Anaconda Protocol Common Sense?

[quote]chimera182 wrote:

Exactly, people should see what they can afford and are willing to spend rather than bitching about the price. Personally,when/if I buy Anaconda I plan to replace MAG-10 with pepto pro and leucine. It may not be as good as MAG-10 but it’s cheaper.[/quote]

Don’t forget the Citrulline Malate. Oh, and the liquid flavoring system. I’ve tried pepto pro… I don’t need to discuss the taste…

Just a short story. When Surge Workout Fuel came out, I was intrigued and excited by the product, but thought, “I can make this right here in my kitchen.” After buying everything needed, pulling out my ‘crackhead’ scale that measures to the 1/10th of a gram, and doing multiple experiments to try and get it right, I failed miserably.

1.) It tasted like crap, no matter how hard I tried to make it better with various sweetening agents. Surge Workout Fuel tastes great.
2.) Ultimately, I was only guessing. I have no idea how much Palatinose (for example), is in the product.
3.) In the end, I really didn’t end up saving any money. AND, based upon the new price of Surge Workout Fuel, my version would have been much more expensive.

So lesson learned. I trust Biotest and am pleased with their products and integrity. And I will never attempt to replicate their products again, even if I think I can save a few dollars.

[quote]JN7844 wrote:
chimera182 wrote:

Exactly, people should see what they can afford and are willing to spend rather than bitching about the price. Personally,when/if I buy Anaconda I plan to replace MAG-10 with pepto pro and leucine. It may not be as good as MAG-10 but it’s cheaper.

Don’t forget the Citrulline Malate. Oh, and the liquid flavoring system. I’ve tried pepto pro… I don’t need to discuss the taste…

Just a short story. When Surge Workout Fuel came out, I was intrigued and excited by the product, but thought, “I can make this right here in my kitchen.” After buying everything needed, pulling out my ‘crackhead’ scale that measures to the 1/10th of a gram, and doing multiple experiments to try and get it right, I failed miserably.

1.) It tasted like crap, no matter how hard I tried to make it better with various sweetening agents. Surge Workout Fuel tastes great.
2.) Ultimately, I was only guessing. I have no idea how much Palatinose (for example), is in the product.
3.) In the end, I really didn’t end up saving any money. AND, based upon the new price of Surge Workout Fuel, my version would have been much more expensive.

So lesson learned. I trust Biotest and am pleased with their products and integrity. And I will never attempt to replicate their products again, even if I think I can save a few dollars.[/quote]

Haha, I made the same mistake of trying to replicate Surge Workout Fuel. Worst. Mistake. Ever. Tasted horrible and ended up costing more because Biotest dropped prices the next day.

[quote]JN7844 wrote:
chimera182 wrote:

Exactly, people should see what they can afford and are willing to spend rather than bitching about the price. Personally,when/if I buy Anaconda I plan to replace MAG-10 with pepto pro and leucine. It may not be as good as MAG-10 but it’s cheaper.

Don’t forget the Citrulline Malate. Oh, and the liquid flavoring system. I’ve tried pepto pro… I don’t need to discuss the taste…

Just a short story. When Surge Workout Fuel came out, I was intrigued and excited by the product, but thought, “I can make this right here in my kitchen.” After buying everything needed, pulling out my ‘crackhead’ scale that measures to the 1/10th of a gram, and doing multiple experiments to try and get it right, I failed miserably.

1.) It tasted like crap, no matter how hard I tried to make it better with various sweetening agents. Surge Workout Fuel tastes great.
2.) Ultimately, I was only guessing. I have no idea how much Palatinose (for example), is in the product.
3.) In the end, I really didn’t end up saving any money. AND, based upon the new price of Surge Workout Fuel, my version would have been much more expensive.

So lesson learned. I trust Biotest and am pleased with their products and integrity. And I will never attempt to replicate their products again, even if I think I can save a few dollars.[/quote]

Agreed. I actually tied this, too. The savings were hardly worth mentioning, and the effort is not worth admitting.

So instead, you get a reputable supp company to measure, premix, and flavor PERFECTLY and you pay a few cents more.

Why are people starting threads like this if you wanna buy it, buy it. If you don’t want it don’t buy it. Nobody cares.

[quote]LilDaDDyDreW wrote:

Does its insulin spike from the protein compare to an insulin spike from a carb drink? [/quote]

I didn’t know protein spiked insulin. Are you a fucking retard? I’m pretty sure the insulin spike comes from the FINiBARs.

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
brauny96 wrote:
The Mighty Stu wrote:
LilDaDDyDreW wrote:Ill be the other reason they think your a good fit to use these products, is that you and X and the others are very advanced with your training and you know and can feel the perfect rep. They wouldn’t give it to most of us because we are not advanced like you all are in our training

It took me and two of my trainers to teach Stu and ACTrain 3 DAYS to teach them to lift the way I believe in.

I put them on my short list because they are know for not being blind fans and actually being helpful to others.[/quote]

I still think the real market for this is selling it to trainers who can sell “boot camps” (lots do) where they can generate much better than the usual results.

[quote]Therizza wrote:
LilDaDDyDreW wrote:

Does its insulin spike from the protein compare to an insulin spike from a carb drink?

I didn’t know protein spiked insulin. Are you a fucking retard? I’m pretty sure the insulin spike comes from the FINiBARs.
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Actually certain protein (like ANACONDA) does spike insulin, the FINiBARs are slower digesting carbs

[quote]Therizza wrote:
LilDaDDyDreW wrote:

Does its insulin spike from the protein compare to an insulin spike from a carb drink?

I didn’t know protein spiked insulin. Are you a fucking retard? I’m pretty sure the insulin spike comes from the FINiBARs.
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Protein can spike insulin. CHY and the BCAAs are known to be insuligenic.

[quote]Therizza wrote:
LilDaDDyDreW wrote:

Does its insulin spike from the protein compare to an insulin spike from a carb drink?

I didn’t know protein spiked insulin. Are you a fucking retard? I’m pretty sure the insulin spike comes from the FINiBARs.
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Almost everything has an effect on insulin and can spike it. Rather it being biphasic or not.

Im pretty sure the hyperinsulin spike is from the FINiBARs, as per CTs thread…

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
LilDaDDyDreW wrote:

Can we get some reviews instead of price bashing… Anyone whose tried it how does it make you feel. Any noticeable effects? Does its insulin spike from the protein compare to an insulin spike from a carb drink? I’m curious as hell about everything and have been reading about this stuff for much to long this weekend.

I’ve pretty much thought you were a doucher sense your veiled brag of an ab thread in the bodybuilding forum a few months ago…

My opinion hasn’t changed yet…

And to point out something: You already mentioned you don’t find anyone that has tried it so far creditable. So HOW THE FUCK CAN ANYONE GIVE YOU A REVIEW?

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Bingo. Why state you don’t trust anyone who has tried it and THEN ask for experiences from those people?

Are some of you schizophrenic?

I can understand some people’s skepticism regarding the opinions of the “chosen” few who received these products free from Biotest. However, the product was just released and those are the only opinions and reviews you’re gonna get right now. If that doesn’t satisfy you, check back in a month and I’m sure there will be many reviews from members who actually purchased the product. I’m interested in hearing the reviews that come in the next month.

[quote]Therizza wrote:
LilDaDDyDreW wrote:

Does its insulin spike from the protein compare to an insulin spike from a carb drink?

I didn’t know protein spiked insulin. Are you a fucking retard? I’m pretty sure the insulin spike comes from the FINiBARs.
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Why the hostility? MAG-10 is insulinogenic, stop jacking off to Conan and start reading…

and Counting Beans that thread about ab development was serious. I’m sorry if me showing a picture about the problem (like everyone asks for with those type of development questions) offended you. I can understand why.

ANACONDA/MAG-10 seems like it would go hard when trying to get into contest shape as well… As it still gives you the ability to have an intense workout minus a shitload of calories…

I still don’t get why you shouldn’t have a pulse after you workout as well… That being said,
Auto-regulation workouts have been the main topic of training recently. But as far as pre/post workout nutrition goes I dont see why Biotest is seemingly trying to carve it in stone.

[quote]LilDaDDyDreW wrote:
Therizza wrote:
LilDaDDyDreW wrote:

Does its insulin spike from the protein compare to an insulin spike from a carb drink?

I didn’t know protein spiked insulin. Are you a fucking retard? I’m pretty sure the insulin spike comes from the FINiBARs.

Why the hostility? MAG-10 is insulinogenic, stop jacking off to Conan and start reading…

and Counting Beans that thread about ab development was serious. I’m sorry if me showing a picture about the problem (like everyone asks for with those type of development questions) offended you. I can understand why.

ANACONDA/MAG-10 seems like it would go hard when trying to get into contest shape as well… As it still gives you the ability to have an intense workout minus a shitload of calories…

I still don’t get why you shouldn’t have a pulse after you workout as well… That being said,
Auto-regulation workouts have been the main topic of training recently. But as far as pre/post workout nutrition goes I dont see why Biotest is seemingly trying to carve it in stone.[/quote]

I was having a bad day, and your post rubbed me the wrong way. Your writing style just hurts to read. Nothing personal.

[quote]LilDaDDyDreW wrote:

and Counting Beans that thread about ab development was serious. I’m sorry if me showing a picture about the problem (like everyone asks for with those type of development questions) offended you. I can understand why.

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LOL. That thread was your way of saying “Hey guys look at me, I did so well.”

And you have made progress, and I honestly congratulate you on it.

But that doesn’t mean your not a numbnuts. And sorry to disappoint but you don’t offend me in the slightest. I mean, I know you think you are the shit, but you and I are heading in opposite directions man.

Best of luck.

Mighty Stu, Professor X, AC… How long do you guys wait before eating a regular meal after working out now using the protocol… I’m thinking that the two liters should keep you feeling full but it’s still not alot of total calories… I’m assuming answers will vary because of different bodytypes/goals… By the way I plan on giving this a shot. -lol I like the idea of one big beast ass bottle instead of 3 different shakes, funny how that is a convincing factor for me.

[quote]LilDaDDyDreW wrote:
No the fact that you guys live on these boards and have such an established relationship with T-Nation and the company makes you less reliable, there is nothing retarded about that…[/quote]

1: The fact that they “…live on these boards and have such an established relationship…” can enhance their ‘reliability’ or diminish it, depending on their behavior – and we’ve had ample opportunity to gauge this for ourselves.

2: The folks picked have earned a reputation for not being fanbois, and for being folks who will say what they think regardless of what they feel Biotest wants them to say.

That your statement shows ignorance regarding #1 does make it ‘retarded’. That you have not figured out #2 makes it doubly so.

It’s no secret that the most influential people on the board were picked to be swayed into the protocol. It’s no secret that the most influential people on the board are just that because they post as often as they do. Being so involved with the boards and the company does make their reviews biased. It is no secret… That being said Stu’s review was solid and if anyone of them could answer my question posted above this jackass’s comment that would be cool.

[quote]LilDaDDyDreW wrote:
Mighty Stu, Professor X, AC… How long do you guys wait before eating a regular meal after working out now using the protocol… I’m thinking that the two liters should keep you feeling full but it’s still not alot of total calories… I’m assuming answers will vary because of different bodytypes/goals… By the way I plan on giving this a shot. -lol I like the idea of one big beast ass bottle instead of 3 different shakes, funny how that is a convincing factor for me.[/quote]

See, you just called me a sell out and a liar…yet are still asking for shit.

You can kiss my black anaconda.