Anaconda and Extras

Pharma
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Ya know I haven’t been on a bulking cycle in along time and am pretty dog gone happy with my stats/physical performance. However I’ve been thinking of saving up and going all out I mean all out! Well as much as money and school/work allows. Here’s my idea and please feel free to add/take out…
Anaconda protocol 1x/day, 3on/1off weights, 3x/wk 30min cardio, streching/core ed. Between warm-up, flexability, weights, post w/o cardio/streching all I will have time for is once per day.
I would like to take a month before and do noting but circuits, cardio, 2,500 kcal/day, body/colon cleanse UBER-clean living and make sure my BF% is really low and then SMACK my SYSTEM with a sledge hammer and go into the training protocol.

X-TRAS
Deca 600mg/wk, 12wks
Test E or Cyp 1000mg/wk 12wks
D-Bol 350mg/wk 4wks on, 4 off, last 4 on
Test Susp. 100mg/ED 1st 10 day
Slin-Humalog

Ancillaries
Arimidex
Nolva/Clomid
HCG
Brocriptimine(don’t like it but considering trying it again)
Liver Support (probably Liv-52 or something)

Supps
Anaconda Protocol 3 mos (whew thats more than the gear)
Superfood
Multi
CytoGain(Cytosport) Post W/O with Slin
Metabolic Drive(with carbs damnit)

Nutrition
LOTS OF FOOD.

After coming off of everything, beginning to re-coup my wallet, and my sanity just stop for a week and do NOTHING. But, I digress, maybe train 2-3 times that week with a light circuit and some cardio but otherwise NADA. Then during recovery obviously keeping the Nolva & HCG going, throw in some HOT-ROX, Carboin-19, and maybe Alpha Male to help with recovery.

Cut back of training Vol., move up cardio to 5 days/wk 30min and see where I come out 2 mos. after ending. Interesting experiment huh!?!?
Remember guys I’ve always trained for athletic performance, not bodybuilding so this should be quite the task. Besides I gotta save for a few months cause Christmas is coming…OUCH! One last thing—I was thinking of throwing a low dose T3(cynomel) 25-50mcg to increase metabolic protein syn. and keep of a few x-tra unwanted pounds, wha do ya think? J-23 out.

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where do you work? are they hiring?

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:0 sick cycle, imo idk u need the Alpha Male, a serm might me just enough, so u save some money

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Well, for one, what are your current stats? This seems like overkill unless you’re really at your genetic potential.

Also, if you go from eating 2500 calories to “LOTS OF FOOD” (assuming you mean 4000+ calories) you’ll probably gain more fat than you’d like. I’m not saying don’t eat that much food, I’m saying don’t make such a big jump so fast. I would personally just keep calories high.

That said, I personally would throw in BBB’s GH protocol and lose the slin. Also, skip the suspension and just frontload the test E. Frontload the deca, as well. You should cut the deca at week 11, one week before you cut your test (assuming you’re using enanthate.)

HCG is not used for PCT, but rather on cycle. Use 40/40/20/20 nolva protocol starting two weeks after your last test E shot.

During PCT, I don’t think it would be such a good idea to up your cardio that much. I would actually keep cardio the same (or decrease it) and decrease lifting volume but keep the intensity.

Also, if you’re going to use HRX, Carbolin 19, or Alpha Male, PICK ONE. They shouldn’t be used together as they all have Carbolin 19 in them.

I’m sure you’ll get better advice from others, but that’s just my opinion.

Also, look into cortes’ thread “the HGH experiment.” He just ran a 6 month cycle of ~2g AAS per week with BBB’s HGH protocol, and well, look at his avatar. haha

Also, I think BBB created a thread a while back creating a no holds barred cycle for one of his clients. I forget the name of the thread, but I’m sure someone will remember it.

What are your goals for this cycle? If I had a guess, given your mention of all that cardio, HRX, and T3, it would be to lean out, but then again you mention “LOTS OF FOOD” so it could be to gain size. Just so you know, it’s better to choose one goal, reach it, maintain for 6-8 weeks, then choose what you want to do next.

Also, you mentioned school. If you’re in college, I think this ‘all out’ deal is overkill, and I would wait until A, you’re older, and B, you don’t have to stress about school or anything. Recovery plays a huge role in something like this.

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Am I the only one who thinks that its a retarded amount of gear? Almost 3g/week for the first 2 weeks, then ~2g/week? Jeepers creepers. I agree with the first response… I wish I could afford that much gear…

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Slin PWO huh?? Rationale behind that?

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Thx rrjc and everyone so far,
Just to clairify, HOT-ROX- I was gonna use just before workouts for an energy boost and thats it. I could get away with just caffiene but I know it has Carbolin 19 in it so I figured it couldn’t hurt.
I’m not too sure about the Carbolin 19 or Alpha Male post cycle because I haven’t used them before so I figured I would get input.

Ummm next, Slin- is cheap and VERY anabolic, HGH isn’t cheap (or last time I checked anyways it wasn’t) and pretty hard to find (for me atleast).
HGC- during cycle I know, but what I meant was use until 2wks after my last shot(sorry for the confusion). I really need to start re-reading these before I post, my bad.
T-3- was more of an after thought. I read somewhere a long time ago (I believe it was here on a board)that some people were using it (very low dose 12.5,-25 mcg) to actually increase gains. Somebody help me one this one if ya remember.
Nolva-Clomid- Always have used clomid never Nolva, but everyone seems to be such a fan I figured I might give it a try IDK yet though still debating. I’ve always used clomid 100mg 1st 5 days post and then 50mg/day 40 days afterward.
Frontloading-I’ve frontloaded before and don’t have a problem doing it with the test, but still a lil sketch on the deca frontload. Never tried supension, just thought it would be a good idea with the D-bol for a nice kick in the ass.

School- Yea, well lets just say I’m changing careers. I’m 30 and have been training etc for a while, but have never really wanted to get past 195 and lean. I’ve been up to 220 @ 5’11" (on cycle), but didn’t like the way I looked or felt. I dropped 30 lbs and lets just say the ladies appreciated it(as did my knees when running).

Cardio-Maybe not that much directly PC but 3-4 wks into recovery depending on how much fat I put on. I’m gonna eat REALLY clean, which is hard to do when bulking but I’m gonna try.
WormWood- I’m a trainer and do pretty well with it. I just want something different.

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If you’re looking for a good pre-workout energy boost, Spike Shooters are way better than HRX.

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Assuming that you’re a decent athlete and well-conditioned, I think that using ~2g of gear / wk + slin is overkill given your stats (5’11", 195, “lean”) and goals. There’s no reason why you can’t reach your targets with a more moderate regime.

Granted it’s always entertaining to read these elaborate cycles and whatnot, and I appreciate occasional experimentation outside of the box, but I’d still recommend cutting back on the amount of gear. I wouldn’t bother with quite so many “supps” either. The extras aren’t going to benefit your health or wallet.

The Carbolin 19 sounds like a good bridging idea, though, at least in theory.

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[quote]whotookmyname wrote:
The Carbolin 19 sounds like a good bridging idea, though, at least in theory.[/quote]

Yeah. I would’ve liked to used Carbolin 19 during my PCT, but didn’t have the money at the time.

IIRC J-J/brook said it was one of his favorite non-steroid supplements used at 80-100mg/day.

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Some people just have money to burn…

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Bonez-there are lots of articles on insulin. PWO its more anti-catabolic than anything, but its also increases glycogen synthesis, and is great at helping to shuttle nutrients to the muscles. I think Berardi and Strasser have some stuff on this.
RRJC- again, I should have been more specific, but I wasn’t sure what kind of responses I would get.
Nutrition- I was planning on increasing to 3,500 first two weeks and then by 500 every two weeks after or until I can’t eat anymore.(or grocery bill is too crazy)
Everyone- Supps, most are just food.
Ancillaries- A must.

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So you plan to inject insulin on top of the natural insulin spike that you get?

I think you should read more about this.

I am aware that insulin is the most anabolic hormone available, thanks.

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[quote]James23 wrote:
RRJC- again, I should have been more specific, but I wasn’t sure what kind of responses I would get.
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I really have no idea what this is in regards to, but you being less specific in your posts isn’t going to help get better responses.

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RRJC I was talking about the response to LOTS OF FOOD. I do have a more intricate plane besides lots of food, but I more so wanted to know if the Anaconda idea has crossed anyone elses mind yet?(which I’m sure it has)
I appreciate all the responses and really would like to hear if anybody is thinking about bulking with the Anaconda protocol? Also, how ANACONDA/MAG-10 would work into a cutting stack, if at all? Ideas/comments on what one would do?

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[quote]James23 wrote:
I appreciate all the responses and really would like to hear if anybody is thinking about bulking with the Anaconda protocol? Also, how ANACONDA/MAG-10 would work into a cutting stack, if at all? Ideas/comments on what one would do? [/quote]

I think these questions would be better answered by CT or someone else who’s used it. AFAIK, no one’s used it with AAS yet.

That said, I’m sure it’d be a sweet protocol to add to almost any AAS cycle.

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[quote]James23 wrote:
RRJC I was talking about the response to LOTS OF FOOD. I do have a more intricate plane besides lots of food, but I more so wanted to know if the Anaconda idea has crossed anyone elses mind yet?(which I’m sure it has)
I appreciate all the responses and really would like to hear if anybody is thinking about bulking with the Anaconda protocol? Also, how ANACONDA/MAG-10 would work into a cutting stack, if at all? Ideas/comments on what one would do? [/quote]

honestly since you are on the chemical path anyway i would take the $350 per month that you will spend on the anaconda protocol and simply use ALOT more GH…i can’t imagine even the most ardent supporters of the protocol telling you that it will be more effective than the amount of GH you could buy for the same money.