5 Reasons You Don't Look Like a BB'er

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[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
WestCoast7 wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
WestCoast7 wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
No I posted stats because of something prof X stated and I was just showing that I’ve been making progress and my stats are just indications because anyone around here for awhile knows the general size/strength I sit at.

You would be a fool to say that age is something I fall back on. Sorry but you’ll obviously be bigger than me if you’ve trained for 3-4 times as long as me lol.

I just don’t know why any debate Cant be civilized but instead turns to personal insult and to tell you the truth I’ll take a proffesionals opinion over yours. Would you like it if say Ronnie or Jay posted on this site, which neither of you have physiques comparable to and then completely disrespected your beliefs and opinions because you weren’t as big as them.

Any decent person would be more than happy to be friendly and be open to discussion rather han have there periferals on only taking one stance. I’ve agreed and disagreed to something you posted. Discuss why I’m wrong rather than your one sided opinion.

I have buds bigger and stronger than mr that would agree with my statements. Fucking rude and disgusting to disrespect someomes opinion, someone that takes lifting seriously for that matter yet is not advanced as some of the big boys and than feed them with bullshit because hey there’s only one way to do it and your wrong.

This is a bodybuilding site, not a place to dominate threads with child like arguments. Respect the people that are stronger and wiser, and learn from them.

Since when is nobody aloud to have an opinion and since when do you dictate what is or is not a childish argument.

When you decided to hijack a thread (however pointless of a thread it may be) and rant and complain about your thoughts, in addition to being served repeatedly by wiser, stronger members of this community. I’m sure you are strong, but pulling out stat lines in an argument is a glaring sign of insecurity, not to mention asking to be shown up.

If you have questions, comments, or concerns, why not start a thread of your own? I’m not taking sides. I would just prefer if people in this community stayed away from battles of insecurity, and focused their energy on “the intelligent and relentless pursuit of muscle”. Especially people like you who challenge much more respected members of this community.

thank you Dr. Phil but I’m a very secure individual.

How about you stop being a hypocrite then, and contributing more “useless” things, as well as listening to someone stronger and wiser, ie. me, because I did venture into your profile and saw your stats and they were nothing.

Not being rude just asking you to follow your own advices. [/quote]

And the insecurity seeps through again, along with more failed attempts at asserting your dominance.

Anybody who writes, “as well as listening to someone stronger and wiser, ie. me, because I did venture into your profile and saw your stats and they were nothing” is definitely not comfortable with where they are at, or else they wouldn’t have to resort to such statements.

Focus on figuring yourself out before you try to start dishing out information to the rest of this community. Once you do that you might even be able to make a friend or two, and then you won’t have to resort to using gym mirrors to help you take pictures.

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[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
Professor X wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
Ok I grasp what you are saying, but I still don’t find it valid that a spotter is the cause of “many” people ditching free weights. What do powerlifters do, move to machine bench until the day of their competition because they didn’t have a spot. Powerlifting probably has more participants than bodybuilding if not relatively close to the amount. That’s a pretty decent amount of people.

I’m not trying to make some huge debate just rather voiceing my opinion and try to discuss why it’s correct while steering clear of insult and invalid points.

I hope there are no hard feeling here because I’m not some prick but I don’t enjoy words being put into my mout and assumptions being made about things I didn’t discuss.

Someone brought up the many injuries that Dave Tate has experienced. This is normal in powerlifting at that level…and is something they accept as a possibility and reality to keep doing what they love.

A disfiguring injury in bodybuilding can END any further progress in that sport…PERIOD. That is why someone focused on building up their muscles as well as strength is more attentive to the risk of injury than someone who focuses on the lift itself and accepts whatever risks will allow them to do that movement.

My goal is to build up specific muscle groups, not to simply move a weight from point A to point B.

That means I do not want a fucking pec tear just so I can keep doing a barbell bench press for a competition. I would much rather move to dumbbells or machines so I still have my chest muscles 10 years from now rather than risk destroying what I’ve worked hard for all of these years.

For you to compare powerlifting with bodybuilding and not acknowledge that difference is yet another reason why experience trumps “theory”.

Some guys here have the experience. A smart person knows when to listen and learn.

Everyone else makes troll threads on bodybuilding forums…or argues against what I can count as at least 3 big lifters in this thread alone who all agree with each other.

Levrone powerlifted, Ronnie powerlifted, Johnnie powerlifts, White powerlifts, Franco powerlifted, I belive Corimier powerlifted etc. etc.

Whos saying anyways that bodybuilders should train like powerlifters? I figure people get injured more often powerlifting because the focus is on, singles, doubles, triples. Things bodybuilders often do not do.

To consider me “trolling,” well that’s a joke and I count only 2 big peoe with your stance, you and lewhitehurst…

[/quote]

Well, clearly you understand this way better than I do.

Why don’t you take the floor and educate the rest of us?

You’re up.

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[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
WestCoast7 wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
WestCoast7 wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
No I posted stats because of something prof X stated and I was just showing that I’ve been making progress and my stats are just indications because anyone around here for awhile knows the general size/strength I sit at.

You would be a fool to say that age is something I fall back on. Sorry but you’ll obviously be bigger than me if you’ve trained for 3-4 times as long as me lol.

I just don’t know why any debate Cant be civilized but instead turns to personal insult and to tell you the truth I’ll take a proffesionals opinion over yours. Would you like it if say Ronnie or Jay posted on this site, which neither of you have physiques comparable to and then completely disrespected your beliefs and opinions because you weren’t as big as them.

Any decent person would be more than happy to be friendly and be open to discussion rather han have there periferals on only taking one stance. I’ve agreed and disagreed to something you posted. Discuss why I’m wrong rather than your one sided opinion.

I have buds bigger and stronger than mr that would agree with my statements. Fucking rude and disgusting to disrespect someomes opinion, someone that takes lifting seriously for that matter yet is not advanced as some of the big boys and than feed them with bullshit because hey there’s only one way to do it and your wrong.

This is a bodybuilding site, not a place to dominate threads with child like arguments. Respect the people that are stronger and wiser, and learn from them.

Since when is nobody aloud to have an opinion and since when do you dictate what is or is not a childish argument.

When you decided to hijack a thread (however pointless of a thread it may be) and rant and complain about your thoughts, in addition to being served repeatedly by wiser, stronger members of this community. I’m sure you are strong, but pulling out stat lines in an argument is a glaring sign of insecurity, not to mention asking to be shown up.

If you have questions, comments, or concerns, why not start a thread of your own? I’m not taking sides. I would just prefer if people in this community stayed away from battles of insecurity, and focused their energy on “the intelligent and relentless pursuit of muscle”. Especially people like you who challenge much more respected members of this community.

thank you Dr. Phil but I’m a very secure individual.

How about you stop being a hypocrite then, and contributing more “useless” things, as well as listening to someone stronger and wiser, ie. me, because I did venture into your profile and saw your stats and they were nothing.

Not being rude just asking you to follow your own advices.

And the insecurity seeps through again, along with more failed attempts at asserting your dominance.

Anybody who writes, “as well as listening to someone stronger and wiser, ie. me, because I did venture into your profile and saw your stats and they were nothing” is definitely not comfortable with where they are at, or else they wouldn’t have to resort to such statements.

Focus on figuring yourself out before you try to start dishing out information to the rest of this community. Once you do that you might even be able to make a friend or two, and then you won’t have to resort to using gym mirrors to help you take pictures.[/quote]

Lol, again you don’t follow your own advice… “hey dude, I can say he is smaller than two guys, but when he says he is bigger than me, he’s the asshole”. No need for me to brag. I’m sorry the truth hurts and I’m sorry that I’ve forced you to discuss my insecurities
as the only defense for your lowsy physique.

Edit: I forgot to mention as well since you seem to read only what you want to. I posted my stats because I was justifying that I seem to be doing alright training primarily with free weights…not to brag.

It’s still is so funny to see how anyone that makes and arguement and states there case is asccused of being insecure when the guy on the opposing side has nothing relevant to say.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
Professor X wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
Ok I grasp what you are saying, but I still don’t find it valid that a spotter is the cause of “many” people ditching free weights. What do powerlifters do, move to machine bench until the day of their competition because they didn’t have a spot. Powerlifting probably has more participants than bodybuilding if not relatively close to the amount. That’s a pretty decent amount of people.

I’m not trying to make some huge debate just rather voiceing my opinion and try to discuss why it’s correct while steering clear of insult and invalid points.

I hope there are no hard feeling here because I’m not some prick but I don’t enjoy words being put into my mout and assumptions being made about things I didn’t discuss.

Someone brought up the many injuries that Dave Tate has experienced. This is normal in powerlifting at that level…and is something they accept as a possibility and reality to keep doing what they love.

A disfiguring injury in bodybuilding can END any further progress in that sport…PERIOD. That is why someone focused on building up their muscles as well as strength is more attentive to the risk of injury than someone who focuses on the lift itself and accepts whatever risks will allow them to do that movement.

My goal is to build up specific muscle groups, not to simply move a weight from point A to point B.

That means I do not want a fucking pec tear just so I can keep doing a barbell bench press for a competition. I would much rather move to dumbbells or machines so I still have my chest muscles 10 years from now rather than risk destroying what I’ve worked hard for all of these years.

For you to compare powerlifting with bodybuilding and not acknowledge that difference is yet another reason why experience trumps “theory”.

Some guys here have the experience. A smart person knows when to listen and learn.

Everyone else makes troll threads on bodybuilding forums…or argues against what I can count as at least 3 big lifters in this thread alone who all agree with each other.

Levrone powerlifted, Ronnie powerlifted, Johnnie powerlifts, White powerlifts, Franco powerlifted, I belive Corimier powerlifted etc. etc.

Whos saying anyways that bodybuilders should train like powerlifters? I figure people get injured more often powerlifting because the focus is on, singles, doubles, triples. Things bodybuilders often do not do.

To consider me “trolling,” well that’s a joke and I count only 2 big peoe with your stance, you and lewhitehurst…

Well, clearly you understand this way better than I do.

Why don’t you take the floor and educate the rest of us?

You’re up.[/quote]

No it’d only be nice if you actually admitted that my points have some validity and that yours do too. That more than one way works and that many people have gotten big and strong as proffesionally as well, through primarily free weights and some primarily machines.

So I guess all bodybuilding videos done with free weights and heavy free weights on chest and leg movements are for show like you mentioned before and I guess that all the books I’ve read and articles about pros are fake as well. I guess than we’ll never know how the pros train cause all the footage seems to be a lie…

Come on X let’s stop bickering and come to an agreement. I stated nothing crazy, just what I’ve observed.

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Austin ya you fucking kid, like myself, X, and lewhitehurst have been saying, you dont know anything. Go back to your silly movements until you on our fuckin level to deal with this shit.

Watching vidoes dont make you big. If you want to go far in this sport, and advance in this sport you HAVE to use machine or else you become DISFIGURED like a fuckin mr. potato head with the lips in the eye hole. Nobody likes that shit up on stage and neither do we.

Why don’ you just shut up and sit down and take the advice that us big guys like myself, X and thewhitehorse are dishing out and get on the school bus.

It’s time to get schooled.

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Austin Bicep, your English grammar and spelling SUCKS!!!

Are you at the Ultimate Fitness in Medford on your Avatar?

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[quote]ronaldo7 wrote:
Austin Bicep, your English grammar and spelling SUCKS!!!
[/quote]

who cares.

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[quote]JoabSonOfZeruiah wrote:
ronaldo7 wrote:
Austin Bicep, your English grammar and spelling SUCKS!!!

who cares.[/quote]

No one, what’s your point?

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[quote]ronaldo7 wrote:
Austin Bicep, your English grammar and spelling SUCKS!!!

Are you at the Ultimate Fitness in Medford on your Avatar?[/quote]

Typing on my iPhone. Haha. Yeah dude you train there?

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[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
ronaldo7 wrote:
Austin Bicep, your English grammar and spelling SUCKS!!!

Are you at the Ultimate Fitness in Medford on your Avatar?

Typing on my iPhone. Haha. Yeah dude you train there?[/quote]

Haha. I trained there two years ago for a few months, loved that gym. There used to be a few serious bodybuilders and power-lifters at the time.

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[quote]ronaldo7 wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
ronaldo7 wrote:
Austin Bicep, your English grammar and spelling SUCKS!!!

Are you at the Ultimate Fitness in Medford on your Avatar?

Typing on my iPhone. Haha. Yeah dude you train there?

Haha. I trained there two years ago for a few months, loved that gym. There used to be a few serious bodybuilders and power-lifters at the time.[/quote]

Quite a few jacked dudes and some serious equipment. Great gym. Where you training now?

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[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
ronaldo7 wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
ronaldo7 wrote:
Austin Bicep, your English grammar and spelling SUCKS!!!

Are you at the Ultimate Fitness in Medford on your Avatar?

Typing on my iPhone. Haha. Yeah dude you train there?

Haha. I trained there two years ago for a few months, loved that gym. There used to be a few serious bodybuilders and power-lifters at the time.

Quite a few jacked dudes and some serious equipment. Great gym. Where you training now?[/quote]

I’m do Olympic weightlifting so I train with my team and coach in Nassau county. I do squats and such at a little gym in Shirley called pure fitness.

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[quote]ronaldo7 wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
ronaldo7 wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
ronaldo7 wrote:
Austin Bicep, your English grammar and spelling SUCKS!!!

Are you at the Ultimate Fitness in Medford on your Avatar?

Typing on my iPhone. Haha. Yeah dude you train there?

Haha. I trained there two years ago for a few months, loved that gym. There used to be a few serious bodybuilders and power-lifters at the time.

Quite a few jacked dudes and some serious equipment. Great gym. Where you training now?

I’m do Olympic weightlifting so I train with my team and coach in Nassau county. I do squats and such at a little gym in Shirley called pure fitness.[/quote]

Word. What a small world lol. Too bad you don’t lift there anymore. Always nice knowing someone reliable at the gym for spots and such.

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[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
ronaldo7 wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
ronaldo7 wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
ronaldo7 wrote:
Austin Bicep, your English grammar and spelling SUCKS!!!

Are you at the Ultimate Fitness in Medford on your Avatar?

Typing on my iPhone. Haha. Yeah dude you train there?

Haha. I trained there two years ago for a few months, loved that gym. There used to be a few serious bodybuilders and power-lifters at the time.

Quite a few jacked dudes and some serious equipment. Great gym. Where you training now?

I’m do Olympic weightlifting so I train with my team and coach in Nassau county. I do squats and such at a little gym in S
hirley called pure fitness.

Word. What a small world lol. Too bad you don’t lift there anymore. Always nice knowing someone reliable at the gym for spots and such.

[/quote]

lol yea I know, I always wonder if people at my gym post on T-Nation and then they do something stupid and it immediately answers my question.

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[quote]ronaldo7 wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
ronaldo7 wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
ronaldo7 wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
ronaldo7 wrote:
Austin Bicep, your English grammar and spelling SUCKS!!!

Are you at the Ultimate Fitness in Medford on your Avatar?

Typing on my iPhone. Haha. Yeah dude you train there?

Haha. I trained there two years ago for a few months, loved that gym. There used to be a few serious bodybuilders and power-lifters at the time.

Quite a few jacked dudes and some serious equipment. Great gym. Where you training now?

I’m do Olympic weightlifting so I train with my team and coach in Nassau county. I do squats and such at a little gym in S
hirley called pure fitness.

Word. What a small world lol. Too bad you don’t lift there anymore. Always nice knowing someone reliable at the gym for spots and such.

lol yea I know, I always wonder if people at my gym post on T-Nation and then they do something stupid and it immediately answers my question.[/quote]

With half the crap (ok, 99.8% of the crap) that I read on this website, I actually figure most people in my gym have been to T-Nation.

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[quote]SSC wrote:
ronaldo7 wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
ronaldo7 wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
ronaldo7 wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
ronaldo7 wrote:
Austin Bicep, your English grammar and spelling SUCKS!!!

Are you at the Ultimate Fitness in Medford on your Avatar?

Typing on my iPhone. Haha. Yeah dude you train there?

Haha. I trained there two years ago for a few months, loved that gym. There used to be a few serious bodybuilders and power-lifters at the time.

Quite a few jacked dudes and some serious equipment. Great gym. Where you training now?

I’m do Olympic weightlifting so I train with my team and coach in Nassau county. I do squats and such at a little gym in S
hirley called pure fitness.

Word. What a small world lol. Too bad you don’t lift there anymore. Always nice knowing someone reliable at the gym for spots and such.

lol yea I know, I always wonder if people at my gym post on T-Nation and then they do something stupid and it immediately answers my question.

With half the crap (ok, 99.8% of the crap) that I read on this website, I actually figure most people in my gym have been to T-Nation.[/quote]

lolz.

It’s all love in this thread now. Just I stand by my point but shouldn’t have help to digress this conversation further in the wrong direction.

Lewhitehurst and X I respect your achievements. Your two very beastly guys. Much bigger and stronger than me, but eventually my point was to try to get you guys to respect others opinions. Hopefully we can move forward in a positive direction :).

Anyways stuntmanmike we still have some beef so you can escort yourself out of this thread and maybe pick up a weight for once in your life…haha

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Wow. I just read 3 pages of useless crap…

O well, passed the time at work.

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I gained a shit load of respect for Austin.

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These kinds of threads are retarded…

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While I guess this can be viewed as either a serious, or yet another BS thread (I know it started out in a humorous fashion), I’ll toss in my comments just so as I don’t feel left out :slight_smile:

(why you don’t look like a bodybuilder:)

-You worry more about what magical supplements the current top guys in the ads claim they are taking, and yet have no clue as to if you’re getting adequate protein and calories.

-You can spout off some of the latest ‘cutting edge’ training concepts word for word from Flex magazine, yet have no clue as to the science behind the purported theories in the first place, or even why they may or may not work for an individual.

-You refuse to stop doing a ‘sacred’ exercise after years and years of doing it even though you have not made any gains from it, and possibly even suffered injuries because of it.

-You have no concept of what all-out, gut busting-I may not get this last rep effort truly is.

-If an approach or training method works for someone but not for someone else, you chalk it up to doing it wrong.

-When another trainer looks better than you, it as always because of genetics or steroids, never hard work, consistency or intelligent application of training and nutritional methods.

(and now, 1 funny one…)
-You don’t train while wearing work boots, sunglasses and a string tank top.

S