Coach Thibs,
Just wanted to get your opinion on supplements that contain multiple supplements so to speak. Kinda like Superfood, but I have been noticing especially with the newer protein supplements, they would also include, EAAs, BCAAs, creatine, minerals, I’ve even seen lots of vitamins and EFAs in some on them now. I work at a nutrition store called good health and this seems to be getting popular. Even with multis too, some of them would have ZMA, creatine and EFAs/omegas too.
Would you recommend such things, using a single product as a source for all or most of your supplements? I asked my boss he and seems to think it would be smart as long the product has an adequate amount of all the supplements, so that you are easily able to make up the rest through your diet. Thank you.
[quote]rasta wrote:
Coach Thibs,
Just wanted to get your opinion on supplements that contain multiple supplements so to speak. Kinda like Superfood, but I have been noticing especially with the newer protein supplements, they would also include, EAAs, BCAAs, creatine, minerals, I’ve even seen lots of vitamins and EFAs in some on them now. I work at a nutrition store called good health and this seems to be getting popular. Even with multis too, some of them would have ZMA, creatine and EFAs/omegas too.
Would you recommend such things, using a single product as a source for all or most of your supplements? I asked my boss he and seems to think it would be smart as long the product has an adequate amount of all the supplements, so that you are easily able to make up the rest through your diet. Thank you.[/quote]
Well first of all, all multi-vitamin and mineral formulas ‘contain’ ZMA since it’s basically zinc, magnesium and vitamin B-6.
By the same token EAA and BCAAs are always ‘included’ in protein supplements since they are amino acids and amino acids are the building blocks of protein. Some companies just started saying that their protein powder contains them, but they always were in there.
Now, when it comes to adding other stuff like creatine. I don’t like it. Some supplements need to be taken at a precise time or in a certain quantity. Including them in a supplement that might be ingested at other times or in greater/lesser quantities kinda makes it hit and miss when it comes to getting good results.
Another factor, and a reason Biotest does not do this, is that it removes from the user control over the intakes of the added vitamins or minerals.
For example, there’s a brand of MRP from a generally-good company that foolishly contains (or contained: it may have changed) 50% of the RDA of iron per serving.
Now, men generally shouldn’t take any supplemental iron (except if desired in the form of liver tabs, which don’t seem to cause elevated iron levels.) So this was not a good thing even if using only one MRP a day, but you know, personally I’ve had as many at least six MRP’s in a day for extended periods.
A more typical example is chromium picolinate. Oh, every product has got to contain 100%, or 50% anyway, of the RDA for chromium. Someone’s MRP, energy bar, multivitamin/multimineral, and fat loss product might ALL contain it.
In short, it’s better for the user to have the control, and for the product to deliver what it needs to do for its purpose. Not to additionally provide insurance coverage, so to speak, on everything else.
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
Another factor, and a reason Biotest does not do this, is that it removes from the user control over the intakes of the added vitamins or minerals.
For example, there’s a brand of MRP from a generally-good company that foolishly contains (or contained: it may have changed) 50% of the RDA of iron per serving.
Now, men generally shouldn’t take any supplemental iron (except if desired in the form of liver tabs, which don’t seem to cause elevated iron levels.) So this was not a good thing even if using only one MRP a day, but you know, personally I’ve had as many at least six MRP’s in a day for extended periods.
A more typical example is chromium picolinate. Oh, every product has got to contain 100%, or 50% anyway, of the RDA for chromium. Someone’s MRP, energy bar, multivitamin/multimineral, and fat loss product might ALL contain it.
In short, it’s better for the user to have the control, and for the product to deliver what it needs to do for its purpose. Not to additionally provide insurance coverage, so to speak, on everything else.
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Good points Bill, that is precisely why i buy most things separately because i like to control how much i have and at certain times of the day.
I think it also has to do with ability to absorb the vitamins and etc. Some vitamins and minerals may block certain other minerals absorption. Taking too much zinc for example may block absorption of copper and iron.