Vtb and lm have both made good points here. His frame is such that powerlifting seems to a reasonable pursuit. I’ve known vtb for years, and his frame and mine are actually mote suited to strongman, but we enjoy pl, so that’s what we do. This guy just needs to find what works for him as far as staying motivated is concerned. Given that it seems he wants to be healthier, any decent nutritional approach coupled with heavy lifting (heavy being relative to his strength levels) will work. For both or either goal just getting the guy moving (aka taking a daily or almost daily walk) will be beneficial.
Sometimes I wish I was fat.
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
[quote]cparker wrote:
Wanting to get into PL’ing is fine and all and he can still do that but his weight is a serious life threat at this point and needs to be his main priority.[/quote]
Wow you can know this without seeing his medical files or having any sort of clue about what his lifestyle and risk factors are? Where did you acquire this skill?
Sounds like the dude is built to be a powerlifter. I laughed when somebody recommended he lose weight and go down a weight class to be more competitive at powerlifting…this was when he was thought to be 4+ bills. you do realize the superheavy weights start at 308 right? LOL Don’t know that many people cutting 100+ pounds for a meet.[/quote]
Medical files? Ill start with the glaring one at top saying he is 5’8" and 380lbs i think that will find its way in there
[quote]cparker wrote:
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
[quote]cparker wrote:
Wanting to get into PL’ing is fine and all and he can still do that but his weight is a serious life threat at this point and needs to be his main priority.[/quote]
Wow you can know this without seeing his medical files or having any sort of clue about what his lifestyle and risk factors are? Where did you acquire this skill?
Sounds like the dude is built to be a powerlifter. I laughed when somebody recommended he lose weight and go down a weight class to be more competitive at powerlifting…this was when he was thought to be 4+ bills. you do realize the superheavy weights start at 308 right? LOL Don’t know that many people cutting 100+ pounds for a meet.[/quote]
Medical files? Ill start with the glaring one at top saying he is 5’8" and 380lbs i think that will find its way in there
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sigh
[quote]Re.po wrote:
He has seen the doctor recently as he felt that the weight was a serious health concern… … the doctor told him he is in perfect health, blood pressure, cholesterol, everything is fine…[/quote]
Great prognosticating. Can you send me the winning lottery numbers too please?
Yep 380lbs of perfect health here! Time to take my crown as SHW powerlifting champion of the world with my A-frame house FULL of insulation
[quote]cparker wrote:
Yep 380lbs of perfect health here! Time to take my crown as SHW powerlifting champion of the world with my A-frame house FULL of insulation[/quote]
Yeah better to listen to the e-doctors who can only think in one dimension over an actual medical doctor…great decision there champ
7 posts in 4 years on this site, half of which are in this thread. Do you even lift?
whoa attack my post count ;_;
[quote]Re.po wrote:
So, I have a buddy who told me that he would like to start lifting and was interested in power lifting. Having only been lifting for a short while I feel very unqualified to advise him on how to start.
He is quite large, I would guess 400 to 450lbs, 5’8 and 30 years old. For being a guy that doesn’t train he is relatively strong, which I guess happens from moving such a large body around. His starting point is very different than what mine was. My problem was being weak his is obviously being heavy and possibly being weak.
What I’m wondering is what advice would you give? Thanks.[/quote]
I’m not a E-Dr., but I slapped on on TV. I hear about a guy who wants to do something besides sit and get fatter, and I think, good for him. PLing can be damn fun for a beginner. Especially when that guy has been called “big guy” for most of his life. I say get him to the gym, let him move some iron and change his life.
Also, make sure he joins TNation so he knows how to get e-butthurted and give worthless e-advice in walls of text. Powerlifting with some guidence beats the butthurt out of the cardio human hamster wheels he might do for a month until he gets bored. He’ll find cardio after he gets strong enough to tire himself out, but for blank frag’n blank…do something!
[quote]TheKraken wrote:
[quote]Re.po wrote:
So, I have a buddy who told me that he would like to start lifting and was interested in power lifting. Having only been lifting for a short while I feel very unqualified to advise him on how to start.
He is quite large, I would guess 400 to 450lbs, 5’8 and 30 years old. For being a guy that doesn’t train he is relatively strong, which I guess happens from moving such a large body around. His starting point is very different than what mine was. My problem was being weak his is obviously being heavy and possibly being weak.
What I’m wondering is what advice would you give? Thanks.[/quote]
I’m not a E-Dr., but I slapped on on TV. I hear about a guy who wants to do something besides sit and get fatter, and I think, good for him. PLing can be damn fun for a beginner. Especially when that guy has been called “big guy” for most of his life. I say get him to the gym, let him move some iron and change his life.
Also, make sure he joins TNation so he knows how to get e-butthurted and give worthless e-advice in walls of text. Powerlifting with some guidence beats the butthurt out of the cardio human hamster wheels he might do for a month until he gets bored. He’ll find cardio after he gets strong enough to tire himself out, but for blank frag’n blank…do something! [/quote]
Very true - the “newbie gains” at the start of your lifting lifestyle are extremely empowering and rewarding; hence why you see young dudes strutting around like little peacocks at the gym when they’ve just pulled or pushed their 4th PR for the month.
For an overweight person who has potentially had poor self image their whole lives, I can only imagine how good this endorphin and confidence rush would feel.
Just get him on a basic program like stronglifts/5x5 after a month or two once he’s training regularly start attacking the diet
[quote]RampantBadger wrote:
Just get him on a basic program like stronglifts/5x5 after a month or two once he’s training regularly start attacking the diet[/quote]
This. There has been a pretty awesome flame war here but also some good advice. Running is boring as shit- it probably kills the joints for a 380lb guy to run, so FUCK THAT. Slowly work on his diet, very slowly. Start changing 3-5 meals a WEEK. Then fix 10 meals a week, then next thing you know, you have fast food only once a week. Starting off with one “cheat meal” isn’t the way to do it, make it very gradual.
Get him pulling a sled, pushing a sled, or doing farmer’s walks after every workout. Again, start off with a trip or two, work up slow. You and I can do it til we vomit almost every time, he probably can’t. Make sure he has some good shoes too.
do madcow 5x5, stronglifts 5x5, any bill starr program, or of course 5/3/1. Show him the programs and let him pick one.