thinking of using an alternative split, I would still do 1 day 1 day off volume but instead of
A
Chest
Shoulders
back thickness
back width
Triceps
B
Quads
Hams
Calfs
Biceps
forearms
I was thinking of doing a push/pull or posterior/anterior if you like and it would be:
A
Chest
shoulders
triceps
calfs
Quads
B
Back thickness
back width
biceps
forearms
hams
What do u think/
The first isn’t DC anyways.
Train however you want to train, just don’t call it DC.
Do whatever you want. Just dont call it DC training. Im pretty sure Dante set it up the original way for a reason.
[quote]Gl;itch.e wrote:
Do whatever you want. Just dont call it DC training. Im pretty sure Dante set it up the original way for a reason.[/quote]
well it’s hitting every body part every 5th day in the same fashion of DC with extreme stretching so I don’t see the big difference TBH, also I’ve read some people do push/pull/legs and it’s still DC
[quote]danchubbz wrote:
I’ve read some people do push/pull/legs and it’s still DC [/quote]
Negative.
[quote]DOHCrazy wrote:
The first isn’t DC anyways.
Train however you want to train, just don’t call it DC.[/quote]
why isn’t the first DC?
almost all authors state that you can tweak routines to suit you better.
As long as you stick to the principles in place which I do:
-Rep scheme and style
-extreme stretching
-hitting each body part every 5 days
-sscv cardio
-carb cut-offs
[quote]danchubbz wrote:
As long as you stick to the principles in place which I do:
-hitting each body part every 5 days
[/quote]
Incorrect, if I do the A workout on a monday, the B on Wednesday I do A again on Friday. This is not every 5 days.
But try it, progress, eat an excess I’m sure you’ll get bigger.
Just remember you’re talking about fundamental changes to the routine not small tinkering.
[quote]danchubbz wrote:
why isn’t the first DC?[/quote]
The B session is either
Biceps
forearms
Calfs
Quads
Hams
or
Biceps
forearms
Calfs
Hams
Quads
Hams are done last if the hammi exercise is demanding on lower back, for example don’t do SL deadlifts and then squats.
[quote]danchubbz wrote:
almost all authors state that you can tweak routines to suit you better.
[/quote]
Yes and Dante stated 1000000 times that if you change the routine and the way its set up, dont fucking call it DC
Also, why do you feel you need to make some changes to the split?
the way dante structured the order is for a reason and a good one. do some research and you will see why.
is a BMW M3 still M3 if the engine has been replaced by that of another car?
will a car still perform the same if it is FWD and switched to RWD or AWD?
Yes, everyone is different and there is no one-size fit all. Tweak it if you want but, as others have mentioned, do not call it DC training. Why? It is solely for the respect of dante for he has always been telling people who decided to frankenstein the program to not call it DC. Enough people have tweaked with DC and then claimed it sucks or does not work when they have not even adhered to it 100%.
David Henry uses DC principals in his training.
Who cares whatever you call it as long as you derive progress from it.
I don’t see it as a fundamental change as such and he outlines alternative splits in his article such as a pull push legs for people who need to be in and out of the gym quickly and Dante still called it DC training.
But yes as some mentioned if you still train eat and recover correctly then who cares what it’s called!
[quote]zraw wrote:
Also, why do you feel you need to make some changes to the split?[/quote]
I fancied changing the split because I’d rather do some sort of upper body work each session (not just arms before someone points that out!!)
Also I think by doing a push pull split combine well with exercises that overlap, the main being deadlifts for back that hit hams hard as well.
[quote]plateau wrote:
[quote]danchubbz wrote:
why isn’t the first DC?[/quote]
The B session is either
Biceps
forearms
Calfs
Quads
Hams
or
Biceps
forearms
Calfs
Hams
Quads
Hams are done last if the hammi exercise is demanding on lower back, for example don’t do SL deadlifts and then squats.[/quote]
Yes sorry should of wrote them down in the correct order, I just quickly typed them in but I do follow DC’s order when I train
[quote]danchubbz wrote:
But yes as some mentioned if you still train eat and recover correctly then who cares what it’s called! [/quote]
Exactly…that’s why when you modify, you take ownership, call it Chubbz Split!
Have you even tried doing it as written yet?
The order of things is usually based on fatique and injury prevention. Dont for a second think you know more than Dante when it comes to this. That being said I dont see why you wouldnt see gains on this. I would be worried that you going to burn yourself out with all that pushing on one day. How much effort will you be able to give to the Widow Makers after crushing chest, shoulders, tris and calfs? I have reason to believe that pushing work is more neurally draining than pulling (minus deads perhaps) and would think this way isnt totally optimal for legs. Why not just do a push/pull/legs split?
[quote]Gl;itch.e wrote:
The order of things is usually based on fatique and injury prevention. Dont for a second think you know more than Dante when it comes to this. That being said I dont see why you wouldnt see gains on this. I would be worried that you going to burn yourself out with all that pushing on one day. How much effort will you be able to give to the Widow Makers after crushing chest, shoulders, tris and calfs? I have reason to believe that pushing work is more neurally draining than pulling (minus deads perhaps) and would think this way isnt totally optimal for legs. Why not just do a push/pull/legs split?
[/quote]
Might go back to the normal routine after reading your replies, I just enjoy upper body work and waiting for 3days between them seems a lot.
For times when you are truly pressed for time due to work/ family commitments what do u think about doing routine A & B on consecutive days? Not often just now again when wait its more convinient?