As a liberal with the tard attached due to my prior above statement, tea is just extra fancy coffee.
Flip it upside down then cut off the top
For some reason I really like your revolutional approach! I would love to see you presenting your take on this to the professor in charge of the new edition of the food pyramid… ![]()
On the topic of appearances and impressions, my hot take is that dress clothes and makeup are useless.
As long as the person and clothing are clean, effort/money/discomfort put into wearing “nice” stuff or “dressing up is a waste that only exists because of dumb social norms
It should be perfectly acceptable to wear clean T-shirts and sweatpants anywhere.
It’s a matter of respect and status. A restaurant or workplace has a dress code to maintain it’s status as a high-end eatery/company for high end folks. You dress well and put on makeup for an interview or big meeting to convey that you are successful and respect the people/job enough to put effort into your appearance… Just as you will put effort into their job. In general, appearance plays a big role in initial impressions, and initial impressions linger.
You can get away with a relatively sloppy/sloven appearance, but only if you’re talent/skills are so above average that they make up for it.
It’s all marketing/sales. Whether professionally, or personally.
This is why I’m saying that it’s a dumb social convention.
There should be less noisy and inefficient signals of respect and ability.
The idea that a clean tshirt and sweatpants are “sloven” is a dumb social construction IMO. In the past, men regularly wore tights, and in some culture, dresses/skirts. Arguably, ancient Chinese robes are more similar to bathrobes than suits
on the flip sides, corsets were considered “proper dress”. They are literally dangerous
I am well aware.
It also helps to identify folks with antisocial tendencies - if they can’t follow social norms for dress, what other social norms do they not follow?
Define anti social clothing
All clothing is a “social construction” if you want to look at it that way.
The Red Hot Chili Peppers were well known for performing in socks, but not on their feet. Is a schlong sock a social construction, same as a business suit?
In a professional setting, I would call it clothing that goes out of its way to draw attention to you, as opposed to fitting in.
I’m actually in agreement with NotYou for once.
Clothing signals all sorts of things, particularly for females, and I think it’s fantastic. I can dress in certain ways to elicit certain responses from people for fun, conformity, anti-conformity, or gain. I can signal intimacy or trust - there are things I wear only with certain people, and they know it.
That’s a good way to put it- appearance and clothing are nonverbal communicators.
I understand that’s how it is
But I dislike it very much
I know. Do you know how to play the game, though? Do you have all-purpose outfits that work socially?
You mean the George Costanza I’ve given up look?
yep. I have comfortable outfits that count as “business casual” and a set for more formal occasions that I thankfully haven’t had to wear yet.
I probably need dress pants though because my quads outgrew my current ones. As my friend said, I’m “oddly shaped”
Why do they need to be “clean?” What does that even mean? Seems like a dumb social norm.
because poor hygiene has negative health implications
So does poor fashion sense.
“Implications?” Clothing can be stained AND sanitary, so why are we supposed to worry about wearing clean clothes?
Wearing sweatpants and a t-shirt to work(restaurants, clubs, etc.) also has implications.
You have discovered how social norms arise.
