Am I a Bitch?

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

There’s a difference between “dominate” and “humiliate.” I wonder if it would benefit you to learn the difference? One is deliciously “me strong man, you soft woman,” and the other breeds hate.

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There might be, I have never thought about it.

I would say though that the lines are blurry, depending on how much she needs it.

On the other hand there are men who need to reduce women to worthless bitch status in order to be able to have sex at all.

Its hard to say whats what because people can do the exact same thing while the emotional meaning and their attitude towards the act, themselves and their partners can be all over the place.

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[quote]Ronan wrote:
I gotta be honest, outside of SmilingPolitely’s post, this is a joke of a thread. You need to go see a professional. Someone who doesn’t have a internet psych degree. One of your biggest issues is wanting/needing attention. You need to get that under control. To post something intimate & expect actual ‘help responses’ is careless. These people who post ‘way to go’, they don’t know you. They don’t have a clue as to what else is going on in your life. To many variables to give a accurate response. You’re a grown woman for fucks sake, act like one.[/quote]

This was uncalled for.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:
I love the faults of my wife that is what makes her special to me and unique. [/quote]

Ahem… Skuze me…

that wonderful womans onliest fault is her proclivity to throw phone books.

outside of that, she is wonderfulness incarnate~

yes, you can tell her Edgy said so~

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[quote]Ronan wrote:
I gotta be honest, outside of SmilingPolitely’s post, this is a joke of a thread. You need to go see a professional. Someone who doesn’t have a internet psych degree. One of your biggest issues is wanting/needing attention. You need to get that under control. To post something intimate & expect actual ‘help responses’ is careless. These people who post ‘way to go’, they don’t know you. They don’t have a clue as to what else is going on in your life. To many variables to give a accurate response. You’re a grown woman for fucks sake, act like one…[/quote]

Best post. Do you see other girls posting that kind of stuff? No. Imagine if a guy would post this, the reponse would be way different. Guys are dorks for responding positively to this.

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[quote]jasmincar wrote:

[quote]Ronan wrote:
I gotta be honest, outside of SmilingPolitely’s post, this is a joke of a thread. You need to go see a professional. Someone who doesn’t have a internet psych degree. One of your biggest issues is wanting/needing attention. You need to get that under control. To post something intimate & expect actual ‘help responses’ is careless. These people who post ‘way to go’, they don’t know you. They don’t have a clue as to what else is going on in your life. To many variables to give a accurate response. You’re a grown woman for fucks sake, act like one…[/quote]

Best post. Do you see other girls posting that kind of stuff? No. Imagine if a guy would post this, the reponse would be way different. Guys are dorks for responding positively to this.[/quote]

I dont know.

In a very public way, she is holding herself accountable.

How many women would do that?

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[quote]jasmincar wrote:

[quote]Ronan wrote:
I gotta be honest, outside of SmilingPolitely’s post, this is a joke of a thread. You need to go see a professional. Someone who doesn’t have a internet psych degree. One of your biggest issues is wanting/needing attention. You need to get that under control. To post something intimate & expect actual ‘help responses’ is careless. These people who post ‘way to go’, they don’t know you. They don’t have a clue as to what else is going on in your life. To many variables to give a accurate response. You’re a grown woman for fucks sake, act like one…[/quote]

Best post. [/quote]

The last guy she got duped by summed her up her girlfriend qualities as a nice vagina and giving oral. So should we be shocked when she doesn’t find love after being a booty call for a month. Never mind the guy already found another girl to move onto before he was done using her. Desperate girls are easy targets for guys just looking to get laid. Along with any signs of being needy or crazy will scare men off. She may find love. But 20/1 odds are that most men will only see her as a brief sexually opportunity. Its the sad reality.

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OH BROTHER, LOL!

As if !

I’m fucking awesome. I’ll find love if I fucking want to find love, dammit.

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[quote]Spock81 wrote:

I’m fucking awesome. I’ll find love if I fucking want to find love, dammit. [/quote]

Love finds you when you are not looking for it and happy where you are.

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
This is solely for the purpose of creating submission? Or what?

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Sort of yes, sort of no.

Anal is more about “capturing the prize” more than anything. For some the prize is the “submission”, for others the prize is finally getting what she denied you for ever, and others still the prize is wandering into the taboo of it all.

Anal play is fun, if you’re into it. No need for penetration…

But big picture it isn’t strictly about submission, but that is the appeal to some.

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[quote]Edgy wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
I love the faults of my wife that is what makes her special to me and unique. [/quote]

Ahem… Skuze me…

that wonderful womans onliest fault is her proclivity to throw phone books.

outside of that, she is wonderfulness incarnate~

yes, you can tell her Edgy said so~[/quote]
:slight_smile: The Latin rage is a double edged sword.

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

You’ll get that special one, don’t worry. And when you do, they tend to not go anywhere, ever. They keep being there whether you like it or not. You soon find out, they aren’t that special after all. They are gross and flawed like everybody else and that which endured you, will annoy the living shit out of you. This story repeats millions of times.

You think you want ‘the one’ now and be done. You don’t. Because once they are there, you’re stuck. You want to go out, do what you always did before, but now you can’t. This whole compromise thing has got you tied down. It’s the oldest story in the book next to prostitution.

This is one of the most depressing things I’ve ever read. : (
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It’s not depressing, it’s the real world. If you think there is such thing as eternal bliss and happiness and walking on cloud 9 all the time, you are going to be married and divorce many times.

True love abandons the self and focuses on the other. True love endures. It means you do stuff you don’t like. It means that you trade the “wow” for yourself and you serve the other. True love sits in the ER for 12 hours because your in-law got sick. Compromise means you are giving something up constantly.

It really depends on whether you want to be married for 50 years, or you just need somebody to make you feel good about yourself for a little while. Til death do we part is a long time and it endures much. This is reality. It’s not depressing it’s the fact that the ‘ooo’ and the ‘aah’ eventually wanes. Let’s see what you think love is when you are with the same person for 7,300 days.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
This is solely for the purpose of creating submission? Or what?

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Sort of yes, sort of no.

Anal is more about “capturing the prize” more than anything. For some the prize is the “submission”, for others the prize is finally getting what she denied you for ever, and others still the prize is wandering into the taboo of it all.

Anal play is fun, if you’re into it. No need for penetration…

But big picture it isn’t strictly about submission, but that is the appeal to some. [/quote]

I pretty much can take it or leave it - it depends on the girl. Some chicks are REALLY into it. So with those chicks, it’s part of the “repertoire”. And for the record, if a chick is into anal, she will most likely know how to fast before and cleanse her colon so that there is no “shit on the bed”.

This may come off as me being a complete dick, but I used to use it as “punishment”. If something she did wasn’t up to the standard I had set, I’d tell her the only way to get back in my good graces was to give up the butt. Some did, some didn’t. But they NEVER repeated their mistake! LOL It’s really just a test to see how far you can push her sexually (if she’s inexperienced). For chicks who are experienced, then you are simply indulging in her fetish - which is fine as long as she indulges in yours.

Personally, I prefer a good ole’ vag - an asshole doesn’t have anything you can really bottom out on (depending on position) and I like the extra stimulation a cervix provides. And all the preparation is kind of a pain in the ass (ba dum pshhh!) LOL

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@ Pat:

Oh shit. The wizard has spoken again!

I agree fully, and just realized this, this year in fact. A blend of both is what I strive for these days and I do believe this is possible. However it may not last forever, but longer than shorter…And I’m okay with that. That is reality.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Spock81 wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Spock81 wrote:
WHY am I such a big baby when it comes to boys!!!

(?)

I care about them so much when they don’t care about me or when they aren’t even good people. OR compatible with me AT ALL !!
ANd I miss them when they don’t miss me !!
ANd I worry about their well being when they don’t even like me!!!

I have the MOST self control in the world when it comes to working out for 2.5hours a day and never eating ANY junk food, but when it comes to boys I have ZIp ZERO zlitch.

Weakling!!!
WEAKLING Puny BABY GIRL

K bye[/quote]

You sound depressed, stop it. You have a lot to be thankful for.
Dudes aren’t that big a deal. Most are jerks, some are not. Women are attracted to jerks for some odd reason. Don’t force anything, let it happen and it will. Just chill, do things you like. Relationships are frustrating enjoy not having one while you can.
The day will come when you will hit the big one, then your stuck for the rest of you life. There’s way more to life than sex and relationships. Enjoy that part.
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Oh no, I am not depressed at all. Things are really great right now and I am looking forward to a lot…
I just don’t understand why I always seem to care more about things than everyone else…
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You’ll get that special one, don’t worry. And when you do, they tend to not go anywhere, ever. They keep being there whether you like it or not. You soon find out, they aren’t that special after all. They are gross and flawed like everybody else and that which endured you, will annoy the living shit out of you. This story repeats millions of times.

You think you want ‘the one’ now and be done. You don’t. Because once they are there, you’re stuck. You want to go out, do what you always did before, but now you can’t. This whole compromise thing has got you tied down. It’s the oldest story in the book next to prostitution. [/quote]

This is one of the most depressing things I’ve ever read. : ([/quote]
Agreed.

I love the faults of my wife that is what makes her special to me and unique. Damn Pat you dont sound at all happy in your marriage. [/quote]

I am fine, don’t judge me. I’ve been married once and I plan on keeping it exactly that way. Some days I am happy some days I am not, here’s the thing, it’s not about me. You want your marriage to last, you get over yourself. Because if you have a family, they come first and you don’t spend your days doing what you want. Everybody depends on me to make it work. It’s a lot of responsibility and I don’t take it lightly. I sacrifice and I carry a large burden. It’s not a lot of fun to be the one everybody depends on because it’s a heavy burden, but I wouldn’t trade it for anything. My joy is the joy in those who depend on me.

I am way happier than people who get divorced and remarried repeatedly. People put on shows and act a bunch of bullshit but when you pull back the veneer, you see garbage. You see selfishness and the disease if instant gratification. I have seen the other side, I have seen what it does to people and I would never want to be one of those people.

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Spock81 wrote:
And he said, ya, you have a really nice vagina and you give oral.

But in my head I was thinking, um, well I meant more like that I am loyal and honest, caring and considerate, fun to be around etc etc…
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Well, yes.

Wet warm holes are a dime a dozend.

If you define yourself by that, every woman has at least three*…

Not an USP.

  • If she has a colostomy bag, maybe more![/quote]

I wouldn’t consider a butthole a ‘warm wet hole’. I don’t get the whole butthole thing anyway. It’s a dirty place, it’s not made to have the shit pounded back into it, it cannot be comfortable in anyway, it’s an ugly hole, guys have them too, and based on what comes out of them there is no way in hell I would want to put any part of my body into one. It’s a one way street. A waste dump. It’s like putting your dick in to a sewer. Why the hell anybody would want to do that is beyond me.[/quote]

To make her submit utterly.

At least for a while.

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I may be insecure, but I am not that insecure. I don’t need submission. It’s scary how you know this. [/quote]

It has nothing to do with you.

It has something to do with the inherent need of women to be dominated.[/quote]

Well, if I want to dominate a woman, I will have her kneel on all fours and use them as a footstool while I watch a football game. That’s way better then trying to scrub fecal matter off my dick.[/quote]

There’s a difference between “dominate” and “humiliate.” I wonder if it would benefit you to learn the difference? One is deliciously “me strong man, you soft woman,” and the other breeds hate.

Moving away from Pat specifically and going to the more general discussion of anal and its purpose and proponents, my experience (limited, so take it for what it’s worth) is that men desperately desire this thing and the more one expresses disinterest (one may believe it could cause permanent damage and feel it’s not worth the other’s pleasure to risk that) the more ardently they seek it. This is solely for the purpose of creating submission? Or what?

Happily, I have not had a personal discussion about this recently, and hopefully won’t. Because I agree with Pat that there are better ways to assert manliness. I just disagree about what those are.

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I wouldn’t do either. Like I said, I don’t get why people would want that, and I wouldn’t want to do that to another person. Dominate or humiliate, both are terrible things to do to another human being. I don’t get any kind of joy, sadistically or otherwise from hurting another person. It makes me happy to see others happy. I don’t want to hurt, dominate or humiliate another person. I do not like to see people suffer and I couldn’t stand it were it my hand that brought the suffering.

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[quote]Spock81 wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Spock81 wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Spock81 wrote:
WHY am I such a big baby when it comes to boys!!!

(?)

I care about them so much when they don’t care about me or when they aren’t even good people. OR compatible with me AT ALL !!
ANd I miss them when they don’t miss me !!
ANd I worry about their well being when they don’t even like me!!!

I have the MOST self control in the world when it comes to working out for 2.5hours a day and never eating ANY junk food, but when it comes to boys I have ZIp ZERO zlitch.

Weakling!!!
WEAKLING Puny BABY GIRL

K bye[/quote]

You sound depressed, stop it. You have a lot to be thankful for.
Dudes aren’t that big a deal. Most are jerks, some are not. Women are attracted to jerks for some odd reason. Don’t force anything, let it happen and it will. Just chill, do things you like. Relationships are frustrating enjoy not having one while you can.
The day will come when you will hit the big one, then your stuck for the rest of you life. There’s way more to life than sex and relationships. Enjoy that part.
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Oh no, I am not depressed at all. Things are really great right now and I am looking forward to a lot…
I just don’t understand why I always seem to care more about things than everyone else…
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You’ll get that special one, don’t worry. And when you do, they tend to not go anywhere, ever. They keep being there whether you like it or not. You soon find out, they aren’t that special after all. They are gross and flawed like everybody else and that which endured you, will annoy the living shit out of you. This story repeats millions of times.

You think you want ‘the one’ now and be done. You don’t. Because once they are there, you’re stuck. You want to go out, do what you always did before, but now you can’t. This whole compromise thing has got you tied down. It’s the oldest story in the book next to prostitution. [/quote]

This is one of the most depressing things I’ve ever read. : ([/quote]

X’s 10000!!!

I have decided I am going to keep being hopeful/naive and continue my quest for love even if it results in 10000000 more heart breaks and 1 true love it will be worth it.

No regrets!! Stay positive !!

The power of positive thinking is the strongest, most amazing force on the planet.

Real love and good/caring people are out there! Millions of them! The planet is swarming with them. Time to suit up in my beekeepers uniform and search for honey !!!
Swarm my pretties, swarm !!
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Sure there are. You gotta quit chasing the assholes. Why women are attracted to assholes I’ll never know.
And if you get your heart broken a million times, it means you haven’t learned you lesson and your still going after assholes. I would hope for each heart break you learned something so you don’t repeat the same mistakes. You don’t have to fuck up royally to learn your lesson.

But you’re young and full of life and energy, certainly you have other interests then riding some dudes dick all the time? You don’t need a man around to have fun. Like I said, it will find you soon enough, you have to do very little and you don’t have to chase it. You can’t make it happen, it just happens. So you can occupy your time doing things you enjoy that don’t involve penises and emotions.

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[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

You’ll get that special one, don’t worry. And when you do, they tend to not go anywhere, ever. They keep being there whether you like it or not. You soon find out, they aren’t that special after all. They are gross and flawed like everybody else and that which endured you, will annoy the living shit out of you. This story repeats millions of times.

You think you want ‘the one’ now and be done. You don’t. Because once they are there, you’re stuck. You want to go out, do what you always did before, but now you can’t. This whole compromise thing has got you tied down. It’s the oldest story in the book next to prostitution.

This is one of the most depressing things I’ve ever read. : (
[/quote]

It’s not depressing, it’s the real world. If you think there is such thing as eternal bliss and happiness and walking on cloud 9 all the time, you are going to be married and divorce many times.

True love abandons the self and focuses on the other. True love endures. It means you do stuff you don’t like. It means that you trade the “wow” for yourself and you serve the other. True love sits in the ER for 12 hours because your in-law got sick. Compromise means you are giving something up constantly.

It really depends on whether you want to be married for 50 years, or you just need somebody to make you feel good about yourself for a little while. Til death do we part is a long time and it endures much. This is reality. It’s not depressing it’s the fact that the ‘ooo’ and the ‘aah’ eventually wanes. Let’s see what you think love is when you are with the same person for 7,300 days.
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I had to get my calculator out - I believe I’ve put in the requisite 7,300 days. We divorced for reasons that were valid despite my willingness to focus on another. It was the right decision. I hope that I will be able now to choose someone more alike to myself and bring the joy and devotion to a good match that I did to a mismatch. I hope my ex will do the same (he’s not very joyous, but he’s got other good qualities).

I honestly believe that I sound more enthusiastic about a marriage that I left than one you call “true love.” I don’t mean to be critical, truly, but I stand by my “depressing.” Nothing you’ve written above makes me think otherwise.

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[quote]brandon76 wrote:
@ Pat:

Oh shit. The wizard has spoken again!

I agree fully, and just realized this, this year in fact. A blend of both is what I strive for these days and I do believe this is possible. However it may not last forever, but longer than shorter…And I’m okay with that. That is reality. [/quote]

Thanks man! I appreciate you understand what I am saying…
Maybe woman are incapable of understanding things this way, idk. I am all man, I don’t even pretend to understand how women think. I quit trying long ago because the minute you think you got it, you haven’t even scratched the surface.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
This is solely for the purpose of creating submission? Or what?

[/quote]

Sort of yes, sort of no.

Anal is more about “capturing the prize” more than anything. For some the prize is the “submission”, for others the prize is finally getting what she denied you for ever, and others still the prize is wandering into the taboo of it all.

Anal play is fun, if you’re into it. No need for penetration…

But big picture it isn’t strictly about submission, but that is the appeal to some. [/quote]

“The prize” was the sense I got. But maybe the prize was submission, who knows. Men, huh? They’re all lunatics.

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@ Pat Garcia:

Definitely, but here is the thing… Men are much more logical than women. A + B = C. C = we are good and there are no issues. As soon as we think we know how women are feeling emotionally about us…i.e. liking the sensitive side, or wanting us to be more alpha, or whatever. We as guys trying to understand are so wrong more often than not. Just quit trying to fulfill expectations and live in the moment…and a bit into the future but not too far.

I also think women are each all so different and that may be why we can’t nail it. no pun. lol