[quote]twiceborn wrote:
[quote]RockmanX88 wrote:
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http://531year.blogspot.com/2012/04/final-post.html
He went from a 300ish squat/dl and 220bench to this in a year:
515 squat, 565 deadlift, 300 bench[/quote]
Good for him. Have you gotten those results? Did Wendler? Hell no.
Ok, I know this isn’t what guys on this board like to hear, but a 1400ish total isn’t that great. Those are newbie gains. If that’s what you’re happy with, alright, but when you get stomped at a local competition it’s not because other people are freaks it’s because you’re too intellectually lazy to figure shit out for yourselves.
Go back and take a look at the link. The kid used Smolov when 5/3/1 stopped working. That’s exactly my point. 5/3/1 will “work” but you’ll pleteau big time. What do you do then? Move on to teh Juggernautz?
Christ, do ANY of you know how to program without adopting “lifter x’s” routine? Do any of you know how to program without buying an EliteFTS product?
Let’s stop looking for outliers to “prove” something works and look around you. There are guys ON THIS THREAD defending 5/3/1 that haven’t made shit for progress on it. Also, no one can argue with the fact that Wendler himself never gained much of shit from his own program. That’s a fact.
It’s a place to start. It focuses on main lifts and is accessible.
Truth be told, I don’t think many people have the mental capacity to figure out Reactive Training, but that’s just about the best system out there right now. Hell, people have trouble figuring out Westside, so there you go.
You gained 400lbs on what exactly? I see that you’re like 280, have you broken 1400 yet? I’d wager that you are lifting about the same as I was as an 18 year old 220. I also gained more than you in a shorter time. Again, it was all newbie gains, not my program.
Sorry to hear about your nuts. How did you “battle” it anyway, longswords and maces? Sounds very heroic. Here, let me just concede victory to you and Lance Armstrong in any debate from here on out. I just can’t compete with a man willing to use the sympathy card.
Oh wait. You DO realize you’re talking to a guy who LIFTS MORE THAN YOU OR WENDLER, right? If you want to measure dick size on an internet forum, try not to be a snarky asshat to the guy who clawed his way to a 765 deadlift.
That’s the best part about this. You guys have never met Wendler yet you’ll defend his stolen ideas with all the fervor you can muster. You have no idea if the examples of success you’re holding up to were using a gram of tren a week. You have no idea if I’m an elite lifter out here giving my honest opinion based on 20 years of experience, you just assume that I’m wrong because it goes against your cultish devotion to a program.
You’re all too fucking LAZY to think for yourselves. Now I know why Jamie Lewis hates you twats.
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Take notes class. This is how you become a worthless cunt.