^^ yeah, I agree. There has to be some “brains” and not all “balls”…
I’ve had good luck with using 90% and or 93% my actual 1rm for singles. I had done them every other week. I like Jim’s idea of swithcing uop the “5” and “3” week and letting the 5 week be a mini delaod of sorts. Generally speaking, I can get 3 reps with 93% well after repping out the last sets this 90-93% is pretty tough. Some times I do reverse band press singles nothing crazy, maybe a light band. This in my opinion is perfect for the goal at hand- to get used to handling heavier weights and to really make the tri’s stronger while not beating up the chest too much cause I had just repped out the last set and probably will do some form of pressing for assistance work. For me a win-win…
The essence of what I’m saying is: the singles need to be heavy, who cares what percent they are. On the 531, 90% isn’t even a true 90%. They should just be based on how you feel that day. Sometimes you simply repeat your heaviest training weight and try to your technique. Bottom line is don’t worry about numbers or percents, just attack weights. Percents don’t take into account “life”.
One thing I know Wendler has said multiple times about 5/3/1 is, either do it,or dont, dont modify it or anything, do it how its written, or dont do it at all.
[quote]AmericanOutlaw13 wrote:
One thing I know Wendler has said multiple times about 5/3/1 is, either do it,or dont, dont modify it or anything, do it how its written, or dont do it at all.
His words, not mine[/quote]
yes, he did write that…and he also just “modified” his own program with the 5-3-1 reloaded. And allows changes all the time if you read his q/a over at EFS. You can do it 4 days a week, 3, 2 whatever…all that shit aint in the book… I’ve got the book BTW. The thing is is that 5-3-1 is in fact very adaptable. That’s the premise behind it.
It is true that if I were to “tweak” it to my liking and it not work it’s not Jims fault or 5.3.1 being stupid it’s on me. I think that’s the gist of what he meant when he wrote that.
[quote]Crow wrote:
On the 531, 90% isn’t even a true 90%. They should just be based on how you feel that day. .[/quote]
yep 5/3/1 90% is actually 81%, the “95%” week is really 85% of actual, And your right I do go off feel but I do like a ball park figure to shoot for so I start with 90% of actual 1rm and go from there. Some days it’s more, some it’s less…
[quote]Crow wrote:
Bottom line is don’t worry about numbers or percents, just attack weights. Percents don’t take into account “life”.[/quote]
Sure, I don’t ‘worry’ about it. But to be effective in handling weights close to your 1rm, you need to handle weights close to your 1rm every now and then. You’ll never squat 600# if you rep the shit out of 315 at least I won’t… It’s like the gym rats that rep out “315” on a leverage machine, then get f@wking stapled with 225 on a regular bench.
[quote]Crow wrote:
Bottom line is don’t worry about numbers or percents, just attack weights. Percents don’t take into account “life”.[/quote]
just looking for some guidance. maybe you’ve been doing this awhile, but i haven’t. if that’s actually you in your avatar, maybe you should spend more time attacking conditioning rather than “just attack weights.” just saying.
[quote]Crow wrote:
Bottom line is don’t worry about numbers or percents, just attack weights. Percents don’t take into account “life”.[/quote]
just looking for some guidance. maybe you’ve been doing this awhile, but i haven’t. if that’s actually you in your avatar, maybe you should spend more time attacking conditioning rather than “just attack weights.” just saying.[/quote]
Why? If his goal is to lift as much weight as possible, conditioning is not his primary goal. Having more weight increases his leverages. Maybe you care about your conditioning, his goal may be something else entirely.
[quote]Crow wrote:
Bottom line is don’t worry about numbers or percents, just attack weights. Percents don’t take into account “life”.[/quote]
just looking for some guidance. maybe you’ve been doing this awhile, but i haven’t. if that’s actually you in your avatar, maybe you should spend more time attacking conditioning rather than “just attack weights.” just saying.[/quote]
Yeah bud that is my picture. I was 267 then, pulling 600 for the first time. This morning I was 223 (thanks to high frequency training). I will be competing Saturday at 220. Do you compete? If not, shut the fuck up.
[quote]Crow wrote:
Bottom line is don’t worry about numbers or percents, just attack weights. Percents don’t take into account “life”.[/quote]
just looking for some guidance. maybe you’ve been doing this awhile, but i haven’t. if that’s actually you in your avatar, maybe you should spend more time attacking conditioning rather than “just attack weights.” just saying.[/quote]
Yeah bud that is my picture. I was 267 then, pulling 600 for the first time. This morning I was 223 (thanks to high frequency training). I will be competing Saturday at 220. Do you compete? If not, shut the fuck up.[/quote]
Are you all serious? Why are you so caught up on what the proper %, or rep range, or color of your feces! Just shut up and lift! Intensity is the only thing that truly matters. I’m sure Jim would tell you that also. Quit majoring in minor shit and go crush some weight.[/quote]
To be perfectly honest, if the percentages didn’t matter then Jim never would have written 5/3/1. He would just have said “lift heavy shit”. Why does he bother to have set percentages and reps for the weeks if it doesn’t matter? He even has a chart in the back of the book to determine percentages. We’re just looking for a clarification, it’s not like we’re asking to do curls on a bosu ball. If you don’t have anything constructive to say then just ignore the rest of us, take your own advice, and shut up and lift.
Are you all serious? Why are you so caught up on what the proper %, or rep range, or color of your feces! Just shut up and lift! Intensity is the only thing that truly matters. I’m sure Jim would tell you that also. Quit majoring in minor shit and go crush some weight.[/quote]
To be perfectly honest, if the percentages didn’t matter then Jim never would have written 5/3/1. He would just have said “lift heavy shit”. Why does he bother to have set percentages and reps for the weeks if it doesn’t matter? He even has a chart in the back of the book to determine percentages. We’re just looking for a clarification, it’s not like we’re asking to do curls on a bosu ball. If you don’t have anything constructive to say then just ignore the rest of us, take your own advice, and shut up and lift.[/quote]
I think you guys are all too sensitive. What I’m trying to say is, does it really matter if its 90%, 92%, 95%, 97%, whatever. After the work sets are done, I think some instinctual training needs to be done. Why be locked in a box and a slave to a percent. If the work set feels easy that day, make your singles heavier. If the set felt heavy, stay there are go lighter. This isn’t rocket science. The body really doesn’t know what percentage your using, it does know your exertion level and perceived intensity.
By the OP posting his question in an open thread I think answers like “lift what you feel like” are perfectly acceptable. If someone wanted Jim’s opinion they would just stick to the book or PM him directly since he uses this site. If a program fails because you add or subtract 10lbs from a single rep lift it sucks to begin with.
[quote]sufiandy wrote:
By the OP posting his question in an open thread I think answers like “lift what you feel like” are perfectly acceptable. If someone wanted Jim’s opinion they would just stick to the book or PM him directly since he uses this site. If a program fails because you add or subtract 10lbs from a single rep lift it sucks to begin with.[/quote]