5 Reasons You Don't Look Like a BB'er

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
While I guess this can be viewed as either a serious, or yet another BS thread (I know it started out in a humorous fashion), I’ll toss in my comments just so as I don’t feel left out :slight_smile:

(why you don’t look like a bodybuilder:)

-You worry more about what magical supplements the current top guys in the ads claim they are taking, and yet have no clue as to if you’re getting adequate protein and calories.

-You can spout off some of the latest ‘cutting edge’ training concepts word for word from Flex magazine, yet have no clue as to the science behind the purported theories in the first place, or even why they may or may not work for an individual.

-You refuse to stop doing a ‘sacred’ exercise after years and years of doing it even though you have not made any gains from it, and possibly even suffered injuries because of it.

-You have no concept of what all-out, gut busting-I may not get this last rep effort truly is.

-If an approach or training method works for someone but not for someone else, you chalk it up to doing it wrong.

-When another trainer looks better than you, it as always because of genetics or steroids, never hard work, consistency or intelligent application of training and nutritional methods.

(and now, 1 funny one…)
-You don’t train while wearing work boots, sunglasses and a string tank top.

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you should see some of the morons that come in to train in the flip flops, jeans and wife beaters and think they’re hardcore. then when a serious dude is training, the only thing they can think of is “oh that guy is a juicer”, makes me laugh every time I see them while i work. but i guess you have different types of people and morons everywhere you go, so i just see it as entertainment while i work.

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
I’ve been getting pretty big lately, almost at a 405 bench and the guns are close to 19s. I’ll be adding some pics too, almost 2 inches of arm growth in 1.5 years and I got a 50 inch chest as well 28 inch quads at there biggest point and I won’t mention the claves. Haha. [/quote]

This is sadly a mistake on your part. You confused simply getting bigger with being a bodybuilder, you confused mass with muscle.

Yes, you are a big lad… but your ‘19" guns’ are flabby and soft, with little shape of anyone who lifts at all.

This can assist you in the future, if you manage to one day build muscle without a 3:1 ratio of fat accompanying it.

Don’t make the common mistake of using the fact that numbers on a screen can be used in a manner which makes your physique appear significantly better than it is; ie. 19" ‘guns’ and a 50" chest sounds very impressive, but when you actually see your picture (assuming your avatar is recent) it becomes clear you are just a big lad in general, not someone with a bodybuilder type of physique.

Sure, you have progressed, but don’t think you are something you are not - you should be proud to have progressed if you think you have.
But to assume that because you have 19" arms that they are better than everyone else’s at 17" or 18" would be a mistake.

[quote] Brook wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
I’ve been getting pretty big lately, almost at a 405 bench and the guns are close to 19s. I’ll be adding some pics too, almost 2 inches of arm growth in 1.5 years and I got a 50 inch chest as well 28 inch quads at there biggest point and I won’t mention the claves. Haha.

This is sadly a mistake on your part. You confused simply getting bigger with being a bodybuilder, you confused mass with muscle.

Yes, you are a big lad… but your ‘19" guns’ are flabby and soft, with little shape of anyone who lifts at all.

This can assist you in the future, if you manage to one day build muscle without a 3:1 ratio of fat accompanying it.

Don’t make the common mistake of using the fact that numbers on a screen can be used in a manner which makes your physique appear significantly better than it is; ie. 19" ‘guns’ and a 50" chest sounds very impressive, but when you actually see your picture (assuming your avatar is recent) it becomes clear you are just a big lad in general, not someone with a bodybuilder type of physique.

Sure, you have progressed, but don’t think you are something you are not - you should be proud to have progressed if you think you have.
But to assume that because you have 19" arms that they are better than everyone else’s at 17" or 18" would be a mistake.
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good post

[quote] Brook wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
I’ve been getting pretty big lately, almost at a 405 bench and the guns are close to 19s. I’ll be adding some pics too, almost 2 inches of arm growth in 1.5 years and I got a 50 inch chest as well 28 inch quads at there biggest point and I won’t mention the claves. Haha.

This is sadly a mistake on your part. You confused simply getting bigger with being a bodybuilder, you confused mass with muscle.

Yes, you are a big lad… but your ‘19" guns’ are flabby and soft, with little shape of anyone who lifts at all.

This can assist you in the future, if you manage to one day build muscle without a 3:1 ratio of fat accompanying it.

Don’t make the common mistake of using the fact that numbers on a screen can be used in a manner which makes your physique appear significantly better than it is; ie. 19" ‘guns’ and a 50" chest sounds very impressive, but when you actually see your picture (assuming your avatar is recent) it becomes clear you are just a big lad in general, not someone with a bodybuilder type of physique.

Sure, you have progressed, but don’t think you are something you are not - you should be proud to have progressed if you think you have.
But to assume that because you have 19" arms that they are better than everyone else’s at 17" or 18" would be a mistake.
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I thought most bobybuilders gave off season measurements?

Never claimed to be a bodybuilder yet I still bodybuild…

You’re not a bodybuilder until you compete anyways…

I have better pictures but since I don’t seem to post here much anymore and probably will stop anyways I don’t see the point. I could add you to my Facebook, but I’d be reluctant anyways. Plus a relaxed pose while I’m holding the camera is not going to show much anyways (my avatar).

I remember when you first came to this site and were using anabolics when your bench was around 225 and you weren’t making progress…I’m not here for personal insult though.

Anyways I’ll probably venture back here in 4-5 years or so just for an I told you so, but then again by that point I wouldn’t even waste my time. The people who know what I’m made of, know, and whether or not I impress anyone on here will not change a thing for me lol.

Well best of luck to you all.

I don’t really like what you’ve written there…the “not for personal insult though”…then why mention it?

BUT!!!

Your avatar over at IM . . if that is you…is a lot more impressive and representative of your physique.

[quote]Clown Face wrote:
I don’t really like what you’ve written there…the “not for personal insult though”…then why mention it?[/quote]

X2

You clearly were trying to be insulting.

And then you said best of luck, lol.

Brook made some very vaild points IMO.

[quote]Chi-Towns-Finest wrote:
Clown Face wrote:
I don’t really like what you’ve written there…the “not for personal insult though”…then why mention it?

X2

You clearly were trying to be insulting.

And then you said best of luck, lol.

Brook made some very vaild points IMO.
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Brook wasn’t exactly trying to be civil and imo the points aren’t that great at all, Austin’s making great progress and Brook’s trying to tear him down. 100% lean gains are the opposite of what is usually preached on this website, so why the sudden turnabout?

Yea, this guy is the king of contradicting himself, trying to dish out criticism and then cover it up with “best of luck” lines. This thread is done, everyone should just go about there business of making gains, were a community that’s here to help one another, not rip 'em down.

[quote]The other Rob wrote:
Chi-Towns-Finest wrote:
Clown Face wrote:
I don’t really like what you’ve written there…the “not for personal insult though”…then why mention it?

X2

You clearly were trying to be insulting.

And then you said best of luck, lol.

Brook made some very vaild points IMO.

Brook wasn’t exactly trying to be civil and imo the points aren’t that great at all, Austin’s making great progress and Brook’s trying to tear him down. 100% lean gains are the opposite of what is usually preached on this website, so why the sudden turnabout?[/quote]

EDIT:
Just to be clear I am not trying to put down AB or anyone for that matter. AB’s clearly a very strong kid; I have not seen any nineteen year olds where I’m from with those numbers.

I did notice that Brook’s tone wasn’t the friendliest, although I agree with his sentiment of building muscle with a 3:1 ratio of fat accompanying it.

And also the statement that measurements can sound impressive regardless of body comp.

Just sayin’

[quote]Chi-Towns-Finest wrote:
The other Rob wrote:
Chi-Towns-Finest wrote:
Clown Face wrote:
I don’t really like what you’ve written there…the “not for personal insult though”…then why mention it?

X2

You clearly were trying to be insulting.

And then you said best of luck, lol.

Brook made some very vaild points IMO.

Brook wasn’t exactly trying to be civil and imo the points aren’t that great at all, Austin’s making great progress and Brook’s trying to tear him down. 100% lean gains are the opposite of what is usually preached on this website, so why the sudden turnabout?

I see what you are saying, AB’s made a lot of progress and is clearly very strong although I agree with Brook’s sentiment of building muscle with a 3:1 ratio of fat accompanying it.

And also the fact that measurements can sound impressive regardless of body comp.

Just sayin’[/quote]

You don’t have a proper picture of the guy to guess his body comp and the claim of 3:1 fat to muscle is just ridiculous. The guy is closing on a 400lb bench so I guess he has some idea of what he’s doing. I’m not trying to attack you, but I think Brook is a mile off with his 3:1 guesstimate.

[quote]The other Rob wrote:
Chi-Towns-Finest wrote:
The other Rob wrote:
Chi-Towns-Finest wrote:
Clown Face wrote:
I don’t really like what you’ve written there…the “not for personal insult though”…then why mention it?

X2

You clearly were trying to be insulting.

And then you said best of luck, lol.

Brook made some very vaild points IMO.

Brook wasn’t exactly trying to be civil and imo the points aren’t that great at all, Austin’s making great progress and Brook’s trying to tear him down. 100% lean gains are the opposite of what is usually preached on this website, so why the sudden turnabout?

I see what you are saying, AB’s made a lot of progress and is clearly very strong although I agree with Brook’s sentiment of building muscle with a 3:1 ratio of fat accompanying it.

And also the fact that measurements can sound impressive regardless of body comp.

Just sayin’

You don’t have a proper picture of the guy to guess his body comp and the claim of 3:1 fat to muscle is just ridiculous. The guy is closing on a 400lb bench so I guess he has some idea of what he’s doing. I’m not trying to attack you, but I think Brook is a mile off with his 3:1 guesstimate.[/quote]

I acknowledge your point, I’m not trying to attack anyone either – I had a similar reaction to AB posting his stats. It came off as arrogance to me. I have seen pictures of AB before and was just saying I agree with some of the comments that Brook made.

Brooks points weren’t about 100% lean gains and anti gaining fat during gaining muscle at thefastest rate.

It was simply against thinking you’re better and have a more muscular arm by having a larger circumferenced arm regardless of bodycomposition.

Man whats wrong with pulldowns?

everything!

[quote]Clown Face wrote:
everything!

this has happened to me, didn’t lock my legs in right and the weight pulled me up. it was awesome.

I’m going to contradict myself one more time, but I’m not going to sit around having my hard work be considered “flab.”

There’s all the flab my arm is carrying, and surprisinly I can curl 185 x 1 with a slight cheat, but I guess fat moves the weight.

Whatever, and no I’m not bragging, cause that will be the next insult.

Again, everyone be good.

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
I’m going to disagree with the statement regarding bodybuilders switching to machines for safety reasons which implies bodybuilders don’t do the big three.

Now I do agree that every pro bodybuilder uses machines but I’ve seen many of the “greats” training videos and all the guys like Flex, Ronnie, Levrone, Ray, Priest, Cutler, Jackson, Warren etc do heavy ass benches, most do squats and free weights are the staples in each of there routines.

Many would do 500 benches and 405 inclines for reps right before a contest (Levrone in Maryland Muscle Machine M3). Chris Corimier comes to mind with some strong ass lifts in the big 3. I can keep going on and on but I figure that’d be enough for now.

Edit: I’m bringing this up as well because you said they “HAVE” to switch to machines which seems to be not the case at all for most. [/quote]

Just wanted to jump in. You have to remember though, once they have a promotional video that comes into play. Bodybuilders most likely will go a lot heavier and use exercises that will allow them to showcase this better to create more “shock and awe”. Not saying they don’t train heavy most the time. Yet lets be real. If most trained as hard as they do in those videos day in day out, especially close to competition. They would be risking the chance of accumulating huge injures along the way.

[quote]Dante wrote:
Do you know what I would do if I was in that position and was asked to be in the most bought video in bodybuilding? I would say “screw those intensemuscle guys, multiple of thousands of people are going to be watching this, Im going to do everything in my power to use the heaviest weights on the heaviest exercises I can” and I would do just that for ego sake. You better believe I would be switching my logbook around to using some of my heaviest exercises on that bodypart day and I would be taking my sweet ass time between rest pauses if I could get away with it just so you guys would be hee hawing all over message boards saying “Fuck that Dante guy uses some big ass weights”…and Im not 100% positive but I do know what exercises Dave is extremely powerful on and guess what showed up in that video (so IM guessing Dave made sure those exercises were switched over to that workout day)

You guys that I train, what do i always tell you to do 2-3 weeks out from a show? What is Dave there 14 days out? I guess Ill answer…I always tell them to not get hurt, maybe even straight set all the way in from 2-3 weeks out, maybe add another exercise per bodypart but most of all feel your way thru the last couple weeks and dont push the envelope so you dont tear anything.
So let me ask you the reader something—your 2 weeks out from a show, youve been asked to do a Road to the Olympia video and just like we all know Ronnie aint doing 800lb deadlifts and 800lb squats every back and leg workout, nevertheless you want to make a good showing to the multiple of thousands of guys who are going to see that video. Are you going to say “oh well the intensemuscle guys are going to go bonkers if I dont follow the DC training mantra by the book” or are you going to present yourself in the best light with your heaviest exercises you can use 2 weeks out from a show but still in the DC training vein of thought (which he did). Again this isnt a “DC training by Dave Henry” video. I know you guys want some kind of ideal here but cmon you are getting a little bit crazy about this stuff. I saw Daves workouts for well over a year, I know exactly how Homon lifts…the proper things are getting done at the proper times.[/quote]

I mean everything is purely individual. Yet you can’t deny machines play a beneficial role in a lot of peoples routines.

[quote]Carlitosway wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
I’m going to disagree with the statement regarding bodybuilders switching to machines for safety reasons which implies bodybuilders don’t do the big three.

Now I do agree that every pro bodybuilder uses machines but I’ve seen many of the “greats” training videos and all the guys like Flex, Ronnie, Levrone, Ray, Priest, Cutler, Jackson, Warren etc do heavy ass benches, most do squats and free weights are the staples in each of there routines.

Many would do 500 benches and 405 inclines for reps right before a contest (Levrone in Maryland Muscle Machine M3). Chris Corimier comes to mind with some strong ass lifts in the big 3. I can keep going on and on but I figure that’d be enough for now.

Edit: I’m bringing this up as well because you said they “HAVE” to switch to machines which seems to be not the case at all for most.

Just wanted to jump in. You have to remember though, once they have a promotional video that comes into play. Bodybuilders most likely will go a lot heavier and use exercises that will allow them to showcase this better to create more “shock and awe”. Not saying they don’t train heavy most the time. Yet lets be real. If most trained as hard as they do in those videos day in day out, especially close to competition. They would be risking the chance of accumulating huge injures along the way.

Dante wrote:
Do you know what I would do if I was in that position and was asked to be in the most bought video in bodybuilding? I would say “screw those intensemuscle guys, multiple of thousands of people are going to be watching this, Im going to do everything in my power to use the heaviest weights on the heaviest exercises I can” and I would do just that for ego sake. You better believe I would be switching my logbook around to using some of my heaviest exercises on that bodypart day and I would be taking my sweet ass time between rest pauses if I could get away with it just so you guys would be hee hawing all over message boards saying “Fuck that Dante guy uses some big ass weights”…and Im not 100% positive but I do know what exercises Dave is extremely powerful on and guess what showed up in that video (so IM guessing Dave made sure those exercises were switched over to that workout day)

You guys that I train, what do i always tell you to do 2-3 weeks out from a show? What is Dave there 14 days out? I guess Ill answer…I always tell them to not get hurt, maybe even straight set all the way in from 2-3 weeks out, maybe add another exercise per bodypart but most of all feel your way thru the last couple weeks and dont push the envelope so you dont tear anything.
So let me ask you the reader something—your 2 weeks out from a show, youve been asked to do a Road to the Olympia video and just like we all know Ronnie aint doing 800lb deadlifts and 800lb squats every back and leg workout, nevertheless you want to make a good showing to the multiple of thousands of guys who are going to see that video. Are you going to say “oh well the intensemuscle guys are going to go bonkers if I dont follow the DC training mantra by the book” or are you going to present yourself in the best light with your heaviest exercises you can use 2 weeks out from a show but still in the DC training vein of thought (which he did). Again this isnt a “DC training by Dave Henry” video. I know you guys want some kind of ideal here but cmon you are getting a little bit crazy about this stuff. I saw Daves workouts for well over a year, I know exactly how Homon lifts…the proper things are getting done at the proper times.

I mean everything is purely individual. Yet you can’t deny machines play a beneficial role in a lot of peoples routines.[/quote]

Great Post.

Professor “keep fuc*in’ that chicken” X

  1. You don’t have a burning desire to be a bodybuilder. Now, I am not pointing fingers. I will never be a bodybuilder, because I don’t have a deep, deep desire burning in my soul to be a bodybuilder. For anyone to achieve a high level or performance in anything - whether bodybuilding, writing, standup comedy, or chemistry they need a burning desire to excel. The type of desires that keeps pushing them through setbacks. The type of desire that continues over years and years. They type of desire that never let’s the naysayers push them down, but also that listens when others speak. If this type of drive is not there, then forget it. You might be able to improve your health and look better, but you will never be a top-shelf bodybuilder.

  2. A lack of genetics. Let’s face it, not everyone can be the best. However, until someone has #7 and has pushed themselves for years (or decades) and put in thousands of hours of works, they have no way of knowing.

  3. Pride. Often people don’t achieve because they think they have all the answers. They don’t listen and learn from others. It would perhaps be appropriate to combine pride with a lack of wisdom.

I believe these three things are key to success in whatever avenue one pursues.