A Few Questions on Lifting Technique

  1. What is proper form for the seated mid grip cable row?

Is Pauline Nordin doing it “right” in this video (@ 22 seconds)?

  1. For barbell shrugs, should I use a snatch grip or a more normal grip?

  2. What are some focused ways to improve grip strength, other than heavy compound lifts?

  3. Is the wide-grip bench press a better lift for chest days than a regular-grip bench press?

  1. She’s cheating some by leaning back, but if you notice, she’s controlling the weight on the eccentric portion of the lift, so I imagine it’s intentional to allow her to get more weight up. If you’re just starting out, try to stay upright and keep your back immobile.

  2. I’ve found snatch grip hits my shoulders and traps harder. YMMV, so try both and see if you can feel a difference.

  3. Plate pinches and towel pullups work really well. I think there was an article up not to long ago about improving grip strength, try using the search function.

  4. Depends on your goals and body type.

  1. What is proper form for the seated mid grip cable row?

I think thats correct form. But i don’t know. You should do bent BB rows.

Is Pauline Nordin doing it “right” in this video (@ 22 seconds)?

  1. For barbell shrugs, should I use a snatch grip or a more normal grip?
    Normal, but i don’t think there would be any problem with snatch.

  2. What are some focused ways to improve grip strength, other than heavy compound lifts?

Larger handles, DB holds, Captain of Crush. It’s important to work your whole forearm to maintain balance and get the maximum out of your grip strength. Read “Keep your chin up” for a great forearm workout.

  1. Is the wide-grip bench press a better lift for chest days than a regular-grip bench press?
    Yes.
  1. damn she is strong…I like it. I don’t know about ‘proper’ form for the cable row. I tend to prefer to lock in the low back and focus on the upper back and proper scapular movement when I’m going for moderate to high reps. When I’m going for heavy ass weight I tend to rock a little incorporating the low back like she does.

  2. I vary my grip width from pointer on edge of knurling to pointer on outside edge of ring in the knurling. So probably from 14-40ish inches if I had to guess. I’ve heard that grip width influences how the traps grow (narrow for height, wide for width) but I don’t really think that is the case.

The difference in grip just augments the ROM and force lines a little for a slightly different feel in my opinion. Maybe someone more knowledgeable can answer better.

  1. Try this: http://www.T-Nation.com/readArticle.do?id=462101 (first grip training article I came across.

  2. I like it better. You can certainly modify the press to target certain muscles more effectively. If I had to guess you’d probably target your chest best with a wide grip, flared elbows, flat back, and pressing in with your hands as you lift.

[quote]ninjaboy wrote:

  1. She’s cheating some by leaning back, but if you notice, she’s controlling the weight on the eccentric portion of the lift, so I imagine it’s intentional to allow her to get more weight up. If you’re just starting out, try to stay upright and keep your back immobile.

  2. I’ve found snatch grip hits my shoulders and traps harder. YMMV, so try both and see if you can feel a difference.

  3. Plate pinches and towel pullups work really well. I think there was an article up not to long ago about improving grip strength, try using the search function.

  4. Depends on your goals and body type.[/quote]

I concur, not much cheating going on. it is the boobs that are throwing the OP off.

Well, they are somewhat distracting.

  1. Is it a good idea to go heavy on legs and do HIIT in the same session?

I did this tonight:

leg press machine
seated leg curls
seated leg extensions
calf raises
glute machine

then:

bike HIIT

  • 7 x 90 seconds low intensity / 30 seconds high intensity

Afterwards, I felt like the possible outcomes were 50% puke, 50% head explode.

[Note: I go to a cheap gym that doesn’t have any barbells; otherwise, I would be doing squats.]

[quote]Zangief wrote:
5. Is it a good idea to go heavy on legs and do HIIT in the same session?

I did this tonight:

leg press machine
seated leg curls
seated leg extensions
calf raises
glute machine

then:

bike HIIT

  • 7 x 90 seconds low intensity / 30 seconds high intensity

Afterwards, I felt like the possible outcomes were 50% puke, 50% head explode.

[Note: I go to a cheap gym that doesn’t have any barbells; otherwise, I would be doing squats.][/quote]

Those the only possible outcomes for HIIT. It means you did it right.

I’d do some lunges or Bulgarian split squats

  1. The problem with leaning too far back during cable rows is that it shifts the off of the mid traps, lats, and rhomboids and utilizes the extremely strong upper trap muscles. The rest of her form is great, she lets the shoulder blades move forward without rounding of the upper spine.

  2. Use both, and dumbbells, it is always good to have variety.

  3. Not using aids like wraps for exercises.

  4. If done correctly, using a wider grip will force the pectorals to bear more of the load in comparison to the triceps.

  5. It is not optimal, but should be fine.

[quote]Zagman wrote:

  1. The problem with leaning too far back during cable rows is that it shifts the off of the mid traps, lats, and rhomboids and utilizes the extremely strong upper trap muscles. The rest of her form is great, she lets the shoulder blades move forward without rounding of the upper spine.

  2. Use both, and dumbbells, it is always good to have variety.

  3. Not using aids like wraps for exercises.

  4. If done correctly, using a wider grip will force the pectorals to bear more of the load in comparison to the triceps.

  5. It is not optimal, but should be fine.[/quote]

Thanks for the response.

  1. My gym sucks. It doesn’t have dumbbells over 75 pounds, so they’re not really heavy enough to shrug.

  2. I don’t use any wraps. But my grip still always seems to be a limiting factor when I do several sets of any of the big lifts, like snatches or cleans. I’ll try some of the other posters’ suggestions on this.

  3. What would be optimal?

Other than feeling like shit, I thought doing lifting and HIIT on the same day was good, because HIIT is intense anaerobic exercise like lifting. I thought you didn’t want to put them on back-to-back days and stress the CNS too much.

Or should I just do HIIT on lifting days other than legs days?

BTW, I’ve done a fare amount of HIIT before. I always feel kind of crappy after. But today was different; I just felt awful.