A Completely Random Thread of Randomness

As a liberal with the tard attached due to my prior above statement, tea is just extra fancy coffee.

Flip it upside down then cut off the top

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For some reason I really like your revolutional approach! I would love to see you presenting your take on this to the professor in charge of the new edition of the food pyramid… :laughing:

On the topic of appearances and impressions, my hot take is that dress clothes and makeup are useless.

As long as the person and clothing are clean, effort/money/discomfort put into wearing “nice” stuff or “dressing up is a waste that only exists because of dumb social norms

It should be perfectly acceptable to wear clean T-shirts and sweatpants anywhere.

It’s a matter of respect and status. A restaurant or workplace has a dress code to maintain it’s status as a high-end eatery/company for high end folks. You dress well and put on makeup for an interview or big meeting to convey that you are successful and respect the people/job enough to put effort into your appearance… Just as you will put effort into their job. In general, appearance plays a big role in initial impressions, and initial impressions linger.

You can get away with a relatively sloppy/sloven appearance, but only if you’re talent/skills are so above average that they make up for it.

It’s all marketing/sales. Whether professionally, or personally.

This is why I’m saying that it’s a dumb social convention.

There should be less noisy and inefficient signals of respect and ability.

The idea that a clean tshirt and sweatpants are “sloven” is a dumb social construction IMO. In the past, men regularly wore tights, and in some culture, dresses/skirts. Arguably, ancient Chinese robes are more similar to bathrobes than suits

on the flip sides, corsets were considered “proper dress”. They are literally dangerous

I am well aware.

It also helps to identify folks with antisocial tendencies - if they can’t follow social norms for dress, what other social norms do they not follow?

Define anti social clothing

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All clothing is a “social construction” if you want to look at it that way.

The Red Hot Chili Peppers were well known for performing in socks, but not on their feet. Is a schlong sock a social construction, same as a business suit?

In a professional setting, I would call it clothing that goes out of its way to draw attention to you, as opposed to fitting in.

I’m actually in agreement with NotYou for once.

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Clothing signals all sorts of things, particularly for females, and I think it’s fantastic. I can dress in certain ways to elicit certain responses from people for fun, conformity, anti-conformity, or gain. I can signal intimacy or trust - there are things I wear only with certain people, and they know it.

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That’s a good way to put it- appearance and clothing are nonverbal communicators.

I understand that’s how it is

But I dislike it very much

I know. Do you know how to play the game, though? Do you have all-purpose outfits that work socially?

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You mean the George Costanza I’ve given up look?

yep. I have comfortable outfits that count as “business casual” and a set for more formal occasions that I thankfully haven’t had to wear yet.

I probably need dress pants though because my quads outgrew my current ones. As my friend said, I’m “oddly shaped”

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Why do they need to be “clean?” What does that even mean? Seems like a dumb social norm.

because poor hygiene has negative health implications

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So does poor fashion sense.

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“Implications?” Clothing can be stained AND sanitary, so why are we supposed to worry about wearing clean clothes?

Wearing sweatpants and a t-shirt to work(restaurants, clubs, etc.) also has implications.

You have discovered how social norms arise.