@ Spok:
Lots of Pot, Lots of Booze = Selfish & Self Centered in most cases. Put the charm on, get more of what one wants. : )
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
OMGGG!!! Too much stuff to read, ha-ha.
Okay so this is stupid:
When we were having dinner one night I was babbling about how I was going to start my own cleaning company (I really like to clean, LOl), and I would have a signature to make MY brand more unique. For example, I would always fold the toilet paper into a tip at the end so make shit all classy.
We were in a hotel shortly after that and the TOILET FUCKING PAPER was folded into a tip.
Mind=BLOWN.
So I went pee and whatever a few hours later I went pee again and HE refolded the FUCKING TOILET PAPER back into a tip!!
I was like ooozzing with smittenness…
A few days ago he sent me a text pic that was of his toilet paper folded into a tip and I felt all heart melty.
My head is like, Jenn, why would he do that thoughtful gesture if he didn’t like you?
See Jenn, see, he’s thinking about you. He cares…
But what everyone says on here makes so much more sense. He doesn’t care about me. He just wants to fuck. He doesn’t want to date me, ever.
He’s probably not really all that honest about anything.
He smokes a lot of pot
Drinks a lot of booze
and fucks a lot of women
THOSE ARE THE FACTS
The fact that I typically ignore and just focus on stupid shit like toilet paper.
This is why I get into these situations.
Gotta look at the real shit more often and dwell less on the little things. [/quote]
I have been the guy in this situation before. I cared just enough about a girl to do little things like that but not nearly enough to date her. I also felt guilty as hell every time we would have sex, her thinking I was finally coming around, me thinking “Well I guess I could, nothing is wrong with her, there is no reason to not like her, but I just don’t” then I would get all weird and crush her. It was a fairly vicious cycle for her, enough that I got Taylor Swifted by her in a lit class my senior year of college, somehow fate brought a 4 year old fling back to haunt me in college. Do yourself a favor and just stop, it will be better for both of you.
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
As an aside, but somewhat related, I just got married to the very girl I screwed around on and was broken up with about a year.
Met accidently again, had a drink, slept together, had a long serious talk that lasted a couple days, got the license, and went to the judge 3 days later. A proper religious marriage will follow, but that is a more complex situation.
So, yes, men who play around do get reformed.
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Congrats.
[quote]twojarslave wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
What we need is a large scale way to corrupt the minds of females on a global scale. As of yet, I think we’re limited by our level of tech.[/quote]
The technology you seek was developed 4000 years ago by the Sumerians.
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LOL!
Holy shit that was good 
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
As an aside, but somewhat related, I just got married to the very girl I screwed around on and was broken up with about a year.
Met accidently again, had a drink, slept together, had a long serious talk that lasted a couple days, got the license, and went to the judge 3 days later. A proper religious marriage will follow, but that is a more complex situation.
So, yes, men who play around do get reformed.
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Omfg dude congratulations! I don’t know if it’s weird to say but this brought a huge smile to my face and like made my day. I could tell you genuinely cared about that girl and regretted what happened. Given how hard you took it at the time I trust you won’t make the same mistake again. I wish you both the best.
There ya go.
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
He smokes a lot of pot
Drinks a lot of booze
and fucks a lot of women
THOSE ARE THE FACTS
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Don’t you have a child?
You really wanted to have a relationship with this guy, which means that eventually you would be bringing him around your child. Does that seem like a good choice?
[quote]jasmincar wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]jasmincar wrote:
I don’t want to be rude but maybe you are ugly? People always say Ã??Ã?«he/she don’t deserve you, there is someone else, etcÃ??Ã?», but why would there be another one? Why would anyone care about you, male or female, if you are not at least a 8/10, with an ability to make the other feel good, smart, etc etc? I am 23 and I have accepted the fact than I am now old and ugly, on the downward slope and that I should lower my standards accordingly. Aren’t you 30 years old or more? Life goes fast and you will be uglier tomorrow than yesterday. Lower your expectations now and get some action before you get too old and you and your partner make each other feel like vomitting from the uglyness. I would stop complaining at this very second and enjoy the little you have now before it’s completely gone. Go in a bar and get the guy, as we can’t do anything in this age.
No one cares if you are a bitch or not. Let go of your emotions and softness, because if you don’t have what other sex want… [/quote]
Nah. We’ve seen pictures of her, and she’s not. Nice try though ugly guy. I’m on to your plan of telling women they’re all ugly and that they should lower their standards and go out and sleep with ugly guys like you asap ;)[/quote]
Hahaha. I am just tired of people telling each other that one day they will find someone, clean, good looking and everything who really like them for what they are inside, etc while they will not. Everyone is disgusted by entropy and uglyness is a form of entropy. If you werent getting what you wanted in your prime, that is in your early twenties, then you will never get it. As you get older, you accumulate even more entropy and you disgust people even more.
Even if you train seriously and have the abs and everything. It has been the same since forever, ugly, poor and dumb people who think they will one day be beautiful, rich and interesting. You are a failure, just like about everyone. I am one, you are one. Get over yourself. The only way you can console yourself is by understanding that even the beautiful/rich or whatever people arent really happy.
Also my plan isn’t to make a woman feel ugly on the internet so I can go to Alberta to have some crappy sex lol.
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Ever think maybe it is your personality and not your looks that have caused you to settle?
[quote] Lorez wrote:
Congrats.
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[quote]Chushin wrote:
No shit?
Congrats to you.
Can I ask how you know you’ll be different this time?
Oh, and will you invite JB to the wedding? 
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[quote]csulli wrote:
Omfg dude congratulations! I don’t know if it’s weird to say but this brought a huge smile to my face and like made my day. I could tell you genuinely cared about that girl and regretted what happened. Given how hard you took it at the time I trust you won’t make the same mistake again. I wish you both the best.[/quote]
Thank you all.
We did the civil marriage thing first, so our families could figure out it was a fait accompli, and she moves in over Memorial Day weekend. Still had the ring.
Found her a job at the Lincoln County hospital in about 2 minutes. Already talked to the families. Her dad actually really likes me and gave me the I-don’t-care-how-big-you-are-I-WILL-kill-you-speech. I don’t doubt him for a second. Her mom said she never stopped loving me and just moped around and dated “short guys” so mom is good. My (step) dad thinks it’s great. My mom won’t get in the way, but told me I am dooming myself to Hell by leaving the Catholic Church. My half-brothers think her sisters and friends are smoking hot (which is true), so they are positioning for groomsmen positions.
Her rabbi was underwhelmed, but knows when a deal is done. Have to spend almost a full year going-back-through conversion process, then get religiously married. Does not approve of what he considers a “shack up,” but also is not being a dick about it.
How do I know I won’t screw around? Well, I just do. I really think I had a bit of PTSD, so was doing all sorts of risky things – not just this, but stupid shit like driving 130mph on twisty mountain roads. But mainly, I was acting like a large child, basically because I could and thought I didn’t have anything to lose.
And no, the other poster is not invited.
[quote]Uncle Gabby wrote:
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
He smokes a lot of pot
Drinks a lot of booze
and fucks a lot of women
THOSE ARE THE FACTS
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Don’t you have a child?
You really wanted to have a relationship with this guy, which means that eventually you would be bringing him around your child. Does that seem like a good choice?
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Well, I was excited by it all at first because he also has a son who is only one year younger than mine so I kinda envisioned us doing happy kid shit together…
However, it seems as though he only sees his kid like once a month so those dreams quickly faded.
OKAY I KNOW HE’S CRAPPY, BUT I HONESTLY WAS SO BLIND TO IT ALL AT FIRST.
AHhhhhhhhh
Oh, also congrats ^^^^^^
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
[quote] Lorez wrote:
Congrats.
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[quote]Chushin wrote:
No shit?
Congrats to you.
Can I ask how you know you’ll be different this time?
Oh, and will you invite JB to the wedding?
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[quote]csulli wrote:
Omfg dude congratulations! I don’t know if it’s weird to say but this brought a huge smile to my face and like made my day. I could tell you genuinely cared about that girl and regretted what happened. Given how hard you took it at the time I trust you won’t make the same mistake again. I wish you both the best.[/quote]
Thank you all.
We did the civil marriage thing first, so our families could figure out it was a fait accompli, and she moves in over Memorial Day weekend. Still had the ring.
Found her a job at the Lincoln County hospital in about 2 minutes. Already talked to the families. Her dad actually really likes me and gave me the I-don’t-care-how-big-you-are-I-WILL-kill-you-speech. I don’t doubt him for a second. Her mom said she never stopped loving me and just moped around and dated “short guys” so mom is good. My (step) dad thinks it’s great. My mom won’t get in the way, but told me I am dooming myself to Hell by leaving the Catholic Church. My half-brothers think her sisters and friends are smoking hot (which is true), so they are positioning for groomsmen positions.
Her rabbi was underwhelmed, but knows when a deal is done. Have to spend almost a full year going-back-through conversion process, then get religiously married. Does not approve of what he considers a “shack up,” but also is not being a dick about it.
How do I know I won’t screw around? Well, I just do. I really think I had a bit of PTSD, so was doing all sorts of risky things – not just this, but stupid shit like driving 130mph on twisty mountain roads. But mainly, I was acting like a large child, basically because I could and thought I didn’t have anything to lose.
And no, the other poster is not invited.
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Congratulations and best wishes!
I must be old fashioned. I have never nor would I now, share a woman with another guy. Fuck buddy? Sure, if I am the only one she is fucking.
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
He doesn’t care about me. He just wants to fuck.[/quote]
Typically speaking, this is how most men come into a relationship.
They seek physical union, and then physical union and time leads to a relationship and love.
Bass-Aackwards, yes.
Bluntly, men fake compassion, caring, interest, etc, to get laid, then somewhere along the line it becomes real.
So that, in and of itself, should not be a deal breaker.
The other items listed, however, are deal breakers.
So shake the dust off your feet and don’t look back.
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As an aside, but somewhat related, I just got married to the very girl I screwed around on and was broken up with about a year.
Met accidently again, had a drink, slept together, had a long serious talk that lasted a couple days, got the license, and went to the judge 3 days later. A proper religious marriage will follow, but that is a more complex situation.
So, yes, men who play around do get reformed.
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Wait, what? That’s awesome. Congrats! Wish you all the best.
Marc
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
He doesn’t care about me. He just wants to fuck.[/quote]
Typically speaking, this is how most men come into a relationship.
They seek physical union, and then physical union and time leads to a relationship and love.
Bass-Aackwards, yes.
Bluntly, men fake compassion, caring, interest, etc, to get laid, then somewhere along the line it becomes real.
So that, in and of itself, should not be a deal breaker.
The other items listed, however, are deal breakers.
So shake the dust off your feet and don’t look back.
+++++++
As an aside, but somewhat related, I just got married to the very girl I screwed around on and was broken up with about a year.
Met accidently again, had a drink, slept together, had a long serious talk that lasted a couple days, got the license, and went to the judge 3 days later. A proper religious marriage will follow, but that is a more complex situation.
So, yes, men who play around do get reformed.
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You know Ruff, from what you’ve written about this in the past, I’ve always believe you could turn it around with this girl. I actually think very few situations can’t be salvaged with the will and the right approach.
Anyway, congratulations!
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
[quote]Uncle Gabby wrote:
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
He smokes a lot of pot
Drinks a lot of booze
and fucks a lot of women
THOSE ARE THE FACTS
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Don’t you have a child?
You really wanted to have a relationship with this guy, which means that eventually you would be bringing him around your child. Does that seem like a good choice?
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Well, I was excited by it all at first because he also has a son who is only one year younger than mine so I kinda envisioned us doing happy kid shit together…
However, it seems as though he only sees his kid like once a month so those dreams quickly faded.
OKAY I KNOW HE’S CRAPPY, BUT I HONESTLY WAS SO BLIND TO IT ALL AT FIRST.
AHhhhhhhhh
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Jenn, have you tried your hand at some dating site and looking for normal guy who’s into scrabble, Chili Peppers and ultra shy chicks with bangin bodies? I’ve got no experience with dating sites but my life experience tells me you would have tons of choices and some of them would be pretty good.
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
He doesn’t care about me. He just wants to fuck.
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You obviously know the answer. It just appears you don’t want to accept it.
No, your not a bitch. He’s just a guy using you.
I definitely am more interested in women who want to be in a relationship when looking for a long term partner. If we sex right up front my experience is it lasts while the sex lasts.
Good move, hope you stick to your guns and you continue to keep an eye out for guys who treat you well.