650 DL @ 200Ibs Drug Free

who gives a fuck if its a hitch, hes still a strong ass dude. Good job man, just keep pushing your limits.

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]kpsnap wrote:
It’s sort of like squatting a whole lotta weight but not hitting depth. Impressive, but not totally legit.[/quote]

Hmm… I never thought of it like that. I give 0 credit to half squatters, even if it’s fucking 800lbs or something. I don’t know why, but hitching just doesn’t seem the same to me. Maybe it’s because hitching is allowed in some strongman stuff, or because you’re still going through the full range of motion. I dunno, for whatever reason hitching doesn’t bother me at all like a high squat would. I guess I can see now how some people might have that perspective though.[/quote]

I agree with your logic, and i thinks its because he’s still using all he has to lift the weight off the ground, and to where a strict dead lift would end. Unlike half squatting, where you aren’t actually have to go below parallel to ā€œcompleteā€ that rep.

[quote]rehanb_bl wrote:

[quote]dalle wrote:

Year but i think it is a shame all sports are so messed up from drugs and we as specators would rather watch the most weightlifted regardless of drug usage. It is a shame we are too greedy, and you dont stand a chance anymore in some sports if you are not willing to take drugs. Long story short we as humans will always sacrifice dignity to strive for ā€œmoreā€ .[/quote]

I disagree
define ā€œdignityā€
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In this context you have dignity imo if you dont cheat ( roid usage) and yes it is considered cheating in all feds even tough some are properly aware :frowning: long life ipf even tough they could do more. And if you support drug free lifting and dont let you personal greed for satisfaction ( biggest weihgt lifted) take over. Imo many people sacrifice their dignity and try to be badass when deep inside they are ā€œcheatersā€ with needles in their arms. These are my opinions

I just don’t feel that anyone is losing there dignity by taking PEDs. I’m probably gonna catch some shit for this statement but… most ā€œdrug freeā€ guys are still on supplements and all other kinds of things along those lines in order to recover faster and be stronger. I understand there is a huge difference in the effectiveness and risks between the two but, where is the line to be drawn. At the end of the day throwing down mass amounts of Protein Powder, creatine, bcaa, and a thousand other supplements.

All of these have side effects obviously less than most PEDs but none the less. So why would one lose degnity if taking taking testostorne or what ever your drug of choice but the Guy who takes all the other legal supps wouldnt? Honestly at the end of day other than the risk to reward ratio is highly differently they are all the same. This arguement could go on and on and I’m sure numerous people disagree but many will agree so really no point in arguing just something to think about I guess on both our parts.

Great lift, you look like the perfect build. Strong as fuck, but still athletic. I am glad you put Drug Free in the title, so lifters like myself that are also drug free can watch and relate to the video. You really must be on some strong roids if you get pissed off at the very mention that someone doesnt use. Do whatever you want, live and let live. That include both sides!

If you think steroids are great and you like seeing people push the limit, then great, want a fuckin cookie? Go to a different video, but also realize that others actually do care about seeing natural lifters. You guys are as stupid as the natural guys going on Ronnie Coleman videos and bashing him for using.

[quote]Reed wrote:

I just don’t feel that anyone is losing there dignity by taking PEDs. I’m probably gonna catch some shit for this statement but… most ā€œdrug freeā€ guys are still on supplements and all other kinds of things along those lines in order to recover faster and be stronger. I understand there is a huge difference in the effectiveness and risks between the two but, where is the line to be drawn. At the end of the day throwing down mass amounts of Protein Powder, creatine, bcaa, and a thousand other supplements.

All of these have side effects obviously less than most PEDs but none the less. So why would one lose degnity if taking taking testostorne or what ever your drug of choice but the Guy who takes all the other legal supps wouldnt? Honestly at the end of day other than the risk to reward ratio is highly differently they are all the same. This arguement could go on and on and I’m sure numerous people disagree but many will agree so really no point in arguing just something to think about I guess on both our parts.
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I will agree on the things you say cause those things are also supplements and maybe also have consequences but I think the line has to be drawn by the federations in which one compete whether powerlifting or football and the rules of anti doping in the country. If you compete in a drug tested competition and your on roids you let down/betray your competitors. I know that i personaly wonƃ?“t stand a chance in high level powerlifting against people on roids , and i am not willing to sell my ā€œsoulā€, i think its very sad for many drugfree lifters that they can only compete against themselves

Dalle- I completely agree. Minus the selling my soul part lol.
Tree trynks- not sure if that was directed at me but I am and in no way was up set and apologize if I come across that way. I was just stating my opinion just as everyone else including yourself has done.

That’s my point exactly

Where do we draw the line saying this is bad/illegal and this is not?

Coffee is a strong PED but it’s fine, so are corticosteroids, beta blockers, BCAA’s, caffeine pills, creatine, painkillers. What makes AAS so inherently different?

If everyone was allowed AAS how would it not be a fair contest since everyone has the same ā€œfieldā€ at their disposal

Could care less about the drug(s) or drug-free. Its not my body.

Wicked power and strength though.

Awesome job man.

[quote]Reed wrote:
Tree trynks- not sure if that was directed at me but I am and in no way was up set and apologize if I come across that way. I was just stating my opinion just as everyone else including yourself has done. [/quote]

I wasnt talking about anyone in particular, I just read a series of comments that were negative without looking at the username. I agree that we all are entitled to our opinions, however, that doesnt make them acceptable. However, you sound like a nice person and I reiterate that I was not responding to any individual. My point is we need to be more positive, because we are all in the iron game for the same reason, to be strong as a fuckin bull! I hate seeing people mock bodybuilding videos with Yates and Coleman, and I hate seeing a guy like the poster here receive the same type of negative response for the opposite reasons.

I find it to be less of an issue of opinion, and more so one of respect. If you use a needle, I acknowledge that is your choice, and I respect that. If you are drug free, by all means posting a video stating that makes complete sense, and also deserves respect.

[quote]@JC_Tree_Trunks wrote:

[quote]Reed wrote:
Tree trynks- not sure if that was directed at me but I am and in no way was up set and apologize if I come across that way. I was just stating my opinion just as everyone else including yourself has done. [/quote]

I wasnt talking about anyone in particular, I just read a series of comments that were negative without looking at the username. I agree that we all are entitled to our opinions, however, that doesnt make them acceptable. However, you sound like a nice person and I reiterate that I was not responding to any individual. My point is we need to be more positive, because we are all in the iron game for the same reason, to be strong as a fuckin bull! I hate seeing people mock bodybuilding videos with Yates and Coleman, and I hate seeing a guy like the poster here receive the same type of negative response for the opposite reasons.

I find it to be less of an issue of opinion, and more so one of respect. If you use a needle, I acknowledge that is your choice, and I respect that. If you are drug free, by all means posting a video stating that makes complete sense, and also deserves respect. [/quote]

I agree 110%.

[quote]dalle wrote:

and yes it is considered cheating in all feds even tough some are properly aware
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Sweet, I’ve been looking for more dumbasses to add to my ignore list recently…bingo!

VT- hahaha I enjoyed that.

Are people honestly treating a training lift like it’s a competition lift?

What the fuck has happened to this forum?

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]burt128 wrote:
I can’t understand how people think that’s a nice pull. OP is clearly strong, but that’s a garbage lift.[/quote]

Is it? So what if there’s a hitch? He’s not in a goddamn meet. I know you’re one strong dude, but could you even do 650 with any amount of hitching? I fucking couldn’t.[/quote]

I can and I have.

[quote]drew2143 wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]burt128 wrote:
I can’t understand how people think that’s a nice pull. OP is clearly strong, but that’s a garbage lift.[/quote]

Is it? So what if there’s a hitch? He’s not in a goddamn meet. I know you’re one strong dude, but could you even do 650 with any amount of hitching? I fucking couldn’t.[/quote]

I can and I have.[/quote]

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This thread is also gone to half retard, I wonder if it will go full retard

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]drew2143 wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]burt128 wrote:
I can’t understand how people think that’s a nice pull. OP is clearly strong, but that’s a garbage lift.[/quote]

Is it? So what if there’s a hitch? He’s not in a goddamn meet. I know you’re one strong dude, but could you even do 650 with any amount of hitching? I fucking couldn’t.[/quote]

I can and I have.[/quote]

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This thread is also gone to half retard, I wonder if it will go full retard[/quote]

Nobody asked either of you, because you two weren’t bitching about a hitched gym lift. I’m not sure what point either of you is wanting to make.

Well this escalated quickly…

Call me maybe?

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

[quote]dalle wrote:

and yes it is considered cheating in all feds even tough some are properly aware
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Sweet, I’ve been looking for more dumbasses to add to my ignore list recently…bingo![/quote]

Fine macho smartass now go take your ā€œpillsā€