Read the naked warrior.
150lbs
6 pull ups with additional 90lbs
i still cant do a one arm
i wish you the best of luck
[quote]FightingScott wrote:
Xen Nova wrote:
the gravatron thing your body position is all wrong… would be a better idea to use a jump stretch band because at least you can replicate your body positioning…
thick bar will improve your grip faster and with better transferance than a coc gripper. If coc grippers don’t help with deadlift why would they help w/ one arm chin?
unless you have outrageously strong weighted chinup (like 250lbs @ a bw of 160) you can’t overcome this mechanical aspect of the 1 arm chin…
Jump Strench Bands? Thick bars? COC Grippers? This guy isn’t going to blow over $100 on gear to help him do a 1-Arm Chin-up. If he already had access to all this equipment, he’d probably belong to a hardcore gym that would either
- Set up a Circa-Max, Band-Assisted, 1-Arm Chin training phase.
- Tell him his bet is stupid and that he should be more worried about his squat numbers.
The only people I see doing 1-Arm Chins are Gymnasts and Mountain Climbers. You know how they get strong enough to do them? They do a lot of chin-ups, slow negatives, and they get better at climbing or gymnastics. They don’t have a bunch of odd equipment to help them. Neither does anyone else.
And are you honestly saying that someone must pull 250lbs added to their 160lb frame in order to just do a 1-arm chin? Or that they need to pull 90lbs added to their frame? It would seem to me that if a 160lb person wants to do a 1-arm chin, they would need to do a weighted chin with about 160lbs of added weight. [/quote]
something told me i’d have to qualify that statement cause someone would misread it or start nitpicking…
for him to overcome any mechanical disadvantages i just threw out a number and said that he would need to pull a considerable amount over standard to be able to do a 1 arm chinup w/o the technique that is required.
i gave a formula earlier and yes its roughly the ability to pull yourself and weight that is equivalent to your bodyweight.
but even then you need technique
to overcome the technique/mechanical disadvantage you would need to be a LOT stronger.
gymnasts, trickers, rock climbers, olympic lifters, even champion bench pressers use the technique already (irradiation) and it takes a lot of getting used to…
also just like benching the 1 arm chinup is a VERY unique groove and its not something you can get used to do in a gravitron machine or in a lat pulldown machine. even weighted chinups aren’t the same.
Thus why i kept saying negatives and perhaps weighted negatives
coc gripper… i said no
bands… if you dont already have these you’re behind imo
thick bar… maxi/pussy/tampon pads are everywhere just grab one
his goal is “stupid” because of the time frame but there’s nothing stupid about a 1 arm chinup.
[quote]FightingScott wrote:
Sure, thick-bars are more demanding on the grip and may be better for getting athletes used to working with implements like hammers, shots, and stones but they don’t have much carryover to barbell grip strength.
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^you’re joking right?
yea, the people that ive seen that can do one arm pull ups have a ‘technique’ to it. they kinda squirm their way up.
like zen nova mentioned… negatives all the way. and that’ll be a bitch.
As Xen and Zeusnathan say, technique is key, and given the lack of time, Mahatma will depend on maximizing strength gains from finding the groove.
Negatives help to that end, but they also require significant recovery (weighted negatives especially). A few single negatives daily might not be a problem, but why not add sub-maximal isometric work, which causes considerably less fatigue, in positions critical to a successful pull? I found isos tremendously helpful in achieving the same goal.
As with any other training method, isos have drawbacks – a loss of elasticity, for example. But like the deadlift, the 1APU begins with the concentric, effectively omitting the contribution of the stretch-shortening cycle.
The concentric dominance of the movement indicates another reason not to focus too heavily on negatives. Sure, training negatives increases concentric strength as well, but not as quickly as it increases eccentric strength. Best to include isos and assisted concentrics along with the negatives.
Negatives are indeed great for building strength, but you must also mimic the biodynamics of the movement itself.
Think about how powerlifters train the deadlift.
One more thing:
Drop some weight if you can by cleaning up your diet and maybe doing some VERY light cardio (30-60 minute walks) a couple times a week.
[quote]Diana Bolann wrote:
I’ve only met one person that could train their way to the one-arm chin, yet I have known many who could just do it because they were freaks. Unfortunately it is largely genetic. [/quote]
Nah, not true. I’m definitley not a genetic freak (lol, this brings back memories of pointless and exceptionally funny threads), but managed to do one-arm pullup with good motivation and helpful training.
From my experience, the best way to achieve it is via one-arm negatives. Weighted pullups are great, but really can’t help you this much for this specific feat. My weight is 150 lbs, and now my 1RM at weighted pullups is around 120 lbs. At this moment I can’t do one-arm pullup. But when I did it the first time, my 1RM at weighted pullups was even lower - maybe around 105 lbs.
It’s different neuromuscular pattern when doing one-arm and regular pullup, so try doing unilateral variations - one arm + one finger, one arm + all the body english you can manage, etc.
Prepare for elbow pain, shoulder pain, forearm splints. Treat your arm with some ice after heavy session.
Also, for me, grip was a big part of the problem. You must have enough strength to hang on one arm for at least 30 seconds, because otherwise a lot of your efforts will be concentrated on recruiting the forearm muscles and it’s likely that you won’t be able to use your maximum strength of the muscles involved in the actual movement.
I don’t know if you can manage to do it in 3 months, but you know what they say:
“If you think you can - you’re right. And if you think you can’t - you’re right.”
It takes about a years to learn, during the whole training I never saw ONE weighted pull-up. It’s just doesn’t matter.
You’re on wrong path bro.
He’s jumping all fcking day long.
hey, ive found something to do with spare time! That’s some really impressive stuff, jumps and gymnastics might have to take some priority for me, damn!
Hello all, thanks for the assistance. I’m making progress from my last post, and can pull myself up to about 90 degrees. From 120 degrees start I can get my chin to touch the bar
It’s doing both at the same time that I can’t do yet.
I was wondering which was the easiest hand angle to pull myself up with. Say you do a pullup, looking up at your hand you’d see your palm at 6 o’clock. A chin up would have your palms at 12 o’clock. I’ve found it easiest with my palms at 9 o’clock. Is there any other angle I should try to make the OAP a little easier? The stipulation of the bet was only to pull myself up with one arm so the positioning of the hand doesn’t matter.
Also, yes I need to lose a little weight. I’m not sure how much fat there is to drop, as I estimate that I’m around 10%bf, but my diet is crap, I should sort that out.
One more thing. Is there any technique to kicking my legs up to get some momentum? Like in this video:
I love the comments. ‘Your using momentum from legs, not even impressive.’
the kicking one IS unimpressive.
this is proper form-
That said if your palm is facing you its a chinup, if palm is facing away from you its a pullup. Doesn’t really matter which one you can do if you can do them, you’ll end up “hammer fist” style at the top anyway.
[quote]Mahatma wrote:
One more thing. Is there any technique to kicking my legs up to get some momentum? Like in this video:
I love the comments. ‘Your using momentum from legs, not even impressive.’ [/quote]
its not so much momentum, but that he is swinging his body into a horizontal position before initiating the pull. this way the start of the movement is more similar to a horizontal rowing exercise like a one are DB row. there is gonna be some momentum, but the biggest benefit of the leg swing is getting his body into a more advantageous position.
less impressive, yes, but technically you wouldn’t be breaking the bet.
This guy explains it better than I can: Rick Roll - YouTube
[quote]evansmi wrote:
Mahatma wrote:
One more thing. Is there any technique to kicking my legs up to get some momentum? Like in this video:
I love the comments. ‘Your using momentum from legs, not even impressive.’
its not so much momentum, but that he is swinging his body into a horizontal position before initiating the pull. this way the start of the movement is more similar to a horizontal rowing exercise like a one are DB row. there is gonna be some momentum, but the biggest benefit of the leg swing is getting his body into a more advantageous position.
less impressive, yes, but technically you wouldn’t be breaking the bet.
This guy explains it better than I can: Rick Roll - YouTube
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Haha, you fucker, you got me
rofl.
listen this is what you do…
most gymnasts weigh only 130max and that HELPS ALLOT
for most of the people on here that are 170+ i suggest you do this
do pullups,chinups,mix gripped pullups, sternum pullups…any, and mix it up all the time
this will help get your regular pullups and chins to 30.
once you are able to do 30 pullups, basically make them almost perfect, the end can be staggering…Then you gotta add weight, start with an extra 25lbs added weight and try to bring your pullups to 10-15 if you can do that, once you get it to 25 and can do 10-15, then add more weight…go to 35, then 45.
Once you can do 10-15 reps with an extra 45lb weight attatched to you, start doing alternate comedowns…try to get 20 reps in, thats 10 each arm alternating comedowns…eventuelly add weight to your weighted pullups, make the max 60 extra lbs, and add about 1-5lbs to your alternating comedowns after regular onces become easy…in 6 months you should be doing one arm chins, or pullups
so thats basically this…
get your max pullups/chin ups to 30 reps
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start adding weight,25,35,45…do 10-15 reps each
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once you can do 10-15 reps with 45 extra lbs, do alternating comedowns
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continue to add weight to your weighted pullups
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once at a strong level with alternating comedowns add extra weight1-5lbs, holding on to the weight with the other hand…
you should be doing one arm chins/pullups in no time…
take it SLOW, the most important thing is to not tax yourself…the moment you hear too much popping or feel pain inthe elbows STOP< and take a break…go back to just doing pullups normally or decrease reps, elbow tendonts SUCK ASS AND CAN DELAY YOUR TRAINING BY MONTHS>…
this guy knows his shit!!!
dont do curls, yet…take this time to work on your pullups (trust me you wont need to do curls or any direct by exercise)
you WILL NOT GET A ONE ARM PULLUP IN 3 MONTHS!!!
do you know how much strength it take to do a one arm pullup…there is only 1 person in 100,000 thousand that has the strength to do it…statistically speaking…so unless you a a genetic freak and have increadible healing abilities…3 months is out of your reach, by that time you should be at about 30 pullups, and doing pullups with an extra 25-35lbs…
oh and let me just say that you can expect you max reps for pullups to be well over 45 if you can do 10-15 with an extra 50lbs to your balls…
good luck bro!!!