A Crossfit Thread

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]setto222 wrote:
Good bump. I’m currently involved in the Live-Spill. Would like to know people’s opinions on higher rep Oly lifts. [/quote]
I personally have no problem with them, but I competed in the sport and consider myself pretty damn efficient at the lifts. That’s not most people though, most people suck at the lifts and have no business going beyond 3 reps.[/quote]

A Crossfit person should go through theses steps, not skip to the next until the one you are on is mastered.

  1. Learn to lift properly
  2. Make technique automatic
  3. Make technique solid even in a slightly fatgued state (complexes)
  4. Learn to maintain solid technique with higher reps
  5. Develop the capacity to do technically correct, high-reps O-lifts as part of an intense WOD[/quote]

Superb advise!

When a particular WOD demands that I do a lot of reps of a particular Oly lift at a weight I am not comfortable with, I tend to break up the set into much smaller clusters. But let’s say it’s a lift/weight i’m comfortable with, I see no harm in going to town!

I compete with myself and others online. Posting a good time is not work me getting injured over. However I can see how a lot of people in one area (like a CF gym…OUPS I MEAN BOX!) would throw around their ego and just as easily throw out their backs.

[quote]setto222 wrote:

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]setto222 wrote:
Good bump. I’m currently involved in the Live-Spill. Would like to know people’s opinions on higher rep Oly lifts. [/quote]
I personally have no problem with them, but I competed in the sport and consider myself pretty damn efficient at the lifts. That’s not most people though, most people suck at the lifts and have no business going beyond 3 reps.[/quote]

A Crossfit person should go through theses steps, not skip to the next until the one you are on is mastered.

  1. Learn to lift properly
  2. Make technique automatic
  3. Make technique solid even in a slightly fatgued state (complexes)
  4. Learn to maintain solid technique with higher reps
  5. Develop the capacity to do technically correct, high-reps O-lifts as part of an intense WOD[/quote]

Superb advise!

When a particular WOD demands that I do a lot of reps of a particular Oly lift at a weight I am not comfortable with, I tend to break up the set into much smaller clusters. But let’s say it’s a lift/weight i’m comfortable with, I see no harm in going to town!

I compete with myself and others online. Posting a good time is not work me getting injured over. However I can see how a lot of people in one area (like a CF gym…OUPS I MEAN BOX!) would throw around their ego and just as easily throw out their backs. [/quote]

Personally, as a coach who teaches the olympic lifts to a lot of crossfitters, nothing makes me more mad than seeing the same guys who come to my class forget all the technique I taught them because they want to go faster in their WODs.

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]setto222 wrote:

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]setto222 wrote:
Good bump. I’m currently involved in the Live-Spill. Would like to know people’s opinions on higher rep Oly lifts. [/quote]
I personally have no problem with them, but I competed in the sport and consider myself pretty damn efficient at the lifts. That’s not most people though, most people suck at the lifts and have no business going beyond 3 reps.[/quote]

A Crossfit person should go through theses steps, not skip to the next until the one you are on is mastered.

  1. Learn to lift properly
  2. Make technique automatic
  3. Make technique solid even in a slightly fatgued state (complexes)
  4. Learn to maintain solid technique with higher reps
  5. Develop the capacity to do technically correct, high-reps O-lifts as part of an intense WOD[/quote]

Superb advise!

When a particular WOD demands that I do a lot of reps of a particular Oly lift at a weight I am not comfortable with, I tend to break up the set into much smaller clusters. But let’s say it’s a lift/weight i’m comfortable with, I see no harm in going to town!

I compete with myself and others online. Posting a good time is not work me getting injured over. However I can see how a lot of people in one area (like a CF gym…OUPS I MEAN BOX!) would throw around their ego and just as easily throw out their backs. [/quote]

Personally, as a coach who teaches the olympic lifts to a lot of crossfitters, nothing makes me more mad than seeing the same guys who come to my class forget all the technique I taught them because they want to go faster in their WODs.[/quote]

Well the director of programming for Crossfit encourages 20% “slop” in your workout so you can increase your “work capacity”.

They are just following orders CT.

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]setto222 wrote:

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]setto222 wrote:
Good bump. I’m currently involved in the Live-Spill. Would like to know people’s opinions on higher rep Oly lifts. [/quote]
I personally have no problem with them, but I competed in the sport and consider myself pretty damn efficient at the lifts. That’s not most people though, most people suck at the lifts and have no business going beyond 3 reps.[/quote]

A Crossfit person should go through theses steps, not skip to the next until the one you are on is mastered.

  1. Learn to lift properly
  2. Make technique automatic
  3. Make technique solid even in a slightly fatgued state (complexes)
  4. Learn to maintain solid technique with higher reps
  5. Develop the capacity to do technically correct, high-reps O-lifts as part of an intense WOD[/quote]

Superb advise!

When a particular WOD demands that I do a lot of reps of a particular Oly lift at a weight I am not comfortable with, I tend to break up the set into much smaller clusters. But let’s say it’s a lift/weight i’m comfortable with, I see no harm in going to town!

I compete with myself and others online. Posting a good time is not work me getting injured over. However I can see how a lot of people in one area (like a CF gym…OUPS I MEAN BOX!) would throw around their ego and just as easily throw out their backs. [/quote]

Personally, as a coach who teaches the olympic lifts to a lot of crossfitters, nothing makes me more mad than seeing the same guys who come to my class forget all the technique I taught them because they want to go faster in their WODs.[/quote]

Well the director of programming for Crossfit encourages 20% “slop” in your workout so you can increase your “work capacity”.

They are just following orders CT.[/quote]

Worst case scenario, do that on non-technical moves like burpees, wall ball and box jums… not something technical (and potentially dangerous by being sloppy) moves like the olympic lifts.

The 4 ideas that the author “stole” were:

  • Rest time as a tool
  • Training multiple strength qualities
  • Using more gymnastic movements
  • Having group environment

The problem with pre planning rest is that (I find) it has the most variability with the least rate of return. Other than maybe stability, set by set rest intervals tend to vary GREATLY based on how stressed you are, sleep, and other outside factors (again, based off my experience). Plus, it makes the workout less enjoyable sine you have one eye on the clock all the time. I would rather start my next set when feeling ready.

As for the second and third point, CT has introduced his star complexes and ring work a while back that are based on the same principles, and are programmed much more methodically.

The last thing should be irrelevant to T-Nation. We are supposed to be the part of society that does this with a crowd watching or alone, rain or shine, whether you live the California lifestyle or train in some dungeon in the middle of nowhere.

The reason I guess I’m so critical of crossfit is that the idea was supposed to be “look like a bodybuilder, strong like a powerlifter, technique of the weightlifter, and endurance of the marathon runner”. Regardless of whether you are a firefighter or retired, the same workouts got the same results. They basically scrapped that, completely changed everything, and then told us how it’s improved. That’s akin to me having a crappy coach, firing him, hiring a new one, and telling everyone how much my old coach improved.

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]setto222 wrote:

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]setto222 wrote:
Good bump. I’m currently involved in the Live-Spill. Would like to know people’s opinions on higher rep Oly lifts. [/quote]
I personally have no problem with them, but I competed in the sport and consider myself pretty damn efficient at the lifts. That’s not most people though, most people suck at the lifts and have no business going beyond 3 reps.[/quote]

A Crossfit person should go through theses steps, not skip to the next until the one you are on is mastered.

  1. Learn to lift properly
  2. Make technique automatic
  3. Make technique solid even in a slightly fatgued state (complexes)
  4. Learn to maintain solid technique with higher reps
  5. Develop the capacity to do technically correct, high-reps O-lifts as part of an intense WOD[/quote]

Superb advise!

When a particular WOD demands that I do a lot of reps of a particular Oly lift at a weight I am not comfortable with, I tend to break up the set into much smaller clusters. But let’s say it’s a lift/weight i’m comfortable with, I see no harm in going to town!

I compete with myself and others online. Posting a good time is not work me getting injured over. However I can see how a lot of people in one area (like a CF gym…OUPS I MEAN BOX!) would throw around their ego and just as easily throw out their backs. [/quote]

Personally, as a coach who teaches the olympic lifts to a lot of crossfitters, nothing makes me more mad than seeing the same guys who come to my class forget all the technique I taught them because they want to go faster in their WODs.[/quote]

Well the director of programming for Crossfit encourages 20% “slop” in your workout so you can increase your “work capacity”.

They are just following orders CT.[/quote]

Not one “box” in my area advocates this anymore. You can’t really put up good times if you’re injured.

[quote]Aggv wrote:
I know this is a illegitimate reason to hate on crossfit, but all the people i know who do it are the stereotypical “cult-fitter douche”. They only wear crossfit branded clothing, and are constantly proclaiming it to be the greatest thing to ever happen to the fitness world. As if the results of exercising and a proper diet are some how a revolutionary and only applied to crossfit workouts.

I get the appeal of working out with your friends. But why spend all that money to join a gym, when the equipment could be purchased for the amount of a year membership and just invite your friends over to work out.

I would join a gym strictly to meet the women tho…[/quote]

This.

Just like anything else, when a methodology is deemed “the best” and it’s crammed down your throat by a bunch of obnoxious cultists - it tends to garner a negative reaction from most people.

[quote]IFlashBack wrote:
The 4 ideas that the author “stole” were:

  • Rest time as a tool
  • Training multiple strength qualities
  • Using more gymnastic movements
  • Having group environment

The problem with pre planning rest is that (I find) it has the most variability with the least rate of return. Other than maybe stability, set by set rest intervals tend to vary GREATLY based on how stressed you are, sleep, and other outside factors (again, based off my experience). Plus, it makes the workout less enjoyable sine you have one eye on the clock all the time. I would rather start my next set when feeling ready.

As for the second and third point, CT has introduced his star complexes and ring work a while back that are based on the same principles, and are programmed much more methodically.

The last thing should be irrelevant to T-Nation. We are supposed to be the part of society that does this with a crowd watching or alone, rain or shine, whether you live the California lifestyle or train in some dungeon in the middle of nowhere.

The reason I guess I’m so critical of crossfit is that the idea was supposed to be “look like a bodybuilder, strong like a powerlifter, technique of the weightlifter, and endurance of the marathon runner”. Regardless of whether you are a firefighter or retired, the same workouts got the same results. They basically scrapped that, completely changed everything, and then told us how it’s improved. That’s akin to me having a crappy coach, firing him, hiring a new one, and telling everyone how much my old coach improved.
[/quote]

I think it would be more akin to firing a coach, hiring a new one who has improved on the old methodologies and telling everybody how much my training has improved. You would scrap a method of fitness just because they decided to change and evolve with the times?

What are you opinions on CF for the fun of it?

[quote]setto222 wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]setto222 wrote:

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]setto222 wrote:
Good bump. I’m currently involved in the Live-Spill. Would like to know people’s opinions on higher rep Oly lifts. [/quote]
I personally have no problem with them, but I competed in the sport and consider myself pretty damn efficient at the lifts. That’s not most people though, most people suck at the lifts and have no business going beyond 3 reps.[/quote]

A Crossfit person should go through theses steps, not skip to the next until the one you are on is mastered.

  1. Learn to lift properly
  2. Make technique automatic
  3. Make technique solid even in a slightly fatgued state (complexes)
  4. Learn to maintain solid technique with higher reps
  5. Develop the capacity to do technically correct, high-reps O-lifts as part of an intense WOD[/quote]

Superb advise!

When a particular WOD demands that I do a lot of reps of a particular Oly lift at a weight I am not comfortable with, I tend to break up the set into much smaller clusters. But let’s say it’s a lift/weight i’m comfortable with, I see no harm in going to town!

I compete with myself and others online. Posting a good time is not work me getting injured over. However I can see how a lot of people in one area (like a CF gym…OUPS I MEAN BOX!) would throw around their ego and just as easily throw out their backs. [/quote]

Personally, as a coach who teaches the olympic lifts to a lot of crossfitters, nothing makes me more mad than seeing the same guys who come to my class forget all the technique I taught them because they want to go faster in their WODs.[/quote]

Well the director of programming for Crossfit encourages 20% “slop” in your workout so you can increase your “work capacity”.

They are just following orders CT.[/quote]

Not one “box” in my area advocates this anymore. You can’t really put up good times if you’re injured. [/quote]

Very true, the two friends of mine who own boxes advocate super strict form and no longer allow kipping.

I’m actually two weeks (4 classes) into the “on-ramp” program. Reason I decided to give it a try is that I have several friends who do CrossFit and I’m pretty impressed with their results. I also have another friend who did CrossFit for several years and is now solely into Power Lifting. My regular gym is just 1 mile from my house. A serious warehouse gym (that has CrossFit classes in it’s parking lot) is about 4 miles from my house.

I figured I would give it a try and do CrossFit on Saturdays (cheaper rate for just Saturdays) and the regular gym during the week. So far, I like what I’m doing. I’ve been reading through the Level 1 Instructor Training Guide in order to get a grasp on the system and it’s pretty interesting. I was in the Army, so varied high-intensity training has always had my interest vs. straight-up lifting. Again, I’m just giving it a try…figured, why not.

[quote]anothrjrzmike wrote:
I’m actually two weeks (4 classes) into the “on-ramp” program. Reason I decided to give it a try is that I have several friends who do CrossFit and I’m pretty impressed with their results. I also have another friend who did CrossFit for several years and is now solely into Power Lifting. My regular gym is just 1 mile from my house. A serious warehouse gym (that has CrossFit classes in it’s parking lot) is about 4 miles from my house.

I figured I would give it a try and do CrossFit on Saturdays (cheaper rate for just Saturdays) and the regular gym during the week. So far, I like what I’m doing. I’ve been reading through the Level 1 Instructor Training Guide in order to get a grasp on the system and it’s pretty interesting. I was in the Army, so varied high-intensity training has always had my interest vs. straight-up lifting. Again, I’m just giving it a try…figured, why not. [/quote]

Cool stuff! Let us know how it goes

[quote]setto222 wrote:

[quote]IFlashBack wrote:
The 4 ideas that the author “stole” were:

  • Rest time as a tool
  • Training multiple strength qualities
  • Using more gymnastic movements
  • Having group environment

The problem with pre planning rest is that (I find) it has the most variability with the least rate of return. Other than maybe stability, set by set rest intervals tend to vary GREATLY based on how stressed you are, sleep, and other outside factors (again, based off my experience). Plus, it makes the workout less enjoyable sine you have one eye on the clock all the time. I would rather start my next set when feeling ready.

As for the second and third point, CT has introduced his star complexes and ring work a while back that are based on the same principles, and are programmed much more methodically.

The last thing should be irrelevant to T-Nation. We are supposed to be the part of society that does this with a crowd watching or alone, rain or shine, whether you live the California lifestyle or train in some dungeon in the middle of nowhere.

The reason I guess I’m so critical of crossfit is that the idea was supposed to be “look like a bodybuilder, strong like a powerlifter, technique of the weightlifter, and endurance of the marathon runner”. Regardless of whether you are a firefighter or retired, the same workouts got the same results. They basically scrapped that, completely changed everything, and then told us how it’s improved. That’s akin to me having a crappy coach, firing him, hiring a new one, and telling everyone how much my old coach improved.
[/quote]

I think it would be more akin to firing a coach, hiring a new one who has improved on the old methodologies and telling everybody how much my training has improved. You would scrap a method of fitness just because they decided to change and evolve with the times?

What are you opinions on CF for the fun of it? [/quote]

I think anything fitness related is great. Crossfit is absolutely 1000 times better than sitting at home.

I don’t agonize crossfit because of the injuries, or the “I’m better” mentality, because bodybuilders, powerlifters, models, etc. all have that.

I just think that the only thing that’s different between Crossfit and group of guys in a Metroflex is a stopwatch, a few power cleans and good brand manager.

[quote]SkyNett wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:
I know this is a illegitimate reason to hate on crossfit, but all the people i know who do it are the stereotypical “cult-fitter douche”. They only wear crossfit branded clothing, and are constantly proclaiming it to be the greatest thing to ever happen to the fitness world. As if the results of exercising and a proper diet are some how a revolutionary and only applied to crossfit workouts.

I get the appeal of working out with your friends. But why spend all that money to join a gym, when the equipment could be purchased for the amount of a year membership and just invite your friends over to work out.

I would join a gym strictly to meet the women tho…[/quote]

This.

Just like anything else, when a methodology is deemed “the best” and it’s crammed down your throat by a bunch of obnoxious cultists - it tends to garner a negative reaction from most people.

[/quote]
I can definitely agree with that. I’ve met my fair share of people who would only wear Rogue Fitness Do-wins shoes, Rogue Fitness knee high socks, Rogue Fitness wrist wraps, & a Rogue Fitness t-shirt. Kind of comical to say the least.

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]SkyNett wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:
I know this is a illegitimate reason to hate on crossfit, but all the people i know who do it are the stereotypical “cult-fitter douche”. They only wear crossfit branded clothing, and are constantly proclaiming it to be the greatest thing to ever happen to the fitness world. As if the results of exercising and a proper diet are some how a revolutionary and only applied to crossfit workouts.

I get the appeal of working out with your friends. But why spend all that money to join a gym, when the equipment could be purchased for the amount of a year membership and just invite your friends over to work out.

I would join a gym strictly to meet the women tho…[/quote]

This.

Just like anything else, when a methodology is deemed “the best” and it’s crammed down your throat by a bunch of obnoxious cultists - it tends to garner a negative reaction from most people.

[/quote]
I can definitely agree with that. I’ve met my fair share of people who would only wear Rogue Fitness Do-wins shoes, Rogue Fitness knee high socks, Rogue Fitness wrist wraps, & a Rogue Fitness t-shirt. Kind of comical to say the least.[/quote]

That’s you demonstrate how “hardcore” and “elite” you are.

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]SkyNett wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:
I know this is a illegitimate reason to hate on crossfit, but all the people i know who do it are the stereotypical “cult-fitter douche”. They only wear crossfit branded clothing, and are constantly proclaiming it to be the greatest thing to ever happen to the fitness world. As if the results of exercising and a proper diet are some how a revolutionary and only applied to crossfit workouts.

I get the appeal of working out with your friends. But why spend all that money to join a gym, when the equipment could be purchased for the amount of a year membership and just invite your friends over to work out.

I would join a gym strictly to meet the women tho…[/quote]

This.

Just like anything else, when a methodology is deemed “the best” and it’s crammed down your throat by a bunch of obnoxious cultists - it tends to garner a negative reaction from most people.

[/quote]
I can definitely agree with that. I’ve met my fair share of people who would only wear Rogue Fitness Do-wins shoes, Rogue Fitness knee high socks, Rogue Fitness wrist wraps, & a Rogue Fitness t-shirt. Kind of comical to say the least.[/quote]

That’s you demonstrate how “hardcore” and “elite” you are. [/quote]

Also by telling everybody you know about your EELEEETness

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]SkyNett wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:
I know this is a illegitimate reason to hate on crossfit, but all the people i know who do it are the stereotypical “cult-fitter douche”. They only wear crossfit branded clothing, and are constantly proclaiming it to be the greatest thing to ever happen to the fitness world. As if the results of exercising and a proper diet are some how a revolutionary and only applied to crossfit workouts.

I get the appeal of working out with your friends. But why spend all that money to join a gym, when the equipment could be purchased for the amount of a year membership and just invite your friends over to work out.

I would join a gym strictly to meet the women tho…[/quote]

This.

Just like anything else, when a methodology is deemed “the best” and it’s crammed down your throat by a bunch of obnoxious cultists - it tends to garner a negative reaction from most people.

[/quote]
I can definitely agree with that. I’ve met my fair share of people who would only wear Rogue Fitness Do-wins shoes, Rogue Fitness knee high socks, Rogue Fitness wrist wraps, & a Rogue Fitness t-shirt. Kind of comical to say the least.[/quote]

That’s you demonstrate how “hardcore” and “elite” you are. [/quote]

Also by telling everybody you know about your EELEEETness[/quote]

Most noticeably done by updating your facebook every time you’re at your box, and by taking pictures of the sweet paleo food you make.

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]SkyNett wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:
I know this is a illegitimate reason to hate on crossfit, but all the people i know who do it are the stereotypical “cult-fitter douche”. They only wear crossfit branded clothing, and are constantly proclaiming it to be the greatest thing to ever happen to the fitness world. As if the results of exercising and a proper diet are some how a revolutionary and only applied to crossfit workouts.

I get the appeal of working out with your friends. But why spend all that money to join a gym, when the equipment could be purchased for the amount of a year membership and just invite your friends over to work out.

I would join a gym strictly to meet the women tho…[/quote]

This.

Just like anything else, when a methodology is deemed “the best” and it’s crammed down your throat by a bunch of obnoxious cultists - it tends to garner a negative reaction from most people.

[/quote]
I can definitely agree with that. I’ve met my fair share of people who would only wear Rogue Fitness Do-wins shoes, Rogue Fitness knee high socks, Rogue Fitness wrist wraps, & a Rogue Fitness t-shirt. Kind of comical to say the least.[/quote]

That’s you demonstrate how “hardcore” and “elite” you are. [/quote]

Also by telling everybody you know about your EELEEETness[/quote]

Most noticeably done by updating your facebook every time you’re at your box, and by taking pictures of the sweet paleo food you make. [/quote]
Does anyone know if Rogue is public company? Might be a good investment.

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]SkyNett wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:
I know this is a illegitimate reason to hate on crossfit, but all the people i know who do it are the stereotypical “cult-fitter douche”. They only wear crossfit branded clothing, and are constantly proclaiming it to be the greatest thing to ever happen to the fitness world. As if the results of exercising and a proper diet are some how a revolutionary and only applied to crossfit workouts.

I get the appeal of working out with your friends. But why spend all that money to join a gym, when the equipment could be purchased for the amount of a year membership and just invite your friends over to work out.

I would join a gym strictly to meet the women tho…[/quote]

This.

Just like anything else, when a methodology is deemed “the best” and it’s crammed down your throat by a bunch of obnoxious cultists - it tends to garner a negative reaction from most people.

[/quote]
I can definitely agree with that. I’ve met my fair share of people who would only wear Rogue Fitness Do-wins shoes, Rogue Fitness knee high socks, Rogue Fitness wrist wraps, & a Rogue Fitness t-shirt. Kind of comical to say the least.[/quote]

That’s you demonstrate how “hardcore” and “elite” you are. [/quote]

Also by telling everybody you know about your EELEEETness[/quote]

Most noticeably done by updating your facebook every time you’re at your box, and by taking pictures of the sweet paleo food you make. [/quote]
Does anyone know if Rogue is public company? Might be a good investment.[/quote]

I don’t think so D…I heard there was some friction between them and EliteFTS over some client nabbing tho.

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]SkyNett wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:
I know this is a illegitimate reason to hate on crossfit, but all the people i know who do it are the stereotypical “cult-fitter douche”. They only wear crossfit branded clothing, and are constantly proclaiming it to be the greatest thing to ever happen to the fitness world. As if the results of exercising and a proper diet are some how a revolutionary and only applied to crossfit workouts.

I get the appeal of working out with your friends. But why spend all that money to join a gym, when the equipment could be purchased for the amount of a year membership and just invite your friends over to work out.

I would join a gym strictly to meet the women tho…[/quote]

This.

Just like anything else, when a methodology is deemed “the best” and it’s crammed down your throat by a bunch of obnoxious cultists - it tends to garner a negative reaction from most people.

[/quote]
I can definitely agree with that. I’ve met my fair share of people who would only wear Rogue Fitness Do-wins shoes, Rogue Fitness knee high socks, Rogue Fitness wrist wraps, & a Rogue Fitness t-shirt. Kind of comical to say the least.[/quote]

That’s you demonstrate how “hardcore” and “elite” you are. [/quote]

Also by telling everybody you know about your EELEEETness[/quote]

Most noticeably done by updating your facebook every time you’re at your box, and by taking pictures of the sweet paleo food you make. [/quote]
Does anyone know if Rogue is public company? Might be a good investment.[/quote]

Nope. Can’t find it online. Either way I think it would be much like Lulu-Lemon at this point just a safe steady stock.

Crossfit football has been around for a while now. Does anybody have any thoughts or experience on the program?