Spock,
I think you are putting the penis on a pedestal prematurely, make him earn the praise.
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
WHY am I such a big baby when it comes to boys!!!
(?)
I care about them so much when they don’t care about me or when they aren’t even good people. OR compatible with me AT ALL !!
ANd I miss them when they don’t miss me !!
ANd I worry about their well being when they don’t even like me!!!
I have the MOST self control in the world when it comes to working out for 2.5hours a day and never eating ANY junk food, but when it comes to boys I have ZIp ZERO zlitch.
Weakling!!!
WEAKLING Puny BABY GIRL
K bye
[/quote]
Do you live with your father, or close by? Does he have good judgement?
Maybe bring your next prospective boyfriend/whatever over to a casual meal at your father’s house before going on more than a few dates?
Not sure if that’s really workable, but I thought I would throw it out there in case it might help.
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
Wet warm holes are a dime a dozend.
If you define yourself by that, every woman has at least three*…
Not an USP.
- If she has a colostomy bag, maybe more![/quote]
Once you bag a chick with a bag, you never go back![/quote]
Pls no…
I have a doctor friend who told me a story once of a prostitute who came in for STD treatment… It was in her colostomy hole…[/quote]
That’s just flat gross. Just because a hole exists, that doesn’t automatically make it a good place to put your dick. I seriously don’t get some people. I cannot relate.[/quote]
She prbably charged him a lot extra to do it. And the really really weird part is he thought it was worth it
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
And he said, ya, you have a really nice vagina and you give oral.
But in my head I was thinking, um, well I meant more like that I am loyal and honest, caring and considerate, fun to be around etc etc…
[/quote]
Well, yes.
Wet warm holes are a dime a dozend.
If you define yourself by that, every woman has at least three*…
Not an USP.
- If she has a colostomy bag, maybe more![/quote]
I wouldn’t consider a butthole a ‘warm wet hole’. I don’t get the whole butthole thing anyway. It’s a dirty place, it’s not made to have the shit pounded back into it, it cannot be comfortable in anyway, it’s an ugly hole, guys have them too, and based on what comes out of them there is no way in hell I would want to put any part of my body into one. It’s a one way street. A waste dump. It’s like putting your dick in to a sewer. Why the hell anybody would want to do that is beyond me.[/quote]
To make her submit utterly.
At least for a while.
[/quote]
I may be insecure, but I am not that insecure. I don’t need submission. It’s scary how you know this.
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
WHY am I such a big baby when it comes to boys!!!
(?)
I care about them so much when they don’t care about me or when they aren’t even good people. OR compatible with me AT ALL !!
ANd I miss them when they don’t miss me !!
ANd I worry about their well being when they don’t even like me!!!
I have the MOST self control in the world when it comes to working out for 2.5hours a day and never eating ANY junk food, but when it comes to boys I have ZIp ZERO zlitch.
Weakling!!!
WEAKLING Puny BABY GIRL
K bye[/quote]
You sound depressed, stop it. You have a lot to be thankful for.
Dudes aren’t that big a deal. Most are jerks, some are not. Women are attracted to jerks for some odd reason. Don’t force anything, let it happen and it will. Just chill, do things you like. Relationships are frustrating enjoy not having one while you can.
The day will come when you will hit the big one, then your stuck for the rest of you life. There’s way more to life than sex and relationships. Enjoy that part.
[/quote]
Oh no, I am not depressed at all. Things are really great right now and I am looking forward to a lot…
I just don’t understand why I always seem to care more about things than everyone else…
[/quote]
You don’t. This is like the most common problem on earth for young people. They all want to be wow’d, they want that special one, the want to be swept off their feet and they cannot understand why their the only ones it never happens to.
And you spoke depressed. But you aren’t alone by any stretch. Most people your age feel like their the only one’s who get screwed over and always end up with an asshole, who seemed right at the time and then are alone again.
The thing is, most young people feel this way.
You’ll get that special one, don’t worry. And when you do, they tend to not go anywhere, ever. They keep being there whether you like it or not. You soon find out, they aren’t that special after all. They are gross and flawed like everybody else and that which endured you, will annoy the living shit out of you. This story repeats millions of times.
You think you want ‘the one’ now and be done. You don’t. Because once they are there, you’re stuck. You want to go out, do what you always did before, but now you can’t. This whole compromise thing has got you tied down. It’s the oldest story in the book next to prostitution.
[quote]Facepalm_Death wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
Wet warm holes are a dime a dozend.
If you define yourself by that, every woman has at least three*…
Not an USP.
- If she has a colostomy bag, maybe more![/quote]
Once you bag a chick with a bag, you never go back![/quote]
Pls no…
I have a doctor friend who told me a story once of a prostitute who came in for STD treatment… It was in her colostomy hole…[/quote]
That’s just flat gross. Just because a hole exists, that doesn’t automatically make it a good place to put your dick. I seriously don’t get some people. I cannot relate.[/quote]
She prbably charged him a lot extra to do it. And the really really weird part is he thought it was worth it
[/quote]
Geez, I am sure your right, but damn. I am sure somebody has tried a trach-hole too.
Ahhh, sexual deviants, they add so much flavor to our society. I am boring. I like my pussy strait up.
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
To make her submit utterly.
At least for a while.
[/quote]
I may be insecure, but I am not that insecure. I don’t need submission. It’s scary how you know this. [/quote]
I’d probably estimate that 1/4 females really, really get off on it. 1/2 that hate it, and 1/4 who tolerate it.*
I did not care for it, for the reasons Pat stated – it’s nasty and an exit, except for the ones who really got off on it. The ones who are into it, typically pre-clean appropriately. From my perspective, it was unusually tight-feeling and the female glutes are very sexy, so it was fine. Not worth the hassle and the clean up, however.
I never figured out the allure to women. The ones who requested it gushed profusely from the front side and claimed it was an intense orgasm — but (in hindsight – not pun intended), they were universally the ones who had serious problems with men in the first place.
So, I posit Orion is correct, that it has to do with domination.
Some women really like to be dominated. Most do, to some degree, I think.
But typically not to that extent.
- Based off a fairly large personal sample.
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
And he said, ya, you have a really nice vagina and you give oral.
But in my head I was thinking, um, well I meant more like that I am loyal and honest, caring and considerate, fun to be around etc etc…
[/quote]
Well, yes.
Wet warm holes are a dime a dozend.
If you define yourself by that, every woman has at least three*…
Not an USP.
- If she has a colostomy bag, maybe more![/quote]
I wouldn’t consider a butthole a ‘warm wet hole’. I don’t get the whole butthole thing anyway. It’s a dirty place, it’s not made to have the shit pounded back into it, it cannot be comfortable in anyway, it’s an ugly hole, guys have them too, and based on what comes out of them there is no way in hell I would want to put any part of my body into one. It’s a one way street. A waste dump. It’s like putting your dick in to a sewer. Why the hell anybody would want to do that is beyond me.[/quote]
To make her submit utterly.
At least for a while.
[/quote]
I may be insecure, but I am not that insecure. I don’t need submission. It’s scary how you know this. [/quote]
It has nothing to do with you.
It has something to do with the inherent need of women to be dominated.
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
So, I posit Orion is correct, that it has to do with domination.
Some women really like to be dominated. Most do, to some degree, I think.
But typically not to that extent.
- Based off a fairly large personal sample.[/quote]
That’s interesting; I was kinda wondering what your thoughts were on that. In my, significantly more humble experience, honestly every single girl I’ve ever been with has been pretty into getting dominated. Like pretty fucking hard. It just led me to believe that all women were either secretly or overtly into BDSM lol. “I want you to use me” “I want it to hurt” “I want you to make me your bitch.” yadda yadda yadda
Maybe I just attract freaks or something lol.
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
So, I posit Orion is correct, that it has to do with domination.
Some women really like to be dominated. Most do, to some degree, I think.
But typically not to that extent.
- Based off a fairly large personal sample.[/quote]
It lies in the nature of domination that the amount of domination is not up to them.
Furthermore, exactly those that do not enjoy the act in and of itself give themselves over completely if they do it for you.
Also, to dissolve the cognitive dissonance that they did something for you they do for no other man they naturally conclude that you are the shit, or why else would they have done it?
I just think if people would stop being so damn terrified of their hearts getting broken there would be a lot more love in this world!!!
Nobody wants to care because then something bad could happen and then they would feel emotional pain.
Maybe I am not a baby because I am okay with that and I let myself care.
EH
YA
YA!!!
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
I just think if people would stop being so damn terrified of their hearts getting broken there would be a lot more love in this world!!!
Nobody wants to care because then something bad could happen and then they would feel emotional pain.
Maybe I am not a baby because I am okay with that and I let myself care.
EH
YA
YA!!![/quote]
There are many reasons why people are afraid of love. The fact is that people become protective of their hearts because they got burned by not being protective.
If people were honest, nicer, less selfish, etc. There would be a whole lot more love in the world…That’s not the world we live in.
People are selfish and mean. People chase their own pleasures with little regard to the consequence it may have on others.
People are afraid of love for damn good reasons of their own.
Like I said, ‘the one’ will show up one day. Don’t be in a hurry, because once you are stuck, your life is no longer your own. You can no longer just do what you want, you always have to consider somebody else.
Travel, do stuff, go sky diving, learn to shoot a gun, go camping, try coke, or what ever it is you like to do. Now is the time to do it. Sooner than you think, you’ll be getting married, having kids, going to this obligation and that, taking care of you in-laws, etc. In other words, your life will be dominated by responsibility, constantly.
Don’t be so hung up on love and relationships. They are a pain in the ass most of the time, even when they are good. And if they are bad, they are torture.
You’re one is out there. Go accumulate some stories you can tell him later when you meet. You don’t want your young life to the the culmination of waiting on love. It’s a waste of time.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
And he said, ya, you have a really nice vagina and you give oral.
But in my head I was thinking, um, well I meant more like that I am loyal and honest, caring and considerate, fun to be around etc etc…
[/quote]
Well, yes.
Wet warm holes are a dime a dozend.
If you define yourself by that, every woman has at least three*…
Not an USP.
- If she has a colostomy bag, maybe more![/quote]
I wouldn’t consider a butthole a ‘warm wet hole’. I don’t get the whole butthole thing anyway. It’s a dirty place, it’s not made to have the shit pounded back into it, it cannot be comfortable in anyway, it’s an ugly hole, guys have them too, and based on what comes out of them there is no way in hell I would want to put any part of my body into one. It’s a one way street. A waste dump. It’s like putting your dick in to a sewer. Why the hell anybody would want to do that is beyond me.[/quote]
To make her submit utterly.
At least for a while.
[/quote]
I may be insecure, but I am not that insecure. I don’t need submission. It’s scary how you know this. [/quote]
It has nothing to do with you.
It has something to do with the inherent need of women to be dominated.[/quote]
Well, if I want to dominate a woman, I will have her kneel on all fours and use them as a footstool while I watch a football game. That’s way better then trying to scrub fecal matter off my dick.
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
To make her submit utterly.
At least for a while.
[/quote]
I may be insecure, but I am not that insecure. I don’t need submission. It’s scary how you know this. [/quote]
I’d probably estimate that 1/4 females really, really get off on it. 1/2 that hate it, and 1/4 who tolerate it.*
- Based off a fairly large personal sample.[/quote]
I’m sure my sample is nowhere near as large as yours, and like you and Pat I’m not a fan, but the two women whom initiated this with me, experienced orgasms of an intensity I didn’t think possible. It was like they were having an outer body experience.
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
WHY am I such a big baby when it comes to boys!!!
(?)
I care about them so much when they don’t care about me or when they aren’t even good people. OR compatible with me AT ALL !!
ANd I miss them when they don’t miss me !!
ANd I worry about their well being when they don’t even like me!!!
I have the MOST self control in the world when it comes to working out for 2.5hours a day and never eating ANY junk food, but when it comes to boys I have ZIp ZERO zlitch.
Weakling!!!
WEAKLING Puny BABY GIRL
K bye[/quote]
You sound depressed, stop it. You have a lot to be thankful for.
Dudes aren’t that big a deal. Most are jerks, some are not. Women are attracted to jerks for some odd reason. Don’t force anything, let it happen and it will. Just chill, do things you like. Relationships are frustrating enjoy not having one while you can.
The day will come when you will hit the big one, then your stuck for the rest of you life. There’s way more to life than sex and relationships. Enjoy that part.
[/quote]
Oh no, I am not depressed at all. Things are really great right now and I am looking forward to a lot…
I just don’t understand why I always seem to care more about things than everyone else…
[/quote]
You’ll get that special one, don’t worry. And when you do, they tend to not go anywhere, ever. They keep being there whether you like it or not. You soon find out, they aren’t that special after all. They are gross and flawed like everybody else and that which endured you, will annoy the living shit out of you. This story repeats millions of times.
You think you want ‘the one’ now and be done. You don’t. Because once they are there, you’re stuck. You want to go out, do what you always did before, but now you can’t. This whole compromise thing has got you tied down. It’s the oldest story in the book next to prostitution. [/quote]
This is one of the most depressing things I’ve ever read. : (
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
WHY am I such a big baby when it comes to boys!!!
(?)
I care about them so much when they don’t care about me or when they aren’t even good people. OR compatible with me AT ALL !!
ANd I miss them when they don’t miss me !!
ANd I worry about their well being when they don’t even like me!!!
I have the MOST self control in the world when it comes to working out for 2.5hours a day and never eating ANY junk food, but when it comes to boys I have ZIp ZERO zlitch.
Weakling!!!
WEAKLING Puny BABY GIRL
K bye[/quote]
You sound depressed, stop it. You have a lot to be thankful for.
Dudes aren’t that big a deal. Most are jerks, some are not. Women are attracted to jerks for some odd reason. Don’t force anything, let it happen and it will. Just chill, do things you like. Relationships are frustrating enjoy not having one while you can.
The day will come when you will hit the big one, then your stuck for the rest of you life. There’s way more to life than sex and relationships. Enjoy that part.
[/quote]
Oh no, I am not depressed at all. Things are really great right now and I am looking forward to a lot…
I just don’t understand why I always seem to care more about things than everyone else…
[/quote]
You’ll get that special one, don’t worry. And when you do, they tend to not go anywhere, ever. They keep being there whether you like it or not. You soon find out, they aren’t that special after all. They are gross and flawed like everybody else and that which endured you, will annoy the living shit out of you. This story repeats millions of times.
You think you want ‘the one’ now and be done. You don’t. Because once they are there, you’re stuck. You want to go out, do what you always did before, but now you can’t. This whole compromise thing has got you tied down. It’s the oldest story in the book next to prostitution. [/quote]
This is one of the most depressing things I’ve ever read. : ([/quote]
X’s 10000!!!
I have decided I am going to keep being hopeful/naive and continue my quest for love even if it results in 10000000 more heart breaks and 1 true love it will be worth it.
No regrets!! Stay positive !!
The power of positive thinking is the strongest, most amazing force on the planet.
Real love and good/caring people are out there! Millions of them! The planet is swarming with them. Time to suit up in my beekeepers uniform and search for honey !!!
Swarm my pretties, swarm !!
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
And he said, ya, you have a really nice vagina and you give oral.
But in my head I was thinking, um, well I meant more like that I am loyal and honest, caring and considerate, fun to be around etc etc…
[/quote]
Well, yes.
Wet warm holes are a dime a dozend.
If you define yourself by that, every woman has at least three*…
Not an USP.
- If she has a colostomy bag, maybe more![/quote]
I wouldn’t consider a butthole a ‘warm wet hole’. I don’t get the whole butthole thing anyway. It’s a dirty place, it’s not made to have the shit pounded back into it, it cannot be comfortable in anyway, it’s an ugly hole, guys have them too, and based on what comes out of them there is no way in hell I would want to put any part of my body into one. It’s a one way street. A waste dump. It’s like putting your dick in to a sewer. Why the hell anybody would want to do that is beyond me.[/quote]
To make her submit utterly.
At least for a while.
[/quote]
I may be insecure, but I am not that insecure. I don’t need submission. It’s scary how you know this. [/quote]
It has nothing to do with you.
It has something to do with the inherent need of women to be dominated.[/quote]
Well, if I want to dominate a woman, I will have her kneel on all fours and use them as a footstool while I watch a football game. That’s way better then trying to scrub fecal matter off my dick.[/quote]
How will she serve beer then?
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
WHY am I such a big baby when it comes to boys!!!
(?)
I care about them so much when they don’t care about me or when they aren’t even good people. OR compatible with me AT ALL !!
ANd I miss them when they don’t miss me !!
ANd I worry about their well being when they don’t even like me!!!
I have the MOST self control in the world when it comes to working out for 2.5hours a day and never eating ANY junk food, but when it comes to boys I have ZIp ZERO zlitch.
Weakling!!!
WEAKLING Puny BABY GIRL
K bye[/quote]
You sound depressed, stop it. You have a lot to be thankful for.
Dudes aren’t that big a deal. Most are jerks, some are not. Women are attracted to jerks for some odd reason. Don’t force anything, let it happen and it will. Just chill, do things you like. Relationships are frustrating enjoy not having one while you can.
The day will come when you will hit the big one, then your stuck for the rest of you life. There’s way more to life than sex and relationships. Enjoy that part.
[/quote]
Oh no, I am not depressed at all. Things are really great right now and I am looking forward to a lot…
I just don’t understand why I always seem to care more about things than everyone else…
[/quote]
You’ll get that special one, don’t worry. And when you do, they tend to not go anywhere, ever. They keep being there whether you like it or not. You soon find out, they aren’t that special after all. They are gross and flawed like everybody else and that which endured you, will annoy the living shit out of you. This story repeats millions of times.
You think you want ‘the one’ now and be done. You don’t. Because once they are there, you’re stuck. You want to go out, do what you always did before, but now you can’t. This whole compromise thing has got you tied down. It’s the oldest story in the book next to prostitution. [/quote]
This is one of the most depressing things I’ve ever read. : ([/quote]
Agreed.
I love the faults of my wife that is what makes her special to me and unique. Damn Pat you dont sound at all happy in your marriage.
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
And he said, ya, you have a really nice vagina and you give oral.
But in my head I was thinking, um, well I meant more like that I am loyal and honest, caring and considerate, fun to be around etc etc…
[/quote]
Well, yes.
Wet warm holes are a dime a dozend.
If you define yourself by that, every woman has at least three*…
Not an USP.
- If she has a colostomy bag, maybe more![/quote]
I wouldn’t consider a butthole a ‘warm wet hole’. I don’t get the whole butthole thing anyway. It’s a dirty place, it’s not made to have the shit pounded back into it, it cannot be comfortable in anyway, it’s an ugly hole, guys have them too, and based on what comes out of them there is no way in hell I would want to put any part of my body into one. It’s a one way street. A waste dump. It’s like putting your dick in to a sewer. Why the hell anybody would want to do that is beyond me.[/quote]
To make her submit utterly.
At least for a while.
[/quote]
I may be insecure, but I am not that insecure. I don’t need submission. It’s scary how you know this. [/quote]
It has nothing to do with you.
It has something to do with the inherent need of women to be dominated.[/quote]
Well, if I want to dominate a woman, I will have her kneel on all fours and use them as a footstool while I watch a football game. That’s way better then trying to scrub fecal matter off my dick.[/quote]
There’s a difference between “dominate” and “humiliate.” I wonder if it would benefit you to learn the difference? One is deliciously “me strong man, you soft woman,” and the other breeds hate.
Moving away from Pat specifically and going to the more general discussion of anal and its purpose and proponents, my experience (limited, so take it for what it’s worth) is that men desperately desire this thing and the more one expresses disinterest (one may believe it could cause permanent damage and feel it’s not worth the other’s pleasure to risk that) the more ardently they seek it. This is solely for the purpose of creating submission? Or what?
Happily, I have not had a personal discussion about this recently, and hopefully won’t. Because I agree with Pat that there are better ways to assert manliness. I just disagree about what those are.