good as it sounds, moving to a $975/mo stack does not sound that bad.
(and no, I’m not “super-serious” about training enough to use this product as intended. If I do end up buying this stack, I’ll be doing like the poster above mentioned, “feel-dosing” it to determine whether it is worth it to me or not.)
God, there is just no pleasing some people… “Anaconda is not out yet, booohooo!”, then a couple of months later “Anaconda is out, boohoo!”…
B.
Wow, three pages of Bitching and Moaning.
My mistake people.
I thought I was on Testosterone Nation.
I must have made a wrong turn and landed up in the Estrogen Empire.
I’ll just pick up my balls and leave.
[quote]NeelyDan wrote:
some of you guys would bitch no matter what, you know that?[/quote]
exactly that.
[quote]tolismann wrote:
Kanada wrote:
POST PICS GODDAMNIT cause if this thing is the shit, and theres photo proof, Biotest will probably have a lot of lifters buyin Biotest stuff for life
Exactly…
POST PICS, and then we can be POSITIVELY sure that the lifters in the pics got their results by swallowing all that supps pre-workout…
I’ll follow Pro X’s advice:
I’ll stop bitchin’
(Maybe start knittin’…)
…Oh well…
Happy ThanksGinin’…
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right.
zup with all the pimples?
[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
Blackaggar wrote:
compared to other supplements that are out there it isn’t even that bad considering some NO products alone are sometimes up to around 70$
that’s a retarded point you’re trying to make. no products that cost 70 bucks generally last for a month. this product will last for 10 days.
either way, i’m still excited about the release of it and i look foward to hearing good results from it.[/quote]
really now??
am just as giddy as ya!
I’m not sure what happened here, but think a bit before posting ppl, c’mon!
“The supplements are meant for serious lifters”
does not mean
“You are not a serious lifter if you don’t take these supplements”
Does anyone remember Tim mentioning how the production costs of the Anaconda were about $90? Obviously he realized that this was going to be an issue, and it at least looks like he’s trying to figure some way to make this at least a small bit more cost effective (probably dropped the other products to cost) as a package.
Still, the man’s not stupid, he realizes that this isn’t chump change to most of us, and everywhere you look, you’re being told that it’s not worth your investment if you’re not the type to make the most of it.
As PX routinely points out, so many of the posters on here, while ‘serious’ about their training, still have yet to reach that point where everything is clicking, when they move beyond the ‘intermeidtae’ stage of a ‘serious’ gym rat to the point where anyone looking at them knows that they’ve put their time in. I see tons of ‘serious’ teenagers in my gym.
They’re training every day, certainly looking like theyre busting their asses, and yet they never seem to make any substantial progress. The either don’t want to put in the effort of eating (when I tell them what and how often I eat, they give me the ‘I couldnt do that!’ expression), or they just don’t understand that it’s not just the time spent in the gym, but what you do with it.
As much as I’d love to see all of these kids make better progress, I wouldn’t suggest that they spend their money on the Anaconda protocol, simply because it’s not the magical solution to their sub-optimal diet and training. I know I typed this on one of the other threads that have sprung up, but the last thing Tim or Christian want, is a bunch of trainers spending their money, not getting the 20lbs of muscle in a month that they’re envisioning, and then bitching and whining that the product was just worthless marketing hype.
If you can’t afford it,… that’s fine, no one’s going to hold a gun to your head, or think you’re a bad person. It’s been a few months now since Nate Green’s write up and we’ve all heard the $90 figure batted around a lot, it’s nothing new. I promise you, Tim won’t send you a lump of coal this christmas if you don’t buy his new product.
S
[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
Blackaggar wrote:
compared to other supplements that are out there it isn’t even that bad considering some NO products alone are sometimes up to around 70$
that’s a retarded point you’re trying to make. no products that cost 70 bucks generally last for a month. this product will last for 10 days.
either way, i’m still excited about the release of it and i look foward to hearing good results from it.[/quote]
So what if it lasts a month, what would you rather have? what would do more for you a NO product that lasts a month or Anaconda? What i mean if im explainging right is that yes its more than other supplements but its also vastly more powerful than other ones too. Id rather have something good that lasts 10 days than some peice of shit that does nothing and lasts a month
[quote]Loudog75 wrote:
Wow, three pages of Bitching and Moaning.
My mistake people.
I thought I was on Testosterone Nation.
I must have made a wrong turn and landed up in the Estrogen Empire.
I’ll just pick up my balls and leave.[/quote]
lol… I was thinking the same thing
I’m curious, has anyone crunched the numbers with respect to cost of this protocol per session compared to CT’s older protocol (using Surge WF and Surge R) per session? Also, am I correct as a quick estimate that if there’s 25, 1 scoop servings of Anaconda per container and the protocol calls for 3 scoops per session, that tub alone will only last around 8 sessions.
$85 for 8 sessions…and that’s not taking into account MAG-10 or the other products. I’m sitting here trying to justify if I can even think about spending that kind of money on supplements, unless someone can post the numbers of his previous protocol as being comparable in price per session. Has anyone done this yet? If not, I may calculate it out when I have some free time.
Instead of whining and moaning, go get a job, then you can afford the protocol. This will serve two fold, both giving you something to stuff into your face hole that is overflowing with bitching, and to make gains and grow in and out of the gym.