A Crossfit Thread

Training
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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]setto222 wrote:
As soon as you realize that CF isn’t going to give you an incredible physique in a very short amount of time, it becomes a lot more fun. This is probably the main reason you don’t often see it praised or even somewhat respected on BB websites. [/quote]

I still like it better than cardio if someone wants to add a little something to his training to lose fat.
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If you see this CT would like your opinion on something.

What is your opinion on Turkish Get ups? I will do them very, very rarely when I am just to sore from all the heavy lifting and need a little break. [/quote]

The only time I used it was with one of my fitness competitor who kept hurting her back during her gymnastic/tumbling training.

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[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]setto222 wrote:
As soon as you realize that CF isn’t going to give you an incredible physique in a very short amount of time, it becomes a lot more fun. This is probably the main reason you don’t often see it praised or even somewhat respected on BB websites. [/quote]

I still like it better than cardio if someone wants to add a little something to his training to lose fat.
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If you see this CT would like your opinion on something.

What is your opinion on Turkish Get ups? I will do them very, very rarely when I am just to sore from all the heavy lifting and need a little break. [/quote]

The only time I used it was with one of my fitness competitor who kept hurting her back during her gymnastic/tumbling training. [/quote]

Yea thanks, I do not see the point.

Only if I was planning on going into circus performing.

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[quote]IFlashBack wrote:
So wait

We established here that is good when:

  • We remove the high rep olympic lifts
  • We don’t train for the most amount of crappy reps for the sake of time
  • We program properly
  • We use the basic lifts
  • We use stricter form
  • We don’t chiefly use kipping

What makes this “Crossfit”? What makes this different than anything else? [/quote]

The fact that there’s a different workout every day as well as the competition aspect. Nothing REALLY makes it all that different because it all boils down to “exercising”.

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I know this is a illegitimate reason to hate on crossfit, but all the people i know who do it are the stereotypical “cult-fitter douche”. They only wear crossfit branded clothing, and are constantly proclaiming it to be the greatest thing to ever happen to the fitness world. As if the results of exercising and a proper diet are some how a revolutionary and only applied to crossfit workouts.

I get the appeal of working out with your friends. But why spend all that money to join a gym, when the equipment could be purchased for the amount of a year membership and just invite your friends over to work out.

I would join a gym strictly to meet the women tho…

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[quote]Aggv wrote:
I know this is a illegitimate reason to hate on crossfit, but all the people i know who do it are the stereotypical “cult-fitter douche”. They only wear crossfit branded clothing, and are constantly proclaiming it to be the greatest thing to ever happen to the fitness world. As if the results of exercising and a proper diet are some how a revolutionary and only applied to crossfit workouts.

I get the appeal of working out with your friends. But why spend all that money to join a gym, when the equipment could be purchased for the amount of a year membership and just invite your friends over to work out.

I would join a gym strictly to meet the women tho…[/quote]

A lot depends on the mentality of the facility. I do Olympic lifting at a Crossfit facility. The owner is a huge fan of the Olympic lifts and competes regularly (in fact, I noticed he’s gained some weight recently so I think his main focus is Olympic lifting and he does very little CF himself these days). I have an Olympic lifting only membership and am not obligated to join or do any CF. The CF regulars who stay after the WOD to work on Olympic lifting (and weightlifting coaching is included in their membership and extra practice on technique is highly and repeatedly emphasized as being very important) have never suggested to me that I do CF or eat Paleo or anything else. They know I’m there just for Olympic lifting, they’re cool with that, and they leave me alone.

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[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:
I know this is a illegitimate reason to hate on crossfit, but all the people i know who do it are the stereotypical “cult-fitter douche”. They only wear crossfit branded clothing, and are constantly proclaiming it to be the greatest thing to ever happen to the fitness world. As if the results of exercising and a proper diet are some how a revolutionary and only applied to crossfit workouts.

I get the appeal of working out with your friends. But why spend all that money to join a gym, when the equipment could be purchased for the amount of a year membership and just invite your friends over to work out.

I would join a gym strictly to meet the women tho…[/quote]

A lot depends on the mentality of the facility. I do Olympic lifting at a Crossfit facility. The owner is a huge fan of the Olympic lifts and competes regularly (in fact, I noticed he’s gained some weight recently so I think his main focus is Olympic lifting and he does very little CF himself these days). I have an Olympic lifting only membership and am not obligated to join or do any CF. The CF regulars who stay after the WOD to work on Olympic lifting (and weightlifting coaching is included in their membership and extra practice on technique is highly and repeatedly emphasized as being very important) have never suggested to me that I do CF or eat Paleo or anything else. They know I’m there just for Olympic lifting, they’re cool with that, and they leave me alone.
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Sign of the times, distancing themselves from “traditional” xfit…and more emphasis on the oly stuff.

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[quote]Aggv wrote:
I know this is a illegitimate reason to hate on crossfit, but all the people i know who do it are the stereotypical “cult-fitter douche”. They only wear crossfit branded clothing, and are constantly proclaiming it to be the greatest thing to ever happen to the fitness world. As if the results of exercising and a proper diet are some how a revolutionary and only applied to crossfit workouts.

I get the appeal of working out with your friends. But why spend all that money to join a gym, when the equipment could be purchased for the amount of a year membership and just invite your friends over to work out.

I would join a gym strictly to meet the women tho…[/quote]

Don’t let those bad eggs spoil the bunch! I can sort of understand where they are coming from though. Not to get too psycho-analytical but some people just want to “belong” to something. They are finally introduced to the group/community lifestyle of fitness and they just want to show it off. When the start telling you it’s superior is when it starts to become obnoxious.

It’s analogous to practicing martial arts all of your life then suddenly some d-bag starts training “UFC” at a McDojo and walks around wearing tapout shirts telling you how superior MMA is.

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[quote]setto222 wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:
I know this is a illegitimate reason to hate on crossfit, but all the people i know who do it are the stereotypical “cult-fitter douche”. They only wear crossfit branded clothing, and are constantly proclaiming it to be the greatest thing to ever happen to the fitness world. As if the results of exercising and a proper diet are some how a revolutionary and only applied to crossfit workouts.

I get the appeal of working out with your friends. But why spend all that money to join a gym, when the equipment could be purchased for the amount of a year membership and just invite your friends over to work out.

I would join a gym strictly to meet the women tho…[/quote]

Don’t let those bad eggs spoil the bunch! I can sort of understand where they are coming from though. Not to get too psycho-analytical but some people just want to “belong” to something. They are finally introduced to the group/community lifestyle of fitness and they just want to show it off. When the start telling you it’s superior is when it starts to become obnoxious.

It’s analogous to practicing martial arts all of your life then suddenly some d-bag starts training “UFC” at a McDojo and walks around wearing tapout shirts telling you how superior MMA is. [/quote]

Just introduce the annoying Crossfitter to the annoying MMA guy. Then let them argue and hope that they both realize how massively douchey they are being by seeing it reflected in someone else with a different “passion”.

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[quote]Ghall wrote:

[quote]setto222 wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:
I know this is a illegitimate reason to hate on crossfit, but all the people i know who do it are the stereotypical “cult-fitter douche”. They only wear crossfit branded clothing, and are constantly proclaiming it to be the greatest thing to ever happen to the fitness world. As if the results of exercising and a proper diet are some how a revolutionary and only applied to crossfit workouts.

I get the appeal of working out with your friends. But why spend all that money to join a gym, when the equipment could be purchased for the amount of a year membership and just invite your friends over to work out.

I would join a gym strictly to meet the women tho…[/quote]

Don’t let those bad eggs spoil the bunch! I can sort of understand where they are coming from though. Not to get too psycho-analytical but some people just want to “belong” to something. They are finally introduced to the group/community lifestyle of fitness and they just want to show it off. When the start telling you it’s superior is when it starts to become obnoxious.

It’s analogous to practicing martial arts all of your life then suddenly some d-bag starts training “UFC” at a McDojo and walks around wearing tapout shirts telling you how superior MMA is. [/quote]

Just introduce the annoying Crossfitter to the annoying MMA guy. Then let them argue and hope that they both realize how massively douchey they are being by seeing it reflected in someone else with a different “passion”.
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atleast the mma douche can presumable whoop someones ass. They average “cultfit” douche is just a desk jockey who never played sports in high school and they now walk around calling themselves elite, when theyre really not in that great of shape.

As i mentioned earlier, it’s not a legit reason to hate on crossfit. My only serious complaint is the ludicrous price of working in the gyms, which is usually double that of the normal gym and i see no reason. The workouts can be gleaned from the internet for free (aside from paying for internet service)

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[quote]Aggv wrote:
atleast the mma douche can presumable whoop someones ass. They average “cultfit” douche is just a desk jockey who never played sports in high school and they now walk around calling themselves elite, when theyre really not in that great of shape.

As i mentioned earlier, it’s not a legit reason to hate on crossfit. My only serious complaint is the ludicrous price of working in the gyms, which is usually double that of the normal gym and i see no reason. The workouts can be gleaned from the internet for free (aside from paying for internet service)
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They can call themselves whatever the fuck they want so long as they’re keeping healthy and not wasting public health care money (Canadian) on preventable illnesses. CF has its flaws and isn’t for me, but I think it fits the average person’s goals better than the 5-day split pulled from a BBing rag or the cardio-bunny lifting 5lb DBs routine, and keeps them in better shape. It’s not a perfect approach for the average gym-goer, but it is better than most of the crap I see when I go into the “fitness center”.

Yeah, CF has a bit of a cult mentality, but I’ve seen too many BBers, PLers, and Oly lifters who believe that their style of training is the one true way and everybody should be doing it. Though it’s definitely possible to make a good case for it being worse in CrossFit, it’s not right to point the finger at them alone.

The new vocabulary they’ve introduced to the lifters’ lexicon doesn’t help them look less like a cult, IMO. Re-branding existing terms seems like a cheap way to disguise a lack of innovation.

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[quote]Apoklyps wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:
atleast the mma douche can presumable whoop someones ass. They average “cultfit” douche is just a desk jockey who never played sports in high school and they now walk around calling themselves elite, when theyre really not in that great of shape.

As i mentioned earlier, it’s not a legit reason to hate on crossfit. My only serious complaint is the ludicrous price of working in the gyms, which is usually double that of the normal gym and i see no reason. The workouts can be gleaned from the internet for free (aside from paying for internet service)
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They can call themselves whatever the fuck they want so long as they’re keeping healthy and not wasting public health care money (Canadian) on preventable illnesses. CF has its flaws and isn’t for me, but I think it fits the average person’s goals better than the 5-day split pulled from a BBing rag or the cardio-bunny lifting 5lb DBs routine, and keeps them in better shape. It’s not a perfect approach for the average gym-goer, but it is better than most of the crap I see when I go into the “fitness center”.

Yeah, CF has a bit of a cult mentality, but I’ve seen too many BBers, PLers, and Oly lifters who believe that their style of training is the one true way and everybody should be doing it. Though it’s definitely possible to make a good case for it being worse in CrossFit, it’s not right to point the finger at them alone.

The new vocabulary they’ve introduced to the lifters’ lexicon doesn’t help them look less like a cult, IMO. Re-branding existing terms seems like a cheap way to disguise a lack of innovation.[/quote]

I could not agree anymore about getting people into shape who would otherwise be disgusting fatbodies. I’m all for that, and really im only speaking about the people i know who do crossfit. They consider themselves to be some super athlete cause they do the wod, and have a decent fran time with pullup kip that would make a monkey jealous.

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[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]Apoklyps wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:
atleast the mma douche can presumable whoop someones ass. They average “cultfit” douche is just a desk jockey who never played sports in high school and they now walk around calling themselves elite, when theyre really not in that great of shape.

As i mentioned earlier, it’s not a legit reason to hate on crossfit. My only serious complaint is the ludicrous price of working in the gyms, which is usually double that of the normal gym and i see no reason. The workouts can be gleaned from the internet for free (aside from paying for internet service)
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They can call themselves whatever the fuck they want so long as they’re keeping healthy and not wasting public health care money (Canadian) on preventable illnesses. CF has its flaws and isn’t for me, but I think it fits the average person’s goals better than the 5-day split pulled from a BBing rag or the cardio-bunny lifting 5lb DBs routine, and keeps them in better shape. It’s not a perfect approach for the average gym-goer, but it is better than most of the crap I see when I go into the “fitness center”.

Yeah, CF has a bit of a cult mentality, but I’ve seen too many BBers, PLers, and Oly lifters who believe that their style of training is the one true way and everybody should be doing it. Though it’s definitely possible to make a good case for it being worse in CrossFit, it’s not right to point the finger at them alone.

The new vocabulary they’ve introduced to the lifters’ lexicon doesn’t help them look less like a cult, IMO. Re-branding existing terms seems like a cheap way to disguise a lack of innovation.[/quote]

I could not agree anymore about getting people into shape who would otherwise be disgusting fatbodies. I’m all for that, and really im only speaking about the people i know who do crossfit. They consider themselves to be some super athlete cause they do the wod, and have a decent fran time with pullup kip that would make a monkey jealous.
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You know how I handle them when I run across them.

Out work them at their own game.

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[quote]Apoklyps wrote:

Yeah, CF has a bit of a cult mentality, but I’ve seen too many BBers, PLers, and Oly lifters who believe that their style of training is the one true way and everybody should be doing it. Though it’s definitely possible to make a good case for it being worse in CrossFit, it’s not right to point the finger at them alone.

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I mostly know PLers, Strongmen, and Oly lifters. The best ones always do the core lifts, add in some accessory work, and a little cardio… Hmmm, I guess nowadays everyone is a Xfitter.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]Apoklyps wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:
atleast the mma douche can presumable whoop someones ass. They average “cultfit” douche is just a desk jockey who never played sports in high school and they now walk around calling themselves elite, when theyre really not in that great of shape.

As i mentioned earlier, it’s not a legit reason to hate on crossfit. My only serious complaint is the ludicrous price of working in the gyms, which is usually double that of the normal gym and i see no reason. The workouts can be gleaned from the internet for free (aside from paying for internet service)
[/quote]

They can call themselves whatever the fuck they want so long as they’re keeping healthy and not wasting public health care money (Canadian) on preventable illnesses. CF has its flaws and isn’t for me, but I think it fits the average person’s goals better than the 5-day split pulled from a BBing rag or the cardio-bunny lifting 5lb DBs routine, and keeps them in better shape. It’s not a perfect approach for the average gym-goer, but it is better than most of the crap I see when I go into the “fitness center”.

Yeah, CF has a bit of a cult mentality, but I’ve seen too many BBers, PLers, and Oly lifters who believe that their style of training is the one true way and everybody should be doing it. Though it’s definitely possible to make a good case for it being worse in CrossFit, it’s not right to point the finger at them alone.

The new vocabulary they’ve introduced to the lifters’ lexicon doesn’t help them look less like a cult, IMO. Re-branding existing terms seems like a cheap way to disguise a lack of innovation.[/quote]

I could not agree anymore about getting people into shape who would otherwise be disgusting fatbodies. I’m all for that, and really im only speaking about the people i know who do crossfit. They consider themselves to be some super athlete cause they do the wod, and have a decent fran time with pullup kip that would make a monkey jealous.
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You know how I handle them when I run across them.

Out work them at their own game.[/quote]

I’m always asking them to go play some real sport with me, but they always refuse. They rebuttal with wanting to see who can the most pullups, to which i say sure, but none of the kipping crap; then they start talking about something else…

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[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]Apoklyps wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:
atleast the mma douche can presumable whoop someones ass. They average “cultfit” douche is just a desk jockey who never played sports in high school and they now walk around calling themselves elite, when theyre really not in that great of shape.

As i mentioned earlier, it’s not a legit reason to hate on crossfit. My only serious complaint is the ludicrous price of working in the gyms, which is usually double that of the normal gym and i see no reason. The workouts can be gleaned from the internet for free (aside from paying for internet service)
[/quote]

They can call themselves whatever the fuck they want so long as they’re keeping healthy and not wasting public health care money (Canadian) on preventable illnesses. CF has its flaws and isn’t for me, but I think it fits the average person’s goals better than the 5-day split pulled from a BBing rag or the cardio-bunny lifting 5lb DBs routine, and keeps them in better shape. It’s not a perfect approach for the average gym-goer, but it is better than most of the crap I see when I go into the “fitness center”.

Yeah, CF has a bit of a cult mentality, but I’ve seen too many BBers, PLers, and Oly lifters who believe that their style of training is the one true way and everybody should be doing it. Though it’s definitely possible to make a good case for it being worse in CrossFit, it’s not right to point the finger at them alone.

The new vocabulary they’ve introduced to the lifters’ lexicon doesn’t help them look less like a cult, IMO. Re-branding existing terms seems like a cheap way to disguise a lack of innovation.[/quote]

I could not agree anymore about getting people into shape who would otherwise be disgusting fatbodies. I’m all for that, and really im only speaking about the people i know who do crossfit. They consider themselves to be some super athlete cause they do the wod, and have a decent fran time with pullup kip that would make a monkey jealous.
[/quote]

You know how I handle them when I run across them.

Out work them at their own game.[/quote]

I’m always asking them to go play some real sport with me, but they always refuse. They rebuttal with wanting to see who can the most pullups, to which i say sure, but none of the kipping crap; then they start talking about something else…[/quote]
lol

I normally start cleaning heavy or strict press heavy or do the WOD with heavy weights that normally shuts them up. But honestly we do not have very many of those types, there are a couple in the afternoons, but I go in the morning.

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]setto222 wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:
STB likes doing certain Crossfit workouts as his conditioning work after his conjugate training according to his log. Seems like a decent enough thing to do imo.

I admit that my powerlifting buddies and I love making fun of Crossfit. Couch Glassman is the biggest hack ever for one. We poke fun at a lot of their nomenclature as well. Calling their gym a “box” lol. And using phrases like AMRAP and WOD. Also at the general attitude some of the followers have.

That’s all in good fun though. Crossfit isn’t really so bad anymore. They’ve gotten a ton better about people’s form on oly lifts thank God. It’s cool how they’re bringing more exposure to the good ol’ barbell and bringing in tons of money and attention.[/quote]

lol i’d go as far to say that coaches and owners moving further away from Glassman’s ideology is one of the main reasons Crossfit is becoming more and more respected. [/quote]

This…but my buddies still pay their affiliate fees, and the CF games are the best marketing force in many years for the affiliates.

Glasshole has trolled everybody, him, Castro and Budding are sitting around drinking Bombay Saphire…groping andro babes and lighting cigars with Reebok $100 bills.

He has trolled EVERYBODY.[/quote]

Glassman franchised the life out of Crossfit. ‘Fetus of Croton’ really turned me off it. No way it’s ever going to be a sport in its own right while Reebok are exclusive sponsors.

Dan John has closer professional links with Gym Jones.

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Relevant bump:

Today’s article by Dan Trink, “4 Things I’ve Stolen from Crossfit”, discusses a few useful bits he’s pulled from Crossfit-type programming.

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Good bump. I’m currently involved in the Live-Spill. Would like to know people’s opinions on higher rep Oly lifts.

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[quote]setto222 wrote:
Good bump. I’m currently involved in the Live-Spill. Would like to know people’s opinions on higher rep Oly lifts. [/quote]
I personally have no problem with them, but I competed in the sport and consider myself pretty damn efficient at the lifts. That’s not most people though, most people suck at the lifts and have no business going beyond 3 reps.

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[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]setto222 wrote:
Good bump. I’m currently involved in the Live-Spill. Would like to know people’s opinions on higher rep Oly lifts. [/quote]
I personally have no problem with them, but I competed in the sport and consider myself pretty damn efficient at the lifts. That’s not most people though, most people suck at the lifts and have no business going beyond 3 reps.[/quote]

A Crossfit person should go through theses steps, not skip to the next until the one you are on is mastered.

  1. Learn to lift properly
  2. Make technique automatic
  3. Make technique solid even in a slightly fatgued state (complexes)
  4. Learn to maintain solid technique with higher reps
  5. Develop the capacity to do technically correct, high-reps O-lifts as part of an intense WOD